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Whitedog wrote:
> Here's the deal, I want to build a char that can run Baal loaded with
> mf with an insane amount of lag on a really slow computer. It may be
> impossible, but any ideas?
>
> It would also be nice if said build would employ a HF or a Prayer
> merc. I have an eth Kelpie and an Insight in an eth Colossus Voulge
> laying around.
Sounds to me like you wanna build a skelliemancer. They're great for safety
(get the biggest army you can, don't forget to max mages as well - they're
slow killers but they keep the heat away from you)., and a prayer merc is
great for these guys since they help keep the entire army alive.
As for MF, it depends on what you define as a lot of it. My skelliemancer
has 367MF form gear and charms, and that seems to work very nicely.
The biggest drawback to this build is that he's not the fastest killer
around. Baal runs do take some time for me 
Devast8or
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"Devast8or" <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
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> Whitedog wrote:
> > Here's the deal, I want to build a char that can run Baal loaded with
> > mf with an insane amount of lag on a really slow computer. It may be
> > impossible, but any ideas?
> >
> > It would also be nice if said build would employ a HF or a Prayer
> > merc. I have an eth Kelpie and an Insight in an eth Colossus Voulge
> > laying around.
>
> Sounds to me like you wanna build a skelliemancer. They're great for
safety
> (get the biggest army you can, don't forget to max mages as well - they're
> slow killers but they keep the heat away from you)., and a prayer merc is
> great for these guys since they help keep the entire army alive.
>
> As for MF, it depends on what you define as a lot of it. My skelliemancer
> has 367MF form gear and charms, and that seems to work very nicely.
>
> The biggest drawback to this build is that he's not the fastest killer
> around. Baal runs do take some time for me
While pure summoners work, they don't work with massive amounts of lag and a
slow comp. I'd barely be able to move with a screen full of skellies.
You'll notice if you ever see my necro, all he has is a golem because of
this. Minions bog things down very fast.
As far as the mf goes, my fire sorc packs about 550. Its hard to pull that
on another character type without sacrificing major amounts of damage
though. Its a shame the minions are fire immune, she rips though
everything. A pure lightning sorc would actually work against the throne
room and baal, but sadly teleporting isn't the easiest thing to do on my
computer.
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"Stephen van Ham" <svanham@xtra.co.nz> wrote in message
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> "Whitedog" <jroyer2@worldnet.att.net> had this idea for a movie:
>
> >As far as the mf goes, my fire sorc packs about 550. Its hard to pull
that
> >on another character type without sacrificing major amounts of damage
> >though. Its a shame the minions are fire immune, she rips though
> >everything. A pure lightning sorc would actually work against the throne
> >room and baal, but sadly teleporting isn't the easiest thing to do on my
> >computer.
>
> Understood on the teleporting part. That can indeed be tricky on a speed
or
> connection challenged PC.
And its really a bitch when you have both. 
> In that case, have you considered a pure lightning sorceress with maxed
block.
> Or even orb/chain lightning with maxed block? Introduce an insight stick
> into the mix if you have any mana problems (base energy is a good choice
for a
> block sorc in SC or HC), bearing in mind that CL is somewhat of a mana
> guzzler. Points spread tends to be enough strength for gear, and dex/vit
> tends to be somewhat even at end-game, with blocking maxed with a high
block
> shield such as an upped visceratuant or mosers, sanctuary, etc. "Rhyme"
in a
> grim shield, heater or luna works well also.
I've been experimenting with a lightning sorc in SP. Gloams have been an
issue, but I think I might be able to tele at least that much. Then again,
this isn't a char I'm really going to worry about XP with. It is a major
pain when the throne room is full of them. I'll have to give splitting it
with orb a try.
How many points are needed to make orb viable?
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"Stephen van Ham" <svanham@xtra.co.nz> wrote in message
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> "Whitedog" <jroyer2@worldnet.att.net> had this idea for a movie:
>
> >I've been experimenting with a lightning sorc in SP. Gloams have been an
> >issue, but I think I might be able to tele at least that much. Then
again,
> >this isn't a char I'm really going to worry about XP with. It is a major
> >pain when the throne room is full of them. I'll have to give splitting
it
> >with orb a try.
>
> >How many points are needed to make orb viable?
