any suggestions on a MMO that isnt WOW to replace helgate?

I have just started playing Warhammer online and I love it but very PVP based. Previously I played Lord of the Rings Online and that is awesome, gave me soo much gametime, very pretty and a very good story. They are also about to update the game with the Mines of Moria Expansion. Both are brilliant IMO. Check out Eve online as well, I was a big fan of Frontier and its basically a modern version of that, Eve will destroy your life though if you do start to play .
All cost £8 per month (ish) subscription.

I tried eve, unfortunately don't have the time for it, not much of a MMO player but as far as graphically you don't get much different from WoW.

Judging by how WAR looks and how he doesn't like the WoW graphics i doubt it would be his thing.

Not wanting to offend anyone comparing the two but from what i have seen they are close.

Have a look at Shaiya. It's free, if you don't like it, you've lost nothing

Maybe Guild Wars ?

Warhammer Online is good, but after level 20 or so it becomes pretty grindy. I would recommend it if you are looking for something to play for one or two months and then move on, but if you are the kind of guy who gets married to his MMOs.... I couldn't really recommend any of them right now. I am looking forward to the Old Republic however.

Everquest 2's graphics are very similar to Guild Wars.

There aren't many actually new players in EQ2 though, so I really don't know if that part of the game's decent anymore, or if it's a patchwork mess of zones and questlines that were added and forgotten by developers that came and went like some tiers were not long ago.

Their new zone design's more WoW-like, with an outpost you run quests from before moving on to the next one. I expect the expansion will continue with that.

Guild Wars or you can play Eva Online or Anarchy Online if you like a more futuristic setting. [IMG][IMG]

First like to say +1 for Warhammer Online.

To the quote above I concur for the most part. WAR's PvP is certainly no worse and in most cases better than PvP with any other "current" MMO.

Now go way back and Asheron's Call I'll say was to me better than any out now as far as "twitch skill". When you tossed a fireball or shot that arrow it would arc only if your opponent was moving and would "anticipate" where they would end up. Now if they moved, changed direction or were sitting still but then moved after you fired but before the missile hit you then it would miss more like the real world. One thing I love about WAR is that if you duck behind a tree, pillar or some other natural obstacle your opponents attack smashes against it with not affect to you, also have to face your opponent to pull anything off. I've kited much more damaging classes in WAR and eventually taken them down due to actual maneuvers not just gear or stat tracking. I say Asheron's call was the pinnacle of this in all the MMOs I've played but WAR is certainly the best PvP I have played since AC all those years ago.

You can always give WAR a try, watch a video or two if your'e worried about the look too much, and I feel you will get your $50 worth in that first free month of play even if you don't continue playing afterwards. I've already played it more in recent weeks than a lot of $50 games I buy and I don't play every night. Read reviews and watch some vids tho for sure.