Low FPS crysis 4870

[magus1]

Hello, I recently purchased a sapphire 4870 512 card and am only getting 10-25 fps @ 1440x900 with no aa or v sync. My system specs are:

Phenom 9500 @2.2GHZ
3GB DDR2 PC2-6400 240pin
720 GB (2 x 360) SATA 3G (3.0 Gb/sec)
600Watt PSU
ATI Saphhire 4870 512 MB


I see others saying they get 40+ fps with these kind of settings, Plz give your input

 

[pr2thej]

Coupla things. Most benches will show 4870 results on 4GB RAM and a faster CPU around 3.0GHz. Ofc if you are running 32 bit OS it doesnt make much difference anyway, save that it might run slightly faster in dual channel.

Also you got some PSU specs or is it generic?

Tried defrags / spyware / reinstall and patch and all that i assume.

 

[JeanLuc]

Try running it at high (DX9) settings rather then highest settings, the game is a killer. And yes you CPU is holding you back you might want to think about overclocking.

 

[magus1]

Here is the power supply.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182032

 

[magus1]

I am running Vista 32 bit, I can not over clock because its an HP motherboard.

I was thinking something is wrong somewhere because I was using a 9800 gt 1gb and only saw minimal increase in fps when getting this card.

 

[pr2thej]

ooooooh post mobo plx! Just wanna check the PCI's...

http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1349943&page=2
check that post for an answer on power as well, your PSU splits its 12v rail, and most of it will be "trapped" and not reaching your 4870 therefore your beast of a card is underpowered.

 

[gamerk316]

If you jumped from a 9800GT to a 4870 and didn't see a performance gain, then your CPU is almost certainly a bottleneck. The PSU is also a possiblity though.

 

[magus1]

is there anything to measure to see if the cards getting enough juice? I was using a 500 watt supply with my 9800..should I try using that one for the 4870?

 

[pr2thej]

Its more about the rails than the watts. i like banging on about PSUs anyway, i think theyre hawt. gamerk316 is probably more accurate, theres no way id put a 4870 in with my 9500.

Link that 500w jobby anyway, lets have a look at it.

 

[magus1]

also will ntune overclock my processor even though the mboard is oem? pr2, you have similar specs to my comp...how do you fair in crysis

 

[pr2thej]

from memory i get around 32 with most settings on high at 1600 x 1200

nothing wonderful but most certainly playable

 

[shiftstealth]

i had a 9500 phenom went from a 8800gt to a gtx 280 saw no performance gain at all. your cpu blows balls, i actually went out and bought a athlon 7750 and put in in the same socket. also my mobo only supported hypertransport 2.0. im building a new pc and selling the old one to my brother now, it was a gateway gt5674 is that the model you have?

 

[magus1]

I have an hp...i am going to try using ntune tonight and see if that helps. my motherboard is an ecs mcp61pm-hm.

 

[magus1]

Well the other power supply is a 550 watt and actually has less output than my current

 

[magus1]

Its an Antec TP II

But honestly I don't think it is the power supply. Im getting same problems with far cry 2. Can someone please give me some more input

 

[pr2thej]

Dont worry about the watts, the Antec is actually better by a looooong way.
Quality counts for a lot with PSU's and Rosewill are a bag of sheit whereas Antec are one of the finer manufacturers.

Overclock your CPU but dont take it above 2500 unless you know what your doing.

Generally though you are just plastering over the cracks, i would recommend that if this is a gaming PC you look to getting a cheap dual instead. You can get this cpu to 3.3ish with no noticeable loss considering it has 2 fewer cores. If thats too much then pick up a Brisbane for $50 or so.
You can eBay that quad, plenty of suckers out there that will buy one without researching

 

[magus1]

How do you think a phenom ii would fair me?

 

[magus1]

How can I be certain it is indeed my processor and not the card?

 

[magus1]

Found this on AMD's forums, this guys rig is very similar to mine.

Hey everyone I just made the switch over to ATI and bought a Sapphire 4870 512mb. I previously had an EVGA 8800 gt and was able to play FC2 on max settings @ 1440x900 with a very playable framerate. However, after installing my 4870 I get probably half the framerate with identical settings. Shouldn't the 4870 be able to eat this game for lunch? My specs are as follows.

Athlon x2 6000+ @ 3.0ghz

6gb ddr800

500gb WD HDD

550 wt Rosewill PSU

Sapphire HD4870 512mb


anymore input?

 

[jerseygamer]

Hello, I recently purchased a sapphire 4870 512 card and am only getting 10-25 fps @ 1440x900 with no aa or v sync. My system specs are:

Phenom 9500 @2.2GHZ
3GB DDR2 PC2-6400 240pin
720 GB (2 x 360) SATA 3G (3.0 Gb/sec)
600Watt PSU
ATI Saphhire 4870 512 MB


I see others saying they get 40+ fps with these kind of settings, Plz give your input

All of these suggestions and nobody seams to care that the OP has a CPU that is bottlenecking his GPU. That Phenom is great for proping up your desk or holding down important papers. The new P2s @ 3.0 will do you fine. Just about any current 3.0ish will do you fine. Anything less is and will bottleneck a 4870 even at the OPs resolution.

 

[jerseygamer]

Found this on AMD's forums, this guys rig is very similar to mine.

Hey everyone I just made the switch over to ATI and bought a Sapphire 4870 512mb. I previously had an EVGA 8800 gt and was able to play FC2 on max settings @ 1440x900 with a very playable framerate. However, after installing my 4870 I get probably half the framerate with identical settings. Shouldn't the 4870 be able to eat this game for lunch? My specs are as follows.

Athlon x2 6000+ @ 3.0ghz

6gb ddr800

500gb WD HDD

550 wt Rosewill PSU

Sapphire HD4870 512mb


anymore input?

FC2 has alot of problems. It doesnt like most drivers and it hates ATI atm. Its not you its that super poor release of a game. I have already put mine away as it refuses to run decent on 2 machines.

 

[pr2thej]

All of these suggestions and everyone has said the OP's CPU sucks

Fixed -_-

 

[magus1]

Thank you, I am RMAing the card, sapphire said the cpu should be fine....but if the replacement does not work I'll probably get a phenom ii. I'll let you all know how it goes. Thanks for the advice.

 

[magus1]

Well I messed around a whole lot updated bios/motherboard drivers, installed 2.1. Getting 25-45 @1440x900 very high all. Is this along normal lines?

 

[magus1]

When I said I updated, I at same time used the tlb fix for first time and pushed cpu to 2.4 on top of that. Frames jumped up quite a bit but not what I expected. I then tested without the cpu overclock, frames went back down to single digits. No matter what the resolution, things stayed the same.

I plan on getting a phenom ii this weekend and see how that goes. Hopefully this fixes all of my issues. If not I'm going to build an intel rig. Last chance AMD!!