>
> I guess that's in the eye of the beholder. I run with it at around 16 or
18
> including items on my hydra sorceress (80+ points in the fire tree didn't
> leave much room), and that's workable in solo games, at least. I usually
aim
> to have at least 10 hard points in it by the beginning of hell, and play
it by
> ear from there.
>
> It's interesting that you mentioned lightning sorc, because my next
planned SC
> sorceress Illyrian will be lightning plus cold. Charged Bolt will be her
> primary lightning attack, but I might also pick up CL while I'm there,
> depending on how my preference for orb (and how much CM, specifically)
turns
> out for this one. Might be nice, though, since CL would get the double
> whammy synergy from maxed CB and lightning.
I experimented some more. A max black sorc works with Charged Bolt, but not
so much with CL. Its just too much of a mana hog. Ah, my sorcs never had
max block anyway.
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"Whitedog" <jroyer2@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
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>
> "Stephen van Ham" <svanham@xtra.co.nz> wrote in message
> newsot151hqrmbvsep6faheikbt0tr1hidd3k@4ax.com...
> > "Whitedog" <jroyer2@worldnet.att.net> had this idea for a movie:
> >
> > >I've been experimenting with a lightning sorc in SP. Gloams have been
an
> > >issue, but I think I might be able to tele at least that much. Then
> again,
> > >this isn't a char I'm really going to worry about XP with. It is a
major
> > >pain when the throne room is full of them. I'll have to give splitting
> it
> > >with orb a try.
> >
> > >How many points are needed to make orb viable?
> >
> > I guess that's in the eye of the beholder. I run with it at around 16
or
> 18
> > including items on my hydra sorceress (80+ points in the fire tree
didn't
> > leave much room), and that's workable in solo games, at least. I
usually
> aim
> > to have at least 10 hard points in it by the beginning of hell, and play
> it by
> > ear from there.
> >
> > It's interesting that you mentioned lightning sorc, because my next
> planned SC
> > sorceress Illyrian will be lightning plus cold. Charged Bolt will be
her
> > primary lightning attack, but I might also pick up CL while I'm there,
> > depending on how my preference for orb (and how much CM, specifically)
> turns
> > out for this one. Might be nice, though, since CL would get the double
> > whammy synergy from maxed CB and lightning.
>
> I experimented some more. A max black sorc works with Charged Bolt, but
not
> so much with CL. Its just too much of a mana hog. Ah, my sorcs never had
> max block anyway.
>
>
>
Even with an Insight stick? And how much mana did she have?
With around 6-800 Mana and an Insight Stick, I can't get my Sorc to run out
of Mana if I try. Barring Manaburners, of course.
The problem is that on a bad connection, its better to have to drink blues
and live than have mana and die all the time
short
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"short" <shorts@zoominternet.net> wrote in message
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>
> Even with an Insight stick? And how much mana did she have?
>
> With around 6-800 Mana and an Insight Stick, I can't get my Sorc to run
out
> of Mana if I try. Barring Manaburners, of course.
>
> The problem is that on a bad connection, its better to have to drink blues
> and live than have mana and die all the time
Well, I'm used to playing with the lag. The block would certainly help
against ranged attacks, but I've gotten pretty good at getting my merc to
eat those.
I don't know how much the insight would help, I haven't been able to get it
to work in SP.
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"Whitedog" <jroyer2@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
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>
> "short" <shorts@zoominternet.net> wrote in message
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> >
> > Even with an Insight stick? And how much mana did she have?
> >
> > With around 6-800 Mana and an Insight Stick, I can't get my Sorc to run
> out
> > of Mana if I try. Barring Manaburners, of course.
> >
> > The problem is that on a bad connection, its better to have to drink
blues
> > and live than have mana and die all the time
>
> Well, I'm used to playing with the lag. The block would certainly help
> against ranged attacks, but I've gotten pretty good at getting my merc to
> eat those.
>
> I don't know how much the insight would help, I haven't been able to get
it
> to work in SP.
>
>
Tell me how much mana she has and I can figure it out
My Tal's Sorc has just over 800 all geared up, and a whole lot less when not
I haven't tried it completely naked, but I can to see if it works. What
I've noticed when teleporting is that I'll lose the initial mana cost for
the first TP, and then my mana ball pretty much stays the same if I keep the
button pressed down. If I actually click repeatedly, I'll start gaining
some mana back.
short
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