Xbox 360 Elite or PS3 , which to buy?

I dunno. I got an Elite a few weeks ago and really like it.

I'd probably really like a PS3 if I got one of those too.

List all the games you want to play for each console (current & in the pipeline).

Use the list to decide which is better for you.

Why bother with the xbox 360 elite? Get a 60GB premium and use the extra cash to buy some extra games. Premium has a HDMI port nowadays as well, all the elite has is blackness and a bigger HDD.

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Best,

3Ball

Hardware wise the PS3 is the most powerful, but as jaguarskx says - it's the games that matter, just ask Nintendo  

I have a PS3, soley for the Gran Turismo series - if GT didn't exist I wouldn't even have a console.

Kyz

360:

Advantages:
Large game library
Better user interface

Disadvantages:
Pay for internet service
History of hardware defects (Red Ring of Death, DVD drive dieing)
Few Xbox titles run

PS3;
Advantages:
Runs smoother than the 360 (I have both, the PS3 runs smoother, and its not even close)
Generally sharper grapihcs (varies by game)
PS2 support (the "new" 80GB and 40GB has 0 PS2 support, the older model supports 80% of all PS2 games, and older models, like the 60GB, support ALL PS2 games. Ask before you buy, just to make sure).

Disadvantages:
Smaller game library
User interface not as streamlined

ps3 i highly recommend it

I have both and i'd have to say i'd recommend the 360 over the ps3. This is mainly due to the fact that Live is a much better service than the PSN and definetly worth paying for and the fact that the 360 has a much larger back catalog of games to choose from.

No reason to ever buy a 360 elite anymore, 60gb hdd on the premium rather than 120gb is fine as games dont install anyway.

Both have HDMI ports.

The PS3 is NOT faster than the 360 however - it has only 256mb RAM to the 360's 512mb, which developers have complained about in the past, and uses a G70 GPU - basically a 7800GTX - compared to a modified x1950XTX in the 360.

The Xbox 360 GPU is undoubtably faster, and I'm pretty much an nVidia fanboy  

CPU wise the PS3 is faster (although exotic and harder to develop for), but this is not what makes for pretty games.

Ah, excellent question, one that presents a true dilemma.

The Xbox 360 Elite was supposed to feature a revamped hardware config that would help prevent the red ring of death. In my personal experience, this has not been the case (I just got my elite back from the MS repair center). Still, the game library for the 360 is FAR superior to the other competing consoles offer. So if you're looking for stronger games, then the 360 it is. Just be warned that you run a very high risk of hardware failure, which is covered by the extended warranty but is still a major inconvenience.

As for the PS3, I've never had an issue with the system in terms of hardware or general performance. The system is rock solid, the Blu-ray player is a nice addition, and the PS Network (finally) is an excellent draw since it's completely free, unlike Xbox Live. But the game library is weak. At this point, only Drake's Fortune, Ratchet & Clank, and MGS 4 have really and truly stood out for me. So if you're more concerned about high quality hardware and an HD disc player, then the PS3 is the obvious choice. It just depends what is most important to you.

The PS3 has 256MB 3.2GHz XDR dedicated to the CPU and 256MB of 700MHz (1400MHz effective) DDR3 dedicated to the GPU. The Xbox360 has 512MB of 700MHz (1400MHz effective) that can be divided among the GPU and CPU however the developer chooses. The Xenos GPU in the 360 is NOT a modified X1950XTX, in fact, it resembles the R600 more than the R580. The difference is, it only has 48 unified shaders capable of pixel or vertex work (does not support Geometry shader), and is clocked at 500MHz. In fact, it's actually quite a bit weaker than the X1950XT when it comes to pure pixel shading power. It's advantages include 10MB of embedded eDRAM that is used as the systems frame buffer and is able to handle low levels of antialiasing and anisotropic filtering. The Xenos also supports hardware tessellation as also seen in ATi's Direct X10 cards, however the card doesn't actually support Direct X10 (due to it's lack of geometry shader support among other things). Tessellation has yet to be used in any game out, and it sounds like the Xenos won't really be able to take advantage of tessellation, much like the FX series being too slow for Direct X9 and the Geforce 6 series being too slow for FP16 and Shader Model 3.0. The RSX has more TMUs, more raw pixel shader power, and has the Cell to help take care of graphical tasks.

