New Motherboard, New XP install?

[Guest]

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I want to install a new CPU, M\B & Graphics Card.
My Hard Drive has 3 partitions with Win XP Pro already installed using NTFS;

C:\ Operating System
D:\ Programs
E:\ Data

After a lot of faffing about i've just found out that a new M\B means a new
XP install; after all the tweaking, updates, plugins and hours just getting
the thing right this is a bit disheartening.

How do i minimize the palaver?

Do i have to reformat the whole drive? And reinstall all Programs? Do I
have to re-install SP 1 and then SP2? I also understand that re-activating
XP's a problem too. What other problems do i have to watch out for?

I'd appreciate any advice anyone has, to cut down the trial by error
approach all this means for me.

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Nick

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Changing a Motherboard or Moving a Hard Drive with XP Installed
http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/moving_xp.html

How to Perform a Windows XP Repair Install
http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/XPrepairinstall.htm

[Courtesy of MS-MVP Michael Stevens]

--
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Microsoft MVP
Windows XP - Shell/User

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http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/protect/default.aspx

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"TrickTrash" wrote:

| I want to install a new CPU, M\B & Graphics Card.
| My Hard Drive has 3 partitions with Win XP Pro already installed using NTFS;
|
| C:\ Operating System
| D:\ Programs
| E:\ Data
|
| After a lot of faffing about i've just found out that a new M\B means a new
| XP install; after all the tweaking, updates, plugins and hours just getting
| the thing right this is a bit disheartening.
|
| How do i minimize the palaver?
|
| Do i have to reformat the whole drive? And reinstall all Programs? Do I
| have to re-install SP 1 and then SP2? I also understand that re-activating
| XP's a problem too. What other problems do i have to watch out for?
|
| I'd appreciate any advice anyone has, to cut down the trial by error
| approach all this means for me.
|
| --
| Nick

 

[papa]

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If it was me, I would first remove all of the hard drive partitions, create
a single new partition using the entire hard drive, and format as NTFS. IMHO
creating multiple partitions is unnecessary because of the Folders function,
which allows for all the separation/organization needed. But you may have
very legitimate reasons for multiple partitions. As I said, IMHO.

Then do a clean install of the operating system.

Immediately after that I would use the CD disk that came with the new
motherboard to install any drivers on that CD. Better yet, I would go to the
motherboard website and download the latest drivers and see if there is an
updated BIOS available. If you do decide to flash your BIOS, make sure you
do it correctly or your computer could become a doorstop. Then go into
Device Manager to make sure all of your devices are installed correctly. If
there are any yellow exclamation marks, you have some driver issues that
need to be resolved.

After that I would install SP2, followed by going to the Microsoft Windows
Update webpage to install any critical updates, windows update, and hardware
updates. By the way, if you do not have SP2 on a CD disk, ask Microsoft to
mail you one. They are free, and the postage is free as well. It is not
necessary to install SP1 because SP2 covers both.

Then I would reinstall my office software, etc., and restore other files and
data that I had backed up before the hardware change.

If you have your original Windows XP CD, and the Product Key that goes with
it, reactivating Windows will not be a problem. Just follow the Activate Now
procedure.

Regards.

 

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Thank's for the replies, i appreciate your pointers.
Unfortunately, my ambitions are still far in advance of my knowledge just
yet & i still have a lot to absorb.

I've been reading up all the articles your links pointed me to and one thing
i came across is this: http://www.tweakxp.com/tweak2068.aspx which suggests
replacing the M\B specific IDE ATA/ATAPI Controller with a Standard one,
swap the M\B's & boot into Safe Mode where you install the new M\B specific
drivers. Anyone have any thoughts? Yes, it does sound too painless to be
true, but that's what i want: I want what i want without hard work!

I should also point out that i put this system together myself & = Upgraded
= from Win 98 SE. Does that make a difference?

Also I've no burner or other way of storing data other than the 1 HDD and
the different partitions on it, keeping all my data & downloads safe from
any messing i have to do with the O\S or Progs.

Papa! thank's for the specific answers - it helps.

