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No software...Well, no wonder...
/Kenneth
"The Subject ®" skrev:
>
> Kenneth,
>
> I did as you requested and the first computer did not access the internet at
> all. For the record this computer did not have a static IP address set in
> the computer or Gateway, in addition it has no firewall software.
>
> It did return with an IP address of 192.168.1.100 and a gateway of
> 192.168.1.1
>
> It did dawn on me that it should not be able to access the internet though
> since there is no software to log on to the internet on it. The only one of
> the four computers that has actual software to log on to the internet is the
> main computer which has no problem. I have, several months, ago placed the
> software to log in to the internet on the other computers but that did not
> work.
>
> From my understanding, and correct me if I am wrong, if the main computer
> logs into the internet, the others should be able to share the connection to
> connect to the internet via the switch.
>
> Thanks again for all your help and everyone else's.
>
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> "Kenneth Roback" <JohnBlund2001@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:41DEBD86.7F7969A0@hotmail.com...
> > Ok,
> >
> > Can you do the following test and see what happens:
> >
> > 1. Turn off every computer.
> > 2. Turn off and then back on the power to your DSL modem (PPP adapter) or
> > what they call it.
> >
> > 3. Now only turn on one of the computers that doesn't work towards
> > Internet
> > and make sure that you haven't set a fixed IP address on that one.
> > (i.e. that it get an IP address automatically).
> >
> > 4. Check again what local IP address it gets by the command: netstat -n
> > and make a note of it.
> >
> > 5. Now try to access Internet, does it work ?
> > If it does, make the same test with every computer one at a time
> > by following the procedure mentioned above and make sure that only one
> > computer
> > at a time is powered on.
> >
> > Return with the results of the tests.
> >
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > /Kenneth
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "The Subject ®" skrev:
> >>
> >> Ken,
> >>
> >> Maybe I am jumping the gun. But I took one of the other computers and set
> >> the ip at 192.168.1.103, Subnet Mask at 255.255.255.0, and Gateway at
> >> 192.168.1.1
> >>
> >> After restarting I could see still see the other computers in the
> >> network,
> >> but that computer could not get on to the net. Additionally when I ran
> >> the
> >> Windows XP Network Wizard on the computer (not the main one), I got an
> >> error
> >> message saying it that it could not find a proper gateway.
> >>
> >> Once again thank you for your help.
> >>
> >> --
> >>
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> >>
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> >> "The Subject ®" <The_Subject@the.village.com> wrote in message
> >> news:3464oiF487t0qU1@individual.net...
> >> > Before I forget, thank you for all your help.
> >> >
> >> > First off my knowledge of networks is basic, just enough to be
> >> > dangerous
> >> > and screw things up. Here is the information on the main computer
> >> > (runs
> >> > on XP Home)
> >> >
> >> > Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:
> >> >
> >> > Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
> >> > IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.100
> >> > Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
> >> > Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
> >> >
> >> > PPP adapter ISP Name:
> >> >
> >> > Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
> >> > IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 68.126.80.120
> >> > Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.255
> >> > Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 68.126.80.120
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > From what I can tell from the other computers they get IP Addresses of
> >> > 192.168.1.10x
> >> >
> >> > From what I can gather, from what you are saying, I most likely should
> >> > set
> >> > each of the other computers IP address and gateway.
> >> >
> >> > Thanks
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> >
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> >> > message.
> >> >
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> >> > "Kenneth Roback" <JohnBlund2001@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >> > news:41DC9964.C662BDD9@hotmail.com...
> >> >> Firstly a computer doesn't choose an IP address...
> >> >> Either you set it manually under Internet Protocol (TCP/IP) and
> >> >> properties
> >> >> or it gets it's IP address from a DHCP server.
> >> >>
> >> >> I don't know how much you know about networking, so bare with me...
> >> >>
> >> >> Usually many Internet Providers only supply you with only one IP
> >> >> adress
> >> >> from their DHCP server.
> >> >> This meaning that you only can use one computer towards Internet with
> >> >> that IP address.
> >> >> So if you have several computers and only gets one IP address from
> >> >> your
> >> >> provider it wouldn't work.
> >> >> This since every active computer needs to have an unique IP address in
> >> >> order to be able to
> >> >> distinguish which one is "talking" to Internet and should have the
> >> >> correct response from Internet.
> >> >>
> >> >> This is quite common and the solution in that case is to have either a
> >> >> hardware firewall,
> >> >> router or gateway acting as a gateway between your Internet Provider
> >> >> and
> >> >> your local network.
> >> >> It's necessary that it can handle NAT (Network Address Translation).
> >> >> It's a good feature (but not absolutely necessary) if it also can act
> >> >> as
> >> >> a DHCP server itself
> >> >> towards your local network.
> >> >>
> >> >> This means that the IP address you get from your Internet Provider's
> >> >> DHCP
> >> >> server is taken by
> >> >> that gateway in order to use towards your Internet Provider and
> >> >> Internet,
> >> >> whilst the gateway itself (if it can act as a DHCP server) gives your
> >> >> computers local IP addresses
> >> >> on your local network when you turn them on.
> >> >> However if the gateway cannot act as a DHCP server, you will have to
> >> >> manually set each
> >> >> computers IP addresses under Internet Protocol (TCP/IP) and
> >> >> properties.
> >> >> I myself would prefer setting the IP addresses manually though and
> >> >> have
> >> >> done so in my network.