Honestly though, both consoles are pretty similar in power and it really just depends on who the developer is and what they can do. I have both systems and both have died once; my 360 Elite got the RRoD and my PS3's Blu-ray drive failed. My PS3 was returned exactly one week after I shipped it in the pre-paid box Sony sent me, where as my 360 wasn't returned for more than an entire month. This isn't really indicative to the quality of either Sony or Microsoft's repair service as results often vary. I like the PS3 a bit more because I don't like paying for Xbox Live and I prefer the media functionality of the PS3. The built in Wi-Fi is a bonus as well, a web browser (not amazing, but better than not having one) and it supports folding@home.

Trust me. I've sampled around 15 games on both consoles. At least in the case of EA, most of the games run smoother on the PS3.

I own GTA IV on the 360 and PS3 and it seems that the 360 version runs slightly better(and it's already running at a higher resolution!), although the PS3 version suffers from less pop-in. I've played quite a few demos of multi-platform titles on both the 360 and PS3 and the difference is generally very small, but I'd say if either version looks better due to richer colors, even though the difference is quite small.

I can't believe people are saying the ps3 runs smoother than the 360, In terms of frame rate the 360 wins hands down. The only advantage that the ps3 has is texture streaming but in most cases thats not noticeable whereas the difference in frame rate is because the ps3 games stutter so much. Also Games have reduced resolution on ps3 which makes games look out of focus and the lack of AA results in lots of jagged edges. Im talking from experience having played on both and also the following review sites mention the same things.

You can check comparisons on here; http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=163939
and here http://uk.gamespot.com/features/6191251/index.html?tag=result;title;0

PS3 can play Bluray if you intend on buying HD movies in the future.

PS3 for F@H, Bluray, or specific games.
360 for game range, and again any specific games you want.

PS3 hands down.

The one thing that people don't think about when this question is asked. What T.V. are you going to plug the console into. If you don't have a HD T.V. or are that interest in Blu-ray. Then you would be better with the Xbox.

If you think that watching Blu ray movies are going to be something yo uare going to do a lot of then it's got to be the PS3.

I don't own either consoles. But if I was looking at them I'd have to go for the Xbox. I don't have a full HD T.V. and Blu-ray doesn't really do anything for me. As a format I can't see it last long. I think it won't be to long until digital downloads take over for movies the way they have for music.

I think if your in it for the games you can't go past the Xbox.

My experiance has been the opposite. EA's sports games, for instance, are shoddy at best on the 360 these days, especially in cut-scenes.

You do realize that both the PS3 and 360 support texture streaming, and the Xbox360 had it first with Gears of War. Multi-platform titles may run at a lower resolution on the PS3 at times, but that's generally because they are developed on the 360 first and ported to the PS3. In fact, the PS3 has more titles that run at native resolutions higher than 720p than the 360 does, but they aren't multi-platform titles. The PS3 does have the advantage of a hard drive with every unit so developers can cache data or install it, as well as a limit of 50GB of data on a dual-layer Blu-ray dsic vs. the 6.5GB available on a dual layer Xbox360 DVD.

After some reviews I think it's better to get PS3. Xbox 360 isn't a stable system because its short life and after more than three generations of Xbox 360 we still facing malfunction everyday on these systems. If I get Xbox I'll have non-stop playing time of games and all the days so maybe I'll get RROD in one month at least. On another side PS3 is rock solid system , stable , many features are included in the package , big games titles and the whole experience gets better on everyday as I saw.
PS3 would be choice.

PS3 is better in my opinion since i like MGS4 and Killzone 2
also SOCOM 4 and its 1440p capable unlike xbox 360 but who needs 1440p right now?

