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just got a GTX 260, Crysis lags like crazy,what else to change?

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October 28, 2008 10:05:29 PM

ok here are my system Specs:
CPU: AMD Athlon 64 X2 5200+ 2.61ghz 2mb l2 cache socket AM2
Graphics: Nvidia Geforce GTX 260 896mb overclocked to 650mhz on a PCI E 2.0 slot
RAM: 2gb DDR2
Powersupply: 550W
Harddrive: 7200RPM i think
Windows Vista 32bit Sp1 BRAND NEW COPY WITH NO BACKGROUND APPS RUNNING
i have Dual Core optimizer too

ALL THESE ARE MAXIMUM POSSIBLE SETTINGS:
i can run GEARS OF WAR on Ultra high and never dip blow 50fps
i can run OBLIVION and never get less or more (its capped) than 60fps
FAR CRY2 does 29-45fps depending on day time, conditions

now my problem with Crysis is the following
i set everything to ultra high with no AA
1440x900 without v sync

The game runs at a nice n smooth 30fps BUT whenever i smash things or shoot at ppl it can dip to 18-22fps
also when i go to a place with a lot of buildings it drops to 22fps
also whenever i turn my fuking head it slows down to 24fps from 30fps
what is causing this?
even when i switch the graphics from Ultra High to High i get the exact Fps
(maybe 2fps less)

my question is could the processor be at fault here?
when i play crysis it uses up about 59-69% of total processing power
uses 1.5gb of ram
and the graphics card reaches temperatures of 65 degrees Celsius

im really disgusted right now because no matter what i throw at my computer... when i turn my head really quickly or do stuff that required physics calculations the game stutters for 3s and then become PERFECTLY smooth again

PLEASE HELP ME

aditional info:
my computer has a brand new copy of VISTA 32bit home premium (SP1) on it so it dosent have alot of stuff on it lol
and my frame capture software was FRAPS
and i had nothing running in the background during the tests except for vital stuff like windows processeses, msn, daemon tools and fraps (not recording)
October 28, 2008 11:28:01 PM

I think if you got 2 more Gigs of ram that would probably solve the problem
October 29, 2008 12:15:10 AM

Not your rig's fault. It's typical with Crysis to run like that. Most of the benchs are done with QX6850 or better. Try overclock your CPU to 3GHz and you should see some improvement.
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October 29, 2008 9:13:24 PM

ok so i tried again and press ctrl alt delete while playing the game...
windows is using 1.8gb of ram out of my 2gb
and OVER 2.5gb of Pagefile
should i get more RAM?
October 29, 2008 11:38:28 PM

i think its your cpu.
October 29, 2008 11:43:01 PM

Both CPU and RAM are getting a little slow these days. I'd recommend a CPU upgrade to a Q9*** Intel CPU and overclock that and get yourself an extra 2GB of RAM. That should make Crysis very playable at 1440x900 with Max Details.
October 30, 2008 12:12:55 AM

You're trying to play crysis on ultra quality on a mid end video card?

You need at least two gtx 280 to play on ultra quality at that resolution. 3 gtx 280 to play at 1920x1200.

Plus your CPU is holding you down. The RAM is fine.
October 30, 2008 3:12:43 AM

i just want 30fps like it should
i dont want 50fps, people who want that usually get 2X GTX280s
and GTX260 is not mid range please dont say that IT PISSES ME OFF

So i have to make a 730 dollar upgrade now
4gb OCZ PC2-6400 RAM
Intel Core 2 Quare Q9400 2.66ghz I HAVE NO IDEA HOW TO OVERCLOCK
new motherboard
new case since my current one is micro ATX ( dont ask how i fit a GTX260 into that pls)

and i should be able to run it 30fps + RIGHT?!?! (ultra high)

i like how turning the AA to 4x dosent make a FPS difference for me what so ever lol since my CPu is probly holding me back
October 30, 2008 5:09:11 AM

Pretty sure it is lack of ram. I had 4200+, 8800GTX, 4GB of ram, Vista x64 and was running crysis just fine. Obviously not ultra high but that was because of vid card. CPU usage around 60%, Ram usage over 3GB, at some points Crysis on its own used over 2GB of Ram. What happens to You is that You run out of ram and use pagefile too much which causes slowdowns. I have since switched over to P35 board, Q6600 @3.2GHz, 6GB Ram. Have not tried crysis after that but would expect similar performance due to old vid card.
October 30, 2008 11:09:24 AM

steelthorn3 said:
You're trying to play crysis on ultra quality on a mid end video card?

