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January 29, 2005 11:53:52 PM

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In my computer I am having one Administrator account , one limited account
and visitors account. (created in place of guest account). Now I find that
even from limited account and visitors account I can access files created in
Administrators account via c:\documents and settings. As I would like to
keep my documents in Administrators account private, is there any way to set
up files in my document so that accept administrator, no one else can have
access to my documents.
TIA.

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Anonymous
January 29, 2005 11:53:53 PM

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First, make sure that the other accounts are limited.
Second, in the administrator account, log on, change the password (you can
change it to the same thing if need be) then there should be a screen asking
if you want to make its files and folders private. Click YES.

--
-Tony Norman


"newbie" <newbie16@invalid.com> wrote in message
news:eaGoChhBFHA.3616@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> In my computer I am having one Administrator account , one limited account
> and visitors account. (created in place of guest account). Now I find that
> even from limited account and visitors account I can access files created
> in
> Administrators account via c:\documents and settings. As I would like to
> keep my documents in Administrators account private, is there any way to
> set
> up files in my document so that accept administrator, no one else can have
> access to my documents.
> TIA.
>
>
Anonymous
January 29, 2005 11:53:53 PM

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newbie wrote:
> In my computer I am having one Administrator account , one limited account
> and visitors account. (created in place of guest account). Now I find that
> even from limited account and visitors account I can access files created in
> Administrators account via c:\documents and settings. As I would like to
> keep my documents in Administrators account private, is there any way to set
> up files in my document so that accept administrator, no one else can have
> access to my documents.
> TIA.
>
>


HOW TO Create and Configure User Accounts in Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;279783

HOW TO Set, View, Change, or Remove File and Folder Permissions
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;q308418

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Anonymous
January 29, 2005 11:53:53 PM

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newbie wrote:
> In my computer I am having one Administrator account , one limited account
> and visitors account. (created in place of guest account). Now I find that
> even from limited account and visitors account I can access files created in
> Administrators account via c:\documents and settings. As I would like to
> keep my documents in Administrators account private, is there any way to set
> up files in my document so that accept administrator, no one else can have
> access to my documents.
> TIA.
>
>


Under normal circumstances, you can safely convert the partition to
NTFS whenever desired, without having to format the partition and
reinstall everything. As always when performing any serious changes,
back up any important data before proceeding, just in case. A little
advance preparation is also strongly recommended, so you can avoid any
performance hits caused by the default cluster size:

Converting FAT32 to NTFS in Windows
http://www.aumha.org/a/ntfscvt.htm

Once you've converted to a securable file system:

HOW TO Create and Configure User Accounts in Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;279783

HOW TO Set, View, Change, or Remove File and Folder Permissions
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;q308418

--

Bruce Chambers

Help us help you:
http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

You can have peace. Or you can have freedom. Don't ever count on having
both at once. - RAH
January 30, 2005 1:41:59 AM

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I did as advised by you, but their was no screen asking me to make my files
and folders private. Mine is windows xp without sp2.
What should I do now?
TIA.

"Tony Norman" <Tony Norman@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:o VOid6hBFHA.3644@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
> First, make sure that the other accounts are limited.
> Second, in the administrator account, log on, change the password (you can
> change it to the same thing if need be) then there should be a screen
asking
> if you want to make its files and folders private. Click YES.
>
> --
> -Tony Norman
>
>
> "newbie" <newbie16@invalid.com> wrote in message
> news:eaGoChhBFHA.3616@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> > In my computer I am having one Administrator account , one limited
account
> > and visitors account. (created in place of guest account). Now I find
that
> > even from limited account and visitors account I can access files
created
> > in
> > Administrators account via c:\documents and settings. As I would like to
> > keep my documents in Administrators account private, is there any way to
> > set
> > up files in my document so that accept administrator, no one else can
have
> > access to my documents.
> > TIA.
> >
> >
>
>
January 30, 2005 10:06:28 AM

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HI Bruce,
What you are telling me is, if I am using FAT32, there is no way, I can keep
My folders and file private, even in administrators account, from other
limited users of same computers. That means as far as FAT32 is concerned
there is no privacy between administrator and limited account. Right?
Regards.

"Bruce Chambers" <bruce_a_chambers@h0tmail.com> wrote in message
news:eKmWHQjBFHA.1392@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> newbie wrote:
> > In my computer I am having one Administrator account , one limited
account
> > and visitors account. (created in place of guest account). Now I find
that
> > even from limited account and visitors account I can access files
created in
> > Administrators account via c:\documents and settings. As I would like to
> > keep my documents in Administrators account private, is there any way to
set
> > up files in my document so that accept administrator, no one else can
have
> > access to my documents.
> > TIA.
> >
> >
>
>
> Under normal circumstances, you can safely convert the partition to
> NTFS whenever desired, without having to format the partition and
> reinstall everything. As always when performing any serious changes,
> back up any important data before proceeding, just in case. A little
> advance preparation is also strongly recommended, so you can avoid any
> performance hits caused by the default cluster size:
>
> Converting FAT32 to NTFS in Windows
> http://www.aumha.org/a/ntfscvt.htm
>
> Once you've converted to a securable file system:
>
> HOW TO Create and Configure User Accounts in Windows XP
> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;279783
>
> HOW TO Set, View, Change, or Remove File and Folder Permissions
> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;q308418
>
> --
>
> Bruce Chambers
>
> Help us help you:
> http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
> http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
>
> You can have peace. Or you can have freedom. Don't ever count on having
> both at once. - RAH
Anonymous
January 30, 2005 10:06:29 AM