I your going to buy a next gen console right now i recommend not because

Sony is working on a dual output console where one console can be outputted to two tv's (not clone) it pretends to be two console the codename for the project is playstation N0 (0 stands for degrees)

Right now specs are not released
They said their goal is to get the console to:
-at least a 3.4GHz dual core processor, 3.2GHz Quad core, or highest maximum 4.5GHz Quad Core (high clock cores required because two consoles being played in one requires alot of working in one console)
-ATI leaked projects codename Exillium X2 is a console GPU with 2GB of GDDR5 DirectX 11 Capable (Can output up to 8K Resolution with 2 cables and has 12 XDMI/HDMI Ports)
-around 2GB to 4GB of DDR3 or XVR ram (XVR is what IBM is working on with Rambus which has speeds of 500 Gigs/100 terabytes per second but this is a goal for now)
-500GB, 1TB, 2TB 7,200RPM SATA II HDD (Its already possible)
-Sony N0 (Hardware Manager it is responsible for the dual tv mode)
-Wireless N+ (This will be available once Wireless N project is fully complete)
-Sony may put in USB 3.0 ports but said they would doubt it would be needed and would cost alot of money
-Dual Slot Blu-Ray Quad Layer Burner (why burner? so you could burn data into writable disc they recommend rewritable disc)
-Firewire 800/I394b
-Media Card Reader
-at least 750w but they suggest 1000W to 1200W PSU
-PS2 Hardware Integrated (is disabled when PS2 Mode is turned off)
-PhysX 128MB/256MB GDDR3/4 PCIe Card
-Sony/Creative -0(degrees) XDAI/HDMI Sound

Remember they are working on it its just a goal and said they will be releasing in around Q3-Q4 2009/Q1-Q2 2010

This is leaked info so it is not fully expected since it could be not being developed

Blu-ray Quad Layer is 200GB

XDAI is extreme defintion audio interface running at full speed of up to

Sony has ask every game manufacterer to make games that are multiplatform have higher resolution on their system (They dont like the fact that every game has to be equal to xbox 360 contents 6.5GB vs 50Gb, 100gb, and 200gb use all its space!)

PlayStation N0 is capable of up to 4 maximum displays connected with 16 XDMI/HDMI cables

Sony has acquired Havok FX for use in PlayStation N0 but Havok has no news if they are still developing it

XDMI is higher uncompressed data transfer interface and clock of 800MHZ to 1200MHz speed sufficient for 4K resolution and this interface is capable of dual connect for two cables that has power of 8K resolution maximum. XDMI has 32 pins and is capable of being connected to an HDMI cable

Sony has acquired AGEIA/NVIDIA for PhysX on PlayStation N0

PlayStation Network is adding PlayStation Connect as its multiplayer server name

Both consoles are great, graphics are beautiful, games will come almost are the same for both, PS3 has good exclusive games (MGS4. LBP, KillZone 2, Resistance 2) like 360 too (Gears of War, Fable II), but the reason that I bougth a PS3 was it hasn´t RROD, I got a excellent BR Player, when Im not playing I use it like a mp3 player, PSN is free and good. Remember only this thing, If you have a 360 and get RROD, you will be in a Nightmare

The 360 does not overheat anymore with the newer ones. That is a fact. The disk drive doesn't fail as much now because microsoft uses a new manufacturer now. Fact. BUT the 360, despite not failing as much, STILL has the FREE 3 year warrenty. So you get a console with superior games, better graphics, better internet service, failure rate at acceptable levels AND a free 3 year warrenty. MS is adding blu-ray to the 360 this holiday season (maybe later) which will completely negate any advantages the PS3 has over it.

Except that games will still be released exclusively on DVD, so titles like Rage will look worse and will require multiple discs. The Xbox360 still doesn't have Wi-Fi, Free online, Bluetooth support, upgradable hard drives, a web browser, and more.  

I dont get why ppl make posts like this. Buy which ever system has the most games you want, or buy both? Its not like your glued to only one console.

And the 360 RROD is always blown out of proportion. Its not THAT common. Ive never had any problems with my 360.

But, if you want an opinion... Id say 360 because the PS3 has NO GOOD exlusives and the rest are just 360/PC ports.

