Bad fps on a somewhat decent comp

[josh_rt]

My fps in counterstrike 1.6 keeps dropping, can someone tell me how to fix this?
My computer specs:
evga 8600 GT with the lastest drivers with lowest settings (0AA,0AF,high performance) - even tried overclocking it (it's @ 53C while playing cs)
pentiumD intel dualcore 2.8ghz - even tried overclocking it (60C while playing cs)
1gb of ram

when im looking at the sky or something i get 99 fps
when there are more than 2 ppl on my screen my fps drops to 80,
when there are smokes, flashes going off, or nades going off i get around 50

any tips on fixing this mess?
keep in mind cs 1.6 is a 9 year old game...

 

[josh_rt]

okay i found out i have a 300watt psu while this card needs 350


would underclocking the card help?

 

[shiftstealth]

no, it sounds like its having trouble rendering polygons? sounds like a cpu problem, intel pentium d isnt great, and cant keep up with the 8600gt. So the video card sets up the frames sends it to the cpu and it gets jammed. Not exact, but along those lines.

 

[shiftstealth]

try overclocking your cpu

 

[josh_rt]

my mobo wont allow overclocking thru bios :/

 

[shiftstealth]

oh fun, oem pc, download ntune.

 

[pr2thej]

2.8Gz cant handle CS? I cant believe that really.

Can you post up some specs about that PSU, that looks more of an issue.

 

[shiftstealth]

said it cant handle the 8600gt not that it cant handle cs. pentium d are bad cpus, its not a core 2 duo.

 

[josh_rt]

300 watt psu

 

[josh_rt]

my computer: http://support.gateway.com/s/PC/R/GTModels/5394/5394nv.shtml
+ an evga 8600 gt

 

[pr2thej]

Looks interesting...was tryna find some specs...

"There is a very well known problem with Bestec PSU's as used in eMachines and others. The power supply fails, putting out too much voltage, and
eventually killing the machine. Sometimes just the motherboard, other times
pretty much every component in the machine gets zapped. I looked at one
recently where even the hard disk and both optical drives were fried!

Unless you have a spare machine in which to test each individual part, I'm
afraid your PC is probably best considered as a lost cause."

From http://myreader.co.uk/msg/102016497.aspx

I can only assume that the PSU hasnt got the juice to power that 8600, coz i cant find the specs. But the fact that its a split 12v rail says it all i think. 8600GT looks for 350w as a guideline, 18A of 12v juice.

Thing is...what with this being a Gateway im not sure how easy it will be to swap out that piece of crap.

My recommendation: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817703018

If you want to go cheaper theres the Antec Earthwatts for a special offer of $35 at the mo which is amazing. Thing is its modular so you need to make sure you connect it properly. 2 rails of 17A juicyness, 1A shouldnt make a difference when you got 2 rails.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371005

 

[shiftstealth]

hmph interesting statement, about the psu, my friend has a emachines and we tried to put an 8600 in it and it would crap out and give artifacts after 10 mins of playing wow. i had a gateway and swapping out the psu gave me no problems at all.

 

[pr2thej]

erk!! 8600 maxed out on wow
I would imagine that would be down to the lack of quality testing that just adds £££ to the price of these budget PSU's.

I did a bit of further reading, josh dont go buying anything until you have measured the available space and confirmed that any PSU recommendations can fit in there.
If you dont like your money then you can always ring Gateway and ask for a better PSU.
Having said that, i know its a 9 yr old game or w/e but is dropping to 50fps really that much of a problem?

 

[shiftstealth]

cs players are fussy

 

[josh_rt]

especially competitive cs players.

 

[shiftstealth]

lols they all are.

 

[josh_rt]

okay i just bought a 500watt pc power and cooling psu which i heard are one of the most reliable and best psus

still do not get 100fps on cs on my 8600gt... still get fps drops

 

[josh_rt]

gpu graphic settings
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[nsimo86]

why are you setting your graphics settings through the nvidia control panel? In CS set the resolution to 1024x768, use openGL rendering, 16 bit color and in the multiplayer advanced tab set the smoke grenade setting to fastest. There is also a console command to set the FPS to 60 but I forgot it.

 

[gbh]

why are you setting your graphics settings through the nvidia control panel? In CS set the resolution to 1024x768, use openGL rendering, 16 bit color and in the multiplayer advanced tab set the smoke grenade setting to fastest. There is also a console command to set the FPS to 60 but I forgot it.

hit ` to bring up console and put fps_max 60

 

[gamerk316]

hit ` to bring up console and put fps_max 60

^^ Translation: Turn on V-sync

All that does is set the MAXIMUM FPS, not what the FPS is set to.

 

[josh_rt]

my goal: 100 FPS constant in COUNTERSTRIKE 1.6
what i'm working with: evga 8600GT with lastest drivers, Pentium D dualcore 2.8ghz, 2 GB of crucial ram, 500 watt PSU (pc power and cooling)
what i did so far: update drivers, make sure things arent overheating, cleanup some diskspace (30gb left out of 200gb), not run too many processes, defragmented, scanned for viruses, bought new psu , bought new ram, drivercleanup'ed previous display drivers, set graphic settings to performance, vsync off

 

[nsimo86]

why are you setting your graphics settings through the nvidia control panel? In CS set the resolution to 1024x768, use openGL rendering, 16 bit color and in the multiplayer advanced tab set the smoke grenade setting to fastest. There is also a console command to set the FPS to 60 but I forgot it.

did you even read this?

 

[pr2thej]

my goal: 100 FPS constant in COUNTERSTRIKE 1.6

but whyyyy? whats the notable difference between 60 and 100?

 

[gamerk316]

my goal: 100 FPS constant in COUNTERSTRIKE 1.6
what i'm working with: evga 8600GT with lastest drivers, Pentium D dualcore 2.8ghz, 2 GB of crucial ram, 500 watt PSU (pc power and cooling)
what i did so far: update drivers, make sure things arent overheating, cleanup some diskspace (30gb left out of 200gb), not run too many processes, defragmented, scanned for viruses, bought new psu , bought new ram, drivercleanup'ed previous display drivers, set graphic settings to performance, vsync off

My old comp had the same setup, only with a Pentium D 3.0 GHz.

Be happy if you can get 60+ steady. Your comp simply doesn't have the power to chug away at games, even at 1024x768.