This whole thing still fills me with dread. Oh well, groping -slightly
less- blindly onwards

TrickTrash

"Papa" <bikingis@my.fun> wrote in message
news:u2p6XfI1EHA.1524@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> If it was me, I would first remove all of the hard drive partitions,
> create a single new partition using the entire hard drive, and format as
> NTFS. IMHO creating multiple partitions is unnecessary because of the
> Folders function, which allows for all the separation/organization needed.
> But you may have very legitimate reasons for multiple partitions. As I
> said, IMHO.
>
> Then do a clean install of the operating system.
>
> Immediately after that I would use the CD disk that came with the new
> motherboard to install any drivers on that CD. Better yet, I would go to
> the motherboard website and download the latest drivers and see if there
> is an updated BIOS available. If you do decide to flash your BIOS, make
> sure you do it correctly or your computer could become a doorstop. Then go
> into Device Manager to make sure all of your devices are installed
> correctly. If there are any yellow exclamation marks, you have some driver
> issues that need to be resolved.
>
> After that I would install SP2, followed by going to the Microsoft Windows
> Update webpage to install any critical updates, windows update, and
> hardware updates. By the way, if you do not have SP2 on a CD disk, ask
> Microsoft to mail you one. They are free, and the postage is free as well.
> It is not necessary to install SP1 because SP2 covers both.
>
> Then I would reinstall my office software, etc., and restore other files
> and data that I had backed up before the hardware change.
>
> If you have your original Windows XP CD, and the Product Key that goes
> with it, reactivating Windows will not be a problem. Just follow the
> Activate Now procedure.
>
> Regards.
>

 

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On 28/11/2004 TrickTrash wrote:

> Thank's for the replies, i appreciate your pointers.
> Unfortunately, my ambitions are still far in advance of my knowledge
> just yet & i still have a lot to absorb.
>

[snipped]

> This whole thing still fills me with dread. Oh well, groping
> -slightly less- blindly onwards
>
> TrickTrash

Treat it as an adventure!

I really think you would be much better off doing a clean install,
especially as you have upgraded from W98, you'll end up with a much
more stable and responsive PC.

You've got three partitions so you can backup existing data to BOTH
those partitions giving you two backups, if you know anybody with an
external HD that would plug into your USB port you could borrow that
for a day or two to give you a backup on a physically separate drive -
don't forget to save your Outlook mail file, your Windows address book
and your 'Favorites'.

The process set out by 'Papa' is neat - whatever you do DON'T connect
to the Internet after the re-install until after you have a working
firewall, not even 'just for a couple of minutes', get all your updated
drivers now before you re-install.

I prefer separate drives/partitions for the OS and data, rather than
just one big partition as suggested by 'Papa', but as he says we are
all different and what suits one person may not suit another.

I keep absolutely no data on my 'C' drive, I have a physically separate
drive for data (and it's backed up to two different places most days).
That means that at any time I can I can boot to the XP CD, re-install
and I can guarantee my data is intact. Only you can decide what is
right for you.

In 99% of cases XP just installs, sit and watch it, answer the
questions it asks as you go through the install and in a couple of
hours you will be up and running with a new, faster and stable PC.

When you are ready you should think about getting an external HD for
backing up your data, it's quick and easy to do and you'll sleep better
at night

--
Jeff Gaines Damerham Hampshire UK

 

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Jeff

Thanks for advice; and i think i will be doing a proper reinstall, once i
bite the bullet.

Do i then have to reinstall all the programs and plugins etc in my D:\ drive
in order for them to be properly registered with the O\S?

Adventure? It's the thought of making a basic mistake which cascades into a
total balls up that i'm worried about! I've learnt more this way then any
other but it has my nerves shot.

yours

TrickTrash

"Jeff Gaines" <whitedragon101@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:xn0dqaqof3woi1004@news.individual.net...
> On 28/11/2004 TrickTrash wrote:
>
>> Thank's for the replies, i appreciate your pointers.
>> Unfortunately, my ambitions are still far in advance of my knowledge
>> just yet & i still have a lot to absorb.
>>
>
> [snipped]
>
>> This whole thing still fills me with dread. Oh well, groping
>> -slightly less- blindly onwards
>>
>> TrickTrash
>
> Treat it as an adventure!
>
> I really think you would be much better off doing a clean install,
> especially as you have upgraded from W98, you'll end up with a much
> more stable and responsive PC.
>
> You've got three partitions so you can backup existing data to BOTH
> those partitions giving you two backups, if you know anybody with an
> external HD that would plug into your USB port you could borrow that
> for a day or two to give you a backup on a physically separate drive -
> don't forget to save your Outlook mail file, your Windows address book
> and your 'Favorites'.
>
> The process set out by 'Papa' is neat - whatever you do DON'T connect
> to the Internet after the re-install until after you have a working
> firewall, not even 'just for a couple of minutes', get all your updated
> drivers now before you re-install.
>
> I prefer separate drives/partitions for the OS and data, rather than
> just one big partition as suggested by 'Papa', but as he says we are
> all different and what suits one person may not suit another.
>
> I keep absolutely no data on my 'C' drive, I have a physically separate
> drive for data (and it's backed up to two different places most days).
> That means that at any time I can I can boot to the XP CD, re-install
> and I can guarantee my data is intact. Only you can decide what is
> right for you.
>
> In 99% of cases XP just installs, sit and watch it, answer the
> questions it asks as you go through the install and in a couple of
> hours you will be up and running with a new, faster and stable PC.
>
> When you are ready you should think about getting an external HD for
> backing up your data, it's quick and easy to do and you'll sleep better
> at night
>
> --
> Jeff Gaines Damerham Hampshire UK