When I see a report with stadistics confirm about you say, I will recomend buy a 360 and I will buy one. About graphics, doesn´t exist really great difference between both. About bluy-ray unit, if you want, it will cost some extra cash, but remember PS3 have a good functionality with its blue-ray control remote.

I owned both consoles. While the games are on the Xbox are miles better than the PS3 I much prefer the PS3 simple for the fact I can media stream, copy over movies to the hard drive, I also increased the hard driver from 40GB to 320GB. I can play divx movies no probem whatsover etc.
On the 360GB because my elite rrod'ed I had to get it replaced. I used the same hard drive from the old one and still offline access for my arcade games wouldn't work, offline access for the my movies wouldn't work.. reason?? DRM!!!. Sure you can create a new account and redownload the codecs but for the arcade games ? ur screwed...
MS has still refused to fix this for people who have had to replace their consoles and this has been ongoing for the last 3 years..

And fix the bloody edit option for christ's sake..

You can get wi-fi for it, but it does not come with the console built in. I would rather pay 5 dollars a month for xbox live than get the crap service offered on the PS3. A 20 gig hard drive is good for games, the 60 gig allows you to put all your games and alot of download able stuff on it, and the 120 gig just blows everything away. The Web browser is crap on the PS3. It seems that all you did is list things the PS3 has not included on the 360, regardless of why it's not there or how important it is. You sound like Sarah Palin.

And someone said they like the PS3 for video streaming, you can do the EXACT SAME THING on the 360 through windows media center. This fall, if you have an able netflix account, you will even be able to watch their DVD's in high def (the ones allowed to stream on the computer) at no extra cost, provided you already pay for xbox live and a netflix account.

Brilliant, try and bring politics into the discussion.  

I have a 120GB hard drive on my 360, but I have a 200GB 7200RPM drive in my PS3. I don't want to pay $100 for the Wi-fi adapter from Microsoft, and I'd rather have my free PSN than continue to pay for Gold. Sure the 360 can stream video just like the PS3 can, but the thing is so much louder, making me use the PS3 more. You are also able to copy any streamed media to the hard drive on the PS3, something Microsoft currently doesn't allow. You also say you get to use Netflix at no extra cost, except for Xbox Live Gold which I currently don't pay for, and I don't even have a Netflix account, nor do I want one. If Xbox Live is so great, why does Microsoft impose a 300MB limit on how large Live Arcade games can be? Now I know the new Portal downloadable is about 640MB, but I downloaded a game on PSN that was over 9GB, making it obvious which company is truly serious about digital distribution.

On another note, Little Big Planet just came out, and so far I've had more fun with it than any title I own or have played on the Xbox 360.

What may hurt PS3, aside from the 360 price drops and it's titles, is Blu-ray players have dropped in price. I bought my PS3 because this time last year the PS3 was $399, the same price as a stand-alone Blu-ray player. I'm glad now I have the PS3, and play it a lot. But that being said, it's my first console since the Sega 16-bit, and had Blu-ray players been $250 like they are now, I probably wouldn't have a PS3.

Wii + PC = gratification

I also have a 360 and would never go near a PS but that is due to deep rooted fanboyisnm dating back to when i won the one of the first 2 Saturns to enter the country in Match magazine....ahh the memories xD

In terms of technical arguments, 360 controller is better. I never held a PS controller but i dont need to. If its as good as the 360 controller then they copied MS. It cannot be better as the 360 controller is perfect.

I know the feeling; I hated the PS2 because I was an early adopter of the Dreamcast and what was basically an inferior console ended up killing one of the best systems ever. Also, the 360 controller is far from perfect; the D-pad is a piece of ****, and they use some proprietary wireless frequency instead of a standard like Bluetooth. Also, if you want to use a wireless 360 controller on the PC, you need to buy Microsoft's wireless adapter where the PS3's controller can be plugged in with a standard usb cable. While it's not officially supported by Sony, the controller has worked fine in my experience with homemade drivers I found online. It's nice that the controllers also come with a rechargable battery built in, and the motion sensor is a nice touch when you aren't losing any other functionality with the Dualshock 3. Really though, I'm nitpicking and both controllers are very comfortable and functional.