You need at least two gtx 280 to play on ultra quality at that resolution. 3 gtx 280 to play at 1920x1200.

Plus your CPU is holding you down. The RAM is fine.


What're you smoking?

2 x ATI HD4850 give playable framerates with max-details at 1680x1050. 2 GTX 280s give about 60fps with max. details at 1680x1050 (I know, i have them) and i'm pretty sure it'd still be playable at 1920x1200.

Oh and the GTX 260 isn't a mid-range card. Mid range these days is things like the 9800GT. GTX 260 is considered high-end, whilst the GTX 280 is considered ultra-high end.
November 18, 2008 6:04:32 PM

Hey I have a 8800GT with 2GB of RAM and I just got a Q9550. I didn't notice any difference in game performance. So I got two more sticks of RAM total of 4GB and I notice a pretty big increase in performance. My CPU was being held back by my Ram.

So heres the deal. My 2GB of ram was holding my Q9550 performance back. I got the ram and it was able to open up more performance. Now my 8800GT is still holding my Q9550 full potential back. All these components work together and if one is holding you back its not going anywhere. Get 4GB of ram.

Your GPU is actually pretty good and I know guys running some of the most graphic intensive games like Crysis, FSX, COD4 on max with that card. In this case your CPU and your Ram are holding your GPU back drastically.

I would say new CPU first as well as 4GB of ram at the same time. You will have a flying fast system if you do that.

I have a 8800GT, Q9550, 4GB ram and I can play Crysis on the highest of high graphics with no AA of course with 30fps.

Come to think of it, my previous system with a 8800Gt, e6600 2.4Ghz CPU, and 2GB ram, I was still able to run Crysis on maxed graphics.

You might also want to lower your blur option. Also check your GPU settings in windows and you can try turning off your vertical sync option. If it lags when you turn, its a vertical sync issue. That is pretty GPU demanding, but like I said I dont have that problem and never did.
November 19, 2008 3:15:24 AM

turn off post-processing. it hurts your eyes ( it hurt mine).
November 19, 2008 7:58:32 AM

I use 4gb for crysis wars and after a couple of hours (memory leak?) I start lagging and see my pagefile usage shoot up. Get 4gb or 8gb! and the problem should go away You CPU is getting on but should cope ok
November 19, 2008 8:09:20 AM

Its your CPU and RAM.
vista 32-bit can use up to like 3.2GB i think.
When I went from 2GB to 4GB, it made a big difference!
November 19, 2008 8:40:20 AM

Beat me to it gellert :p 

Afaik, all these people posting to get an extra 2gb RAM have missed that you are on 32bit so a lot of that upgrade wont be recognised.

If i were you I'd spend some cash on a OEM 64 bit Vista, up the RAM and the CPU. I guess the case as well will need redoing..i saw a few days ago that Ebuyer in the UK has the Antec 900 reduced so idk if you will see the same in USA or wherever you are from.

Bit of a reality check, your GPU is sweet, the rest is (going on what you say) pretty average so yes its reasonable to suggest upgrades to more than one section if you want to keep up with bleeding edge.


I wonder if people would agree with me in saying get a Q6600 instead as they are apparantly a doddle to Overclock, and will save some cash.
I know little of Intel, and overclocking so dont just take my advice on that
November 26, 2008 1:22:08 PM

The 6600 is getting a little long in the tooth. I'd get either a Q9550, or wait a while for i7 (and the m/bs and DDR3) to come down in price a little.

In the short term, an extra 2Gb of RAM and an upgrade to Vista64 should help a little - BUT that RAM would only be good for a future upgrade to Core2Duo/Quad, NOT i7. However, 2Gb of RAM is quite cheap these day so the OP might not be concerned about writing off that investment when he next upgrades.
November 26, 2008 7:32:00 PM

baracubra said:
Its your CPU and RAM.
vista 32-bit can use up to like 3.2GB i think.
When I went from 2GB to 4GB, it made a big difference!