 

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A reinstall will just update the OS, installed programs and
settings will remain as is. After a repair install, you
will need to run Windows Update.
If you have already installed SP2 and your XP CD is a
straight version, you may need to create a slipstreamed CD
with SP2.


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But government sees it as an obstacle to be overcome.


"TrickTrash" <guardclone-news@removethisyahoo.co.uk> wrote
in message news:ePUuWNW1EHA.3408@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
| Jeff
|
| Thanks for advice; and i think i will be doing a proper
reinstall, once i
| bite the bullet.
|
| Do i then have to reinstall all the programs and plugins
etc in my D:\ drive
| in order for them to be properly registered with the O\S?
|
| Adventure? It's the thought of making a basic mistake
which cascades into a
| total balls up that i'm worried about! I've learnt more
this way then any
| other but it has my nerves shot.
|
| yours
|
| TrickTrash
|
| "Jeff Gaines" <whitedragon101@hotmail.com> wrote in
message
| news:xn0dqaqof3woi1004@news.individual.net...
| > On 28/11/2004 TrickTrash wrote:
| >
| >> Thank's for the replies, i appreciate your pointers.
| >> Unfortunately, my ambitions are still far in advance of
my knowledge
| >> just yet & i still have a lot to absorb.
| >>
| >
| > [snipped]
| >
| >> This whole thing still fills me with dread. Oh well,
groping
| >> -slightly less- blindly onwards
| >>
| >> TrickTrash
| >
| > Treat it as an adventure!
| >
| > I really think you would be much better off doing a
clean install,
| > especially as you have upgraded from W98, you'll end up
with a much
| > more stable and responsive PC.
| >
| > You've got three partitions so you can backup existing
data to BOTH
| > those partitions giving you two backups, if you know
anybody with an
| > external HD that would plug into your USB port you could
borrow that
| > for a day or two to give you a backup on a physically
separate drive -
| > don't forget to save your Outlook mail file, your
Windows address book
| > and your 'Favorites'.
| >
| > The process set out by 'Papa' is neat - whatever you do
DON'T connect
| > to the Internet after the re-install until after you
have a working
| > firewall, not even 'just for a couple of minutes', get
all your updated
| > drivers now before you re-install.
| >
| > I prefer separate drives/partitions for the OS and data,
rather than
| > just one big partition as suggested by 'Papa', but as he
says we are
| > all different and what suits one person may not suit
another.
| >
| > I keep absolutely no data on my 'C' drive, I have a
physically separate
| > drive for data (and it's backed up to two different
places most days).
| > That means that at any time I can I can boot to the XP
CD, re-install
| > and I can guarantee my data is intact. Only you can
decide what is
| > right for you.
| >
| > In 99% of cases XP just installs, sit and watch it,
answer the
| > questions it asks as you go through the install and in a
couple of
| > hours you will be up and running with a new, faster and
stable PC.
| >
| > When you are ready you should think about getting an
external HD for
| > backing up your data, it's quick and easy to do and
you'll sleep better
| > at night
| >
| > --
| > Jeff Gaines Damerham Hampshire UK
|
|

 

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On Sun, 28 Nov 2004 16:00:07 -0000, TrickTrash wrote:

> Do i then have to reinstall all the programs and plugins etc in my D:\ drive
> in order for them to be properly registered with the O\S?

If you do a repair install and it completes with no issues, there is no
need to reinstall all programs, etc:
http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/XPrepairinstall.htm

If you do a clean install - you'll need to reinstall the extras:
http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/cleanxpinstall.html

In both cases, you'll need to re-apply updates for Windows and possibly
some Windows components (Media Player, Messenger, etc). Suggestion:
Download the complete SP2 installation beforehand. Install that after XP is
up and running. Then, with a firewall engaged, go online and obtain the
small number of critical updates that have been released since SP2's
release.

Technet download for SP2 (labeled "network install" but can be applied to a
standalone computer):
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=049C9DBE-3B8E-4F30-8245-9E368D3CDB5A&displaylang=en

Or you can order the CD:
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/downloads/updates/sp2/cdorder/en_us/default810.mspx

At this point, you may have a driver or two that needs updating and can
take care of those on a one by one basis.