I think it's more of personal preference thing since the layout on both is roughly the same. Some prefer it being bigger/smaller. My friends 360 controller seems like a dinner plate compared to the PS3. Sony was in a tough spot after all the PS/PS2 sales, they were kind of painted into a corner on the design IMO.

lulz my controller comment was more meant to signify my complete ignorance around anything technical to do with todays comments.

I cant really say the D-Pad ever gets used, except for quick weapon switching, or hotkeying.
I am prepared to pay extra to use a 360 controller with a PC as it is better, regardless of whether it is a needless expense.

By the way im a RROD victim. I stumpled across an x clamp fix earlier - has anyone tried this?

http://forums.xbox-scene.com/index.php?showtopic=595746

To head off the "lol fanboy your console sucks coz its broke" comments....i own 2 Xbox 360's  

You'll head off "fanboy" comments? But you claim a 360 controller is better although by your own admission you've never even held a PS3 controller?

Thank you for sparing us any fanboyism....

I've heard that the x clamp fix works quite well; I didn't attempt it on my Elite when I got the RROD because I'm still under warranty, but if I were without warranty I would definitely give it a shot. I know we like to joke about 360 hardware being bad (statistically it is the most likely to fail) but I've actually had my PS3 break on me as well. My Blu-ray drive stopped reading discs so I have have had to send in BOTH my Xbox 360 and PS3 for repairs. Maybe I have bad luck...  

How long have you had it? My bud with an early 60gb has had a few "issues" with his, but nothing requiring a repair. It just acts odd sometimes and needs a few reboots.

I had it for 11 months before the Blu-ray drive died, so I was just barely in warranty. I had experienced no issues prior to the drive failing. I was playing Metal Gear Solid 4 about to fight Laughing Octopus when an icon appeared in the top left corner of a disc and a question mark, alternating. Other than that and the RROD, I haven't had any problems with my consoles. My Wii has never had an issue, but in fairness it doesn't get used nearly as much as the PS3 or 360.

As awesome as the Wii is, at least to me it's a more social, usually drunken, thing.

Recently we've been using the PS3 as the social console thanks to Little Big Planet, but I don't know how well playing it drunk would work.  

Sweet. My next title. I get daily texts from a friend to buy it.

Given the choice between PS3 of the 360, here's my living room setup

PS3: Most of my favorite console games can be played on it and sometimes there's just no replacing the gamepad. Thanks to box set discounts and $20 price cuts my BluRay library is growing almost weekly.

Wii: Mario Kart and Smash Bro. It's brought out at least 1/wk, after band practices and/or BBQs.

PC: My main gaming platform, there's nothing that compares to the control you have with a mouse or joystick. Given the option of PC or PS3, I'll go with the PC every time. I'll rarely buy any game for both with the exception of Fallout, Orange Box and Oblivion, (or Bioshock strictly on the PS3 due to their DRM).

...Excuse me, gotta get back to Fallout  

Gears of War 2 just came out yesterday and it's awesome if you can get 4 friends to play Horde mode with. Me and 3 other guys were doing system link and we're currently stuck on wave 10 on Insane.

well, the RRoD is less common now due to new parts and better cooling performance being fitted so I don't see no reason to go for the Xbox 360 and there is a new dashboard coming out in 2weeks. The internet service isn't that dear, only 40GBP a year, or around 30 on eBay lol  
http://www.xbox.com/en-us/live/nxe/ << Check that out

I just don't like the PS3, it's ugly, overpriced and... the online is laggy and I just don't like the interface and the controllers etc. That's why I sold it. I love the 360, it's just so pro and badboy looking   And you can fully customise the dashboard...!

This new update is going to be amazing.! anyone going to second me on this????

Extremely nitpicking, does it matter if Xbox uses a wireless signal rather than bluetooth? and you can use Xbox 360 controllers on PC too, although you need to buy the adaptor, I think you're scraping at excuses hear   being a huge fan of the PS3, you're using anything to put the 360 down  

You're entitled to your opinion though  

what am i on about lol, sorry i meant to say being a fan of the 360 you're using anything to put it down*

im beggining to wonder if you actually do own a 360... ?