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"newbie" <newbie16@invalid.com> wrote in message
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> HI Bruce,
> What you are telling me is, if I am using FAT32, there is no way, I
> can keep My folders and file private, even in administrators account,
> from other limited users of same computers. That means as far as
> FAT32 is concerned there is no privacy between administrator and
> limited account. Right? Regards.

Right.

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Anonymous
January 30, 2005 3:03:48 PM

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newbie wrote:
> HI Bruce,
> What you are telling me is, if I am using FAT32, there is no way, I can keep
> My folders and file private, even in administrators account, from other
> limited users of same computers.


Well, there's no way using WinXP's native tools. I suppose that you
could purchase and install some sort of 3rd party encryption solution.
A cumbersome method, at best, and on fraught with peril, should you
lose/forget your password(s).


> That means as far as FAT32 is concerned
> there is no privacy between administrator and limited account. Right?
>


Right, The FAT32 file system has *NO* security capabilities.


--

Bruce Chambers

Help us help you:
http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

You can have peace. Or you can have freedom. Don't ever count on having
both at once. - RAH
January 30, 2005 4:39:45 PM

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"Frank Saunders, MS-MVP" <franksaunders@mvps.org> wrote in message
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> "newbie" <newbie16@invalid.com> wrote in message
> news:o zo7yBnBFHA.3616@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl
> > HI Bruce,
> > What you are telling me is, if I am using FAT32, there is no way, I
> > can keep My folders and file private, even in administrators account,
> > from other limited users of same computers. That means as far as
> > FAT32 is concerned there is no privacy between administrator and
> > limited account. Right? Regards.
>
> Right.
>
> --
> Frank Saunders, MS-MVP, IE/OE
> Please respond in Newsgroup only. Do not send email
> http://www.fjsmjs.com
> Protect your PC
> http://www.microsoft.com./athome/security/protect/defau...
> http://defendingyourmachine.blogspot.com/
>
>
That means only alternative is to convert to NTFS. Right.
Thanks.
Anonymous
January 30, 2005 4:39:46 PM

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"newbie" <newbie16@invalid.com> wrote in message
news:%23nujhMqBFHA.4004@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl
> "Frank Saunders, MS-MVP" <franksaunders@mvps.org> wrote in message
> news:o CUtKOnBFHA.2032@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>> "newbie" <newbie16@invalid.com> wrote in message
>> news:o zo7yBnBFHA.3616@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl
>>> HI Bruce,
>>> What you are telling me is, if I am using FAT32, there is no way, I
>>> can keep My folders and file private, even in administrators
>>> account, from other limited users of same computers. That means as
>>> far as FAT32 is concerned there is no privacy between administrator
>>> and limited account. Right? Regards.
>>
>> Right.
>>
>> --
>> Frank Saunders, MS-MVP, IE/OE
>>
> That means only alternative is to convert to NTFS. Right.
> Thanks.

That's just one of the reasons to use NTFS.

--
Frank Saunders, MS-MVP, IE/OE
Please respond in Newsgroup only. Do not send email
http://www.fjsmjs.com
Protect your PC
http://www.microsoft.com./athome/security/protect/defau...
http://defendingyourmachine.blogspot.com/
Anonymous
January 30, 2005 4:39:46 PM

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newbie wrote:

> That means only alternative is to convert to NTFS. Right.
> Thanks.
>
>


Personally, I wouldn't even consider using FAT32 when NTFS is an
option. FAT32 has no security capabilities, no compression
capabilities, no fault tolerance, and a lot of wasted hard drive space
on volumes larger than 8 Gb in size. But your computing needs may
vary, and there is no hard and fast answer.

To answer your questions without getting too technical is
difficult, but has been handled quite well by Alex Nichol in the
article here:

FAT & NTFS File Systems in Windows XP
http://www.aumha.org/a/ntfs.htm

Somewhat more technical information is here:

Limitations of the FAT32 File System in Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/directory/article.asp?ID=k...;en-us;Q314463

Choosing Between File Systems
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/treeview/default.asp?u...

NTFS file system
http://www.digit-life.com/articles/ntfs/

--

Bruce Chambers

Help us help you:
http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

You can have peace. Or you can have freedom. Don't ever count on having
both at once. - RAH
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