Flight Sim X Sp1 and 2 and My pc

fusion2810

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So I just ordered this rig any tips or advice on it and what do you think the performance will be on FX??
Thanks for ur input.




MOTHERBOARD: ASUS M2N-SLI Deluxe Motherboard

CPU: AMD Athlon 64 x2 6000+ 3.0 GHz Dual Core Processor

RAM: 4GB 2 x 2GB DIMM DDR2 PC2 5300 5400 667MHZ 4 GB Go AM2

vIDEO: Galaxy GeForce 9600 GT OC 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card 104


HD: Western Digital WD3200AVJS 320 GB SATA II Hard Drive

POWERSUPPLY: LOGISYS Computer PS575XBK 575W ATX12V SLI Ready Power