> >> >>
> >> >> In your case you say that your computers can communicate with each
> >> >> other
> >> >> on your local network,
> >> >> indicating that they must have received an unique IP address from
> >> >> somewhere though, so do you
> >> >> know if your Internet Provider supply you with more than one IP
> >> >> address
> >> >> or if you have a DSL modem
> >> >> or something having this DHCP feature active ?
> >> >>
> >> >> If you don't know then go to a command prompt (MSDOS prompt) on each
> >> >> computer and enter
> >> >> the command: netstat -n
> >> >> and you'll see what local IP address each computer have.
> >> >> If they say something like: 192.168.0.something then your computers
> >> >> doesn't get their IP addresses
> >> >> from your Internet Provider but from some equipment you have in your
> >> >> local network.
> >> >>
> >> >> On your XP computer, go to a command prompt (MSDOS prompt) and enter
> >> >> the
> >> >> command: ipconfig
> >> >> and you should get some information about its IP address, netmask and
> >> >> default gateway.
> >> >>
> >> >> Return with the information you gathered and we'll see if this
> >> >> information can give a clue...
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Regards
> >> >>
> >> >> /Kenneth
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> "The Subject ®" skrev:
> >> >>>
> >> >>> I let each computer automatically choose a IP address. Is this wrong?
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Thanks
> >> >>>
> >> >>> --
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Due to large amount of spam mail as well as personal security, please
> >> >>> respond directly to this newsgroup. Encrypted Messages, using PGP can
> >> >>> be
> >> >>> posted in alt.anonymous.messages, please place
> >> >>> "D43E68CD14F2AD50465A4CF3D8C4DC1C99C221A5" in the subject of the
> >> >>> message.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> PGP Security Key: 0xB093E95A (I no longer use the key - 0xE0685B4D)
> >> >>> "Kenneth Roback" <JohnBlund2001@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >> >>> news:41DB2EC3.5E4B2862@hotmail.com...
> >> >>> > Hi,
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> > Sorry for barging in like this and asking some maybe stupid
> >> >>> > questions,
> >> >>> > but:
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> > Since you say that the 3rd Win 98 Computer has no firewall
> >> >>> > protection
> >> >>> > on
> >> >>> > it
> >> >>> > and still not can access Internet (if I understand it right), I
> >> >>> > doubt
> >> >>> > that
> >> >>> > the trouble is firewall related.
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> > Have you defined a default gateway at all in your computers
> >> >>> > under Internet Protocol (TCP/IP) and properties ?
> >> >>> > If you have, what does it say and point to ?
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> > And how have you defined your computers separate IP addresses ?
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> > Regards
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> > /Kenneth
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> > PS. Please respond directly to this newsgroup.
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> > "The Subject ®" skrev:
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >> I have tried it and from the Win 98 computers they say they can
> >> >>> >> not
> >> >>> >> find
> >> >>> >> a
> >> >>> >> "Gateway". It is strange, all the computers can exchange files
> >> >>> >> with
> >> >>> >> each
> >> >>> >> other, however the Win98 computers can not get on the net.
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >> This make a change in the set up so please let me know. The WinXP
> >> >>> >> Computer
> >> >>> >> and 2 of the Win 98 Computers are using Symantec Internet Security
> >> >>> >> (Firewall). The 3rd Win 98 Computer has no firewall protection on
> >> >>> >> it.
> >> >>> >> Should
> >> >>> >> I open certain ports on the firewall to allow them all access to
> >> >>> >> the
> >> >>> >> net?
> >> >>> >> If
> >> >>> >> so which computers and which ports?
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >> Thanks a million
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >> --
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >> Due to large amount of spam mail as well as personal security,
> >> >>> >> please
> >> >>> >> respond directly to this newsgroup. Encrypted Messages, using PGP
> >> >>> >> can
> >> >>> >> be
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> >> >>> >> "D43E68CD14F2AD50465A4CF3D8C4DC1C99C221A5" in the subject of the
> >> >>> >> message.
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >> PGP Security Key: 0xB093E95A (I no longer use the key -
> >> >>> >> 0xE0685B4D)
> >> >>> >> "Thorsten Matzner" <tmatzner@gmx.net> wrote in message
> >> >>> >> news:%23tVTqnY7EHA.3644@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> >> >>> >> > "The Subject ®" <The_Subject@the.village.com> wrote:
> >> >>> >> >
> >> >>> >> >>Is there anyway, using Windows XP, that I can share a DSL
> >> >>> >> >>connection
> >> >>> >> >>with other computers in my home network, using a LinkSys Work
> >> >>> >> >>Group
> >> >>> >> >>Switch (Model EZXS55W). We can see each others files, but the
> >> >>> >> >>other
> >> >>> >> >>computers can not log on to the internet. They are all on
> >> >>> >> >>Windows
> >> >>> >> >>98,
> >> >>> >> >>where I am on Windows XP Home.
> >> >>> >> >
> >> >>> >> > This should work, but you may have to check the router settings
> >> >>> >> > for
> >> >>> >> > this.
> >> >>> >> > To set up network connections, run the Network Setup Wizard on
> >> >>> >> > the
> >> >>> >> > Windows XP machine. When it is finished, let it create the
> >> >>> >> > Wizard
> >> >>> >> > CD
> >> >>> >> > to run the Wizard on the Windows 98 computers as well.
> >> >>> >> >
> >> >>> >> > --
> >> >>> >> > (tm)
> >> >
> >> >
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