--
Sharon F
MS-MVP ~ Windows Shell/User

 

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On 28/11/2004 TrickTrash wrote:

> Jeff
>
> Thanks for advice; and i think i will be doing a proper reinstall,
> once i bite the bullet.
>
> Do i then have to reinstall all the programs and plugins etc in my
> D:\ drive in order for them to be properly registered with the O\S?
>
> Adventure? It's the thought of making a basic mistake which cascades
> into a total balls up that i'm worried about! I've learnt more this
> way then any other but it has my nerves shot.
>
> yours
>
> TrickTrash

Yes, after a full re-install of XP you will also have to re-install
your apps, You don't have to re-install them all at once, put them on
as you need them.

The up side is you will have completely lost all traces of any trial
apps you may have installed in the past and no longer use.

As long as your data is backed up you can have as many attempts at
installing as you like. The PC is only a storage device for data at the
end of the day, everything else can be installed from the original CD's.

You might become addicted, I re-install every couple of months as a
matter of course.

--
Jeff Gaines Damerham Hampshire UK

 

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Thanks to all for your advice; I've a much clearer picture of what to do
and -almost now- the courage to do it

yours

TrickTrash

"Jeff Gaines" <whitedragon101@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:xn0dqb3b8fqkmn001@news.individual.net...
> On 28/11/2004 TrickTrash wrote:
>
>> Jeff
>>
>> Thanks for advice; and i think i will be doing a proper reinstall,
>> once i bite the bullet.
>>
>> Do i then have to reinstall all the programs and plugins etc in my
>> D:\ drive in order for them to be properly registered with the O\S?
>>
>> Adventure? It's the thought of making a basic mistake which cascades
>> into a total balls up that i'm worried about! I've learnt more this
>> way then any other but it has my nerves shot.
>>
>> yours
>>
>> TrickTrash
>
> Yes, after a full re-install of XP you will also have to re-install
> your apps, You don't have to re-install them all at once, put them on
> as you need them.
>
> The up side is you will have completely lost all traces of any trial
> apps you may have installed in the past and no longer use.
>
> As long as your data is backed up you can have as many attempts at
> installing as you like. The PC is only a storage device for data at the
> end of the day, everything else can be installed from the original CD's.
>
> You might become addicted, I re-install every couple of months as a
> matter of course.
>
> --
> Jeff Gaines Damerham Hampshire UK

 

[Guest]

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I tried out that tip which suggested swapping the M\B specific IDE
controller for a standard one, Swap the M\B, boot into safe mode & install
the new M\B specific drivers.

I've only been running it for 24 hours so far, but I've been putting it
through it's paces -all that sexy new gear; how could you not!

So far it's been stable & completely painless.

The whole process was utterly painless and -so far- I haven't been told I
need to redo activation. I still have enough 'votes' but I'm not too clear
on how these tot up.

I've got some other unrelated issues, so I will be doing a clean install,
but I thought I'd try this as it sounded so easy.

Good luck & thank's for the help

TrickTrash

"TrickTrash" <guardclone-news@removethisyahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:epKyLWb1EHA.2568@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> Thanks to all for your advice; I've a much clearer picture of what to do
> and -almost now- the courage to do it
>
> yours
>
> TrickTrash
>
> "Jeff Gaines" <whitedragon101@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:xn0dqb3b8fqkmn001@news.individual.net...
>> On 28/11/2004 TrickTrash wrote:
>>
>>> Jeff
>>>
>>> Thanks for advice; and i think i will be doing a proper reinstall,
>>> once i bite the bullet.
>>>
>>> Do i then have to reinstall all the programs and plugins etc in my
>>> D:\ drive in order for them to be properly registered with the O\S?
>>>
>>> Adventure? It's the thought of making a basic mistake which cascades
>>> into a total balls up that i'm worried about! I've learnt more this
>>> way then any other but it has my nerves shot.
>>>
>>> yours
>>>
>>> TrickTrash
>>
>> Yes, after a full re-install of XP you will also have to re-install
>> your apps, You don't have to re-install them all at once, put them on
>> as you need them.
>>
>> The up side is you will have completely lost all traces of any trial
>> apps you may have installed in the past and no longer use.
>>
>> As long as your data is backed up you can have as many attempts at
>> installing as you like. The PC is only a storage device for data at the
>> end of the day, everything else can be installed from the original CD's.
>>
>> You might become addicted, I re-install every couple of months as a
>> matter of course.
>>
>> --
>> Jeff Gaines Damerham Hampshire UK
>
>