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EA Responds to Spore DRM, Faces Lawsuit

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Article by Devin Connors

EA has responded to the backlash against Spore and its SecuROM DRM by increasing the number of activations allowed for the title. But now EA faces a lawsuit on behalf of angry gamers.

http://www.tomsgames.com/us/2008/0 [...] m_lawsuit/

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They've completely missed the point by increasing the number of activations. But it's probably on purpose, it's an old political trick adapted for DRM;

1. Introduce totally insane DRM restrictions
2. Wait for the inevitable consumer backlash
3. Loosen the restrictions and make it look like you're giving in to consumer demand, angry consumers think they won
4. Consumers are left with DRM they never would have accepted had you not done steps 1-3

They did the same thing with Mass Effect.

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Reply to copasetic

Good to hear that they are responding to the pressure and viewing the game as a success.

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Reply to purplerat

This is basically the same timeline/plan that 2K followed with BioShock. I'd expect that at some point in the spring, EA will make a big announcement about how it has dropped the activation limit completely for Spore, just like 2K did with BioShock.

Of course, this doesn't really help matters for the people that object to SecuROM because the DRM software will still be on the Spore game disc. Thus, you'll still have SecuROM on your PC, clogging up your system with root kit-like technology.

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Off-topic, Rob, I was wondering if you guys could use the PC as the review platform on your reviews of multi-platform games. I'd like to read your opinions on recent games, however every time I open a review I see that it's been reviewed on an Xbox 360 and I almost immediately disregard that article.

I don't mind you guys doing console reviews, but seeing as this is a PC-centric website, one would think that whenever it's possible you'd be doing PC game reviews, instead of choosing the dreaded thumbsticks.

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Reply to emp

I honestly think they lie and try and sell the consumer that most of us are not bothered by secure 7. I beg to differ and will not purchase another game with this system that limits my playtime with a game. I go back to my games every couple years and being a hardcore pc gamer..my hardware changes often. This limit to 3 or 5 installs is bs for a product I bought, own and should be able to use as often as I like. I can buy a book and if EA had it's way ...only read it through 5 times. No way..No how..No buy.!

Reply to Barzenak

robwright wrote :

This is basically the same timeline/plan that 2K followed with BioShock. I'd expect that at some point in the spring, EA will make a big announcement about how it has dropped the activation limit completely for Spore, just like 2K did with BioShock.

Of course, this doesn't really help matters for the people that object to SecuROM because the DRM software will still be on the Spore game disc. Thus, you'll still have SecuROM on your PC, clogging up your system with root kit-like technology.




Exactly to the point; people crying about DRM and then asking for more activations or less limits/whatever is an absolutely baked-out way of thinking, for exactly the reason you stated.

I think there is a huge misconception about what/how DRM works and why/why not to be worried about it; to say the least if anyone was concerned about DRM, then they shouldn't even be THINKING about installing a DRM-enforced game today, tomorrow, next week, or next year for that matter because they will always be stuck with the DRM whether they like it or not, and whether its activation is patched out or not.

Reply to ovaltineplease

It is absurd to resist DRM completely. I would love to see the concept disappear entirely but I don't think I will likely see that happen any time soon.

I am willing to accomodate some DRM limitations, but limited activations are a headache that I am not willing to subject myself to. 3 or 5 makes no difference to me. If the activations were renewed every 2 months or so, I would accept that and I don't see why that is unreasonable. It would effectively curtail piracy while giving a reasonable number or reinstalls for upgrades and troubleshooting.

Reply to infornography42
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well... u know, people pay alot to stop virus and spy get into their system. that why norton make so much $$$. its easy stop virus get into your system if you careful, but its extremely hard to clear em out once they do. not one anti virus program can clean em all out, and your system may go down for days.
by that reason, why would you want to put spyware into your system?? to just play games?? the game that you pay for?? does EA pay any damage due to DRM??

spyware aside, do you trust EA enuff to call them once install limit is reach?? i'm lazy guy, there no way i would spend hrs in customer support listen to their music. in my eye "case by case" meaningless, because that mean there no standard policy how they give you more installation.

there alot of title i want to buy from EA. Civ, SIM, RA3 etc.. but guess last game i buy from EA would be warhamma online (no DRM). i dont think downloading is right thing to do, but last thing i can do is vote with my $$$ and EA aren't getting them.

Reply to EVILNOD
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Frank Gibeau implied earlier that anyone who complains about SecureROM "wants to post or transfer thousands of copies of the game on the Internet".

Nevermind that SecureROM's by the same people who brought you XCP, the system that even got the FTC involved as well as multiple lawsuits after recalls by Sony.

I don't think he belongs in the software industry, let alone the gaming industry.
EA hasn't cared about customers since Madden 2004 sold well.

Unless Spore's rereleased without the crapware, he can keep it as well as any other titles.

Reply to jalek

I love the "Misunderstanding" part. That has to be the understatement of the year! This EA guy is the equivalent of the Iraqi Information Minister, when it comes to perception versus reality!

Reply to raymacfla
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Just wondering...

What would happen if i Install the Game into a Virtual Machine Image and create a backup of that Image. And then everytime i want to "reinstall" that game, i just copy the backup and have a "Fresh" install. Will it work?

And then anytime i want to sell that game, i just include that Image so the next owner can "reinstall" how many time he/she wishes!

i know piracy sucks, but crazy DRM is not the answer!

Reply to arlandi

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What would happen if i Install the Game into a Virtual Machine Image and create a backup of that Image.


I tried installing on my virtual machine and the game wouldn't run due to the graphics card not being DX compliant. At least with all my virtual machines a generic video driver is used regardless of the actuall video card you are using. You may be able to get around that but seriously if that's the lengths you'd have to go to in order to pirate a game then I think piracy would be seriously slowed.

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Reply to purplerat
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i think there are several vm that can use the real graphic card hardware instead of the usual generic video driver. so theoretically, you should get full speed.

Reply to arlandi

If the VM uses the actual GPU, then I would guess it probably uses the entire real hardware profile rather than a generic one. In that case the game would detect it as a new system and stop working. Once again maybe there is a work around to this but if piracy were reduced to having to use a different VM for each game I think that alone would stop alot of piracy.

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