With the GTX260 using near a GB of ram that ceiling drops to below 3GB, at which point it might be worth the move to 64bit.


December 1, 2008 7:28:26 AM

steelthorn3 said:
You're trying to play crysis on ultra quality on a mid end video card?

You need at least two gtx 280 to play on ultra quality at that resolution. 3 gtx 280 to play at 1920x1200.

Plus your CPU is holding you down. The RAM is fine.

a 260 gtx is not enough but 2 gtxs are not needed a 9800gx2 should do the job fine with a good CPU
December 1, 2008 1:35:30 PM

I built a system for a friend with a gtx 260 (overclocked via rivatuner ) (he wanted it to be very cheap so i put most of the money into the videocard)

2GB memory ( gskill, one of their higher end models that overclock well)

500GB hard drive

amd 64 x2 5400+ overclocked

running windows xp

1680x1050 everything maxed out except AA

he hovers around 30-40FPS except when in the alien ship where it goes down to around 26-30FPS

toere is no turning lag or the explosion lag (other than the standars slight fps drop when a large explosion happens (reasonable as theres more to render)

it runs smooth

I also stripped down the startup so theres only 11 running processes at startup (system memory usage at bootup is around 60MB

remember, vista comes pre bloated and if you are using a store bought gaming pc or are running something like nortons or itunes or other memory and cpu hogging apps then games will run slower

I dualboot vista and 3 copies of windows xp

many games that run smooth in xp, range from slightly laggy, to moderately laggy in vista



I recommend you upgrade to 4GB memory as vista is most likely already using much of your system memory to just run it's self, leaving very little for your other apps

also use codestuff starter to disable any startup items and services that you don't need

http://www.snapfiles.com/get/starter.html

and extra ram helps

when I use 3GB of ram (i mainly use 2GB since my other memory sticks don't overclock as much) crysis runs a little smoother, the fps don't go any higher but the game holds a more steady frame rate (but i don't keep 3Gb because then i pretty much have to cut my cpu overclock in half because the other memory sticks don't overclock well
August 4, 2009 8:49:59 PM

there all rong i have the same problem as you trust me buy 2more gigs of ram
August 5, 2009 10:50:03 PM

CPU Is definetely hurting you the most dude. Ram would help, but Crysis is very CPU dependent.

I run a GTX 260 with a q6600, and overclocking from 2.4 to 3.0 ghz made a BIG difference. Running an older chip at 2.6 would be the first thing I would upgrade.

4 gig of ram is dirt cheap lately too... at least the ddr2 800, which is all you need.

P.S. Forget about ultra high on Crysis unless you wanna spend a couple thousand bucks on a new system. It looks plenty good on high. If you are playable on high settings at that resolution I would quit while you are ahead.
August 11, 2009 12:51:59 PM

I found that the Utilities that come with most manufacturers cards really help FAN SPEEDS to keep your card cool... might want to look into that!!!
August 11, 2009 3:18:28 PM

Lol but a gtx 260 IS a mid range card tee hee!, of course its one of the faster mid range cards.
August 12, 2009 1:39:45 PM

You don't have enough ram, your processors too slow and your settings are far beyond what your video card can handle.
August 27, 2009 11:00:45 PM

Ok you call it mid range but it runs games that came out this year with max settings @ 1680x1050 without a hiccup. Guess you never played on one yourself?
I would call it high enough range. I can play almost everything at max 1680 x 1050. I wonder if the performance increase on your system would be noticeable over my system on 9/10 games... I highly doubt it!

Difference is I spent 160$ on my card
Anonymous
August 29, 2009 2:24:26 AM

i bet i know what it is. its the same with mine. i bought my bfg gtx 260 oc and i bought a psu the same day for it. mines also 550 watts. but... i just learned that my psu only has a total of 36 amps on boths rails and the minimum for gtx 260 is 38. i need to get a new psu now because mine isnt powerfull enough. it might be ur psu.
August 31, 2009 10:27:49 PM

Hey now, don't be angry.. You could always add a second gtx 260 you know?
September 2, 2009 6:06:44 AM

Maybe you need more Ram or better CPU I have same card (overclocked) and also get lag on 1680x1050 on Ultra High. The card just isn't cut out for Ultra High Crysis gameplay I just turn it down to Medium - High.
September 2, 2009 2:07:33 PM

RAM, Crysis doesnt really use very much in CPU power. Even with my e6550 it only would sit at about 28% usage.
November 9, 2009 1:22:28 AM

I have same issue - temporary 350watt PSU, AMD x64 dual-core, Nvidia Gforce x8400 PCI (no, not "e" - just pci) 4GB RAM, Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit - bad lag! have not played with much settings.

Heard some people talk about turning off "Cool n' quiet" in the bios - BIG lag - even the VOICE does NOT match when the guys are first joking around at the beginning.
Again, 4GB - so it is NOT a MEMORY issue

NOTE: This game plays FANTASTIC !!! on XP Pro, 32-bit, with 2GB RAM.

Have not played with the settings much on the new Windows 7 setup nor the Crysis setup on Windows 7. Not sure what resoultion on the XP Pro.

Person with the XP Pro system has not tweaked anything - runs great at 30 to 35fps, virtually no lag, no problems with voice+video synch.

So... it is NOT a memory issue - and we don't do overclock - the AMD is a Socket AM2 5200+ brand new, and a... brain cramp... decent motherboard with 24-pin power connector, etc.

I flashed the Award bios so it can see/use all the memory - ASUS - that's it - on the ASUS motherboard.

I have ZERO anti-virus - just base build of Win 7 64-bit Ultimate.

I will check into turning off anti-aliasing, and making sure it is set for Med-High vs. Ultra-high, whatever all of that means, but you would think a AMD x64 dual-core, with 4GB Corsair 800Mhz DDR2 memory would run this MUCH BETTER than old XP Pro 32-bit with 2GB of RAM - sounds like design flaw and maybe the game not knowing how to utilize the 64-bit + dual-core to its optimum. Even though it's PCI graphics - it is a decent card - don't slam me with any comments about 'mid-range' vs. 'super-$800-ultra-range' card - if it runs fine on XP 32-bit, with HALF the RAM, it should run TWICE AS GOOD on 64-bit Windows 7 ultimate, with TWICE the RAM!

Any help or comments appreciated - don't tell to upgrade the graphics card, since XP Pro works, as I said, "FANTASTIC" with this same game!

Seriously - don't slam me for PCI vs. PCIe either - of course I prefer PCIe. :-(

Really - THANK YOU - most of the time, you folks give WONDERFULLY helpful comments!!!
Anonymous
December 25, 2009 8:54:05 PM

stevensl2 said:
Lol but a gtx 260 IS a mid range card tee hee!, of course its one of the faster mid range cards.


WHAT ARE YOU ON ABOUT?

A mid range card is at least 9 series or the 8 series......

A low range card is anything lower than the 8 series......

A High range card is anything in the gtx 200 series or more..........

Dude any gtx 200 series card's is made for gaming, you cant say the gtx 260 is midrange when its getting at least 40 fps in games like Crysis........
December 26, 2009 10:05:12 PM

Ok my saying on this is get 2 more gigs of Ram, and bring down those settings down to very high, not ultra high, . Very high settings are for gtx285+ or Radeons 4850+. A cpu like yours should do the job but 3.2 ghz would help alot.

I can run without any lag at all at these specs:

Intel Core 2 duo E8600 @3.33ghz
Nvidia GTX 260
4GB RAM
750PSU
AND 2 120mm Fans blowing straight at it with another 120mm on top and a 90mm blowing the hot air out. Remember CRYSIS will make your system heat up very quick. NO OVERCLOCKING NEEDED
December 26, 2009 10:06:30 PM

ohhh remember to use EVGA Precision tool to kick up your GPU FAN speed up to 70 is fine. THAT HELPS ALOT TRUST ME
December 27, 2009 2:37:41 PM

dude the cpu is the culprit...I have a amd phenom x3 8450 and 4890 ,face the same same problem...In some scenario frame rates drops to 16fps...The game is not optimized for amd cpu
December 27, 2009 8:15:16 PM

This thread is so old
Anonymous
January 1, 2010 2:46:48 PM

jman_26 said:
I have same issue - temporary 350watt PSU, AMD x64 dual-core, Nvidia Gforce x8400 PCI (no, not "e" - just pci) 4GB RAM, Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit - bad lag! have not played with much settings.

Heard some people talk about turning off "Cool n' quiet" in the bios - BIG lag - even the VOICE does NOT match when the guys are first joking around at the beginning.
Again, 4GB - so it is NOT a MEMORY issue

NOTE: This game plays FANTASTIC !!! on XP Pro, 32-bit, with 2GB RAM.

Have not played with the settings much on the new Windows 7 setup nor the Crysis setup on Windows 7. Not sure what resoultion on the XP Pro.

Person with the XP Pro system has not tweaked anything - runs great at 30 to 35fps, virtually no lag, no problems with voice+video synch.

So... it is NOT a memory issue - and we don't do overclock - the AMD is a Socket AM2 5200+ brand new, and a... brain cramp... decent motherboard with 24-pin power connector, etc.

I flashed the Award bios so it can see/use all the memory - ASUS - that's it - on the ASUS motherboard.

I have ZERO anti-virus - just base build of Win 7 64-bit Ultimate.

I will check into turning off anti-aliasing, and making sure it is set for Med-High vs. Ultra-high, whatever all of that means, but you would think a AMD x64 dual-core, with 4GB Corsair 800Mhz DDR2 memory would run this MUCH BETTER than old XP Pro 32-bit with 2GB of RAM - sounds like design flaw and maybe the game not knowing how to utilize the 64-bit + dual-core to its optimum. Even though it's PCI graphics - it is a decent card - don't slam me with any comments about 'mid-range' vs. 'super-$800-ultra-range' card - if it runs fine on XP 32-bit, with HALF the RAM, it should run TWICE AS GOOD on 64-bit Windows 7 ultimate, with TWICE the RAM!

Any help or comments appreciated - don't tell to upgrade the graphics card, since XP Pro works, as I said, "FANTASTIC" with this same game!

Seriously - don't slam me for PCI vs. PCIe either - of course I prefer PCIe. :-(

Really - THANK YOU - most of the time, you folks give WONDERFULLY helpful comments!!!


xp is dx9 i can run my gtx 260 on full settings and my old 8800 gt and 2 gig ram and q6600 cpu. the problem is with vista or 7 on dx10, now ive added to my 260 4 gig of ram 1066 mhz ocz reapers still on my q6600 cpu and still cant play on full settings but can run without as many crashes on high setting which is an improvement so ram does help, ive proven it. you can run on dx9 through vista and 7 and runs smooth, im not happy still and think that the 64 bit is an option cause you use the whole 4 gig rather than 3.5 and thats my next step and then maybe overclock the cpu from 2.4 to 3.0 if that fails 6 gig might flow better with the 64 bit os. thanx guys, all the posts saying get more ram has helped me to a point and im going to attemp to achieve better results through 64 bit then look at results b4 overclocking which will need some research and utube has a couple of vids that show clear demo of how it is done.
Anonymous
July 9, 2010 6:24:19 AM

MS Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit
CPU
Intel Core 2 Extreme QX9300 @ 2.53GHz 42 °C
Penryn 45nm Technology
RAM
8.0GB Dual-Channel DDR3 @ 666MHz (9-9-9-24)
Motherboard
CLEVO M980NU (Socket 479)
Graphics
Generic PnP Monitor @ 1920x1080
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 280M
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 280M
Hard Drives
488GB Seagate ST9500420AS ATA Device (Unknown Interface) 27 °C
488GB Seagate ST9500420AS ATA Device (Unknown Interface) 37 °C
488GB Seagate ST9500420AS ATA Device (Unknown Interface) 37 °C
Optical Drives
PIONEER BD-ROM BDCTD01RS ATA Device
Audio
Realtek High Definition Audio
thats my spec for my laptop and crysis lags like *** ay
July 9, 2010 1:43:03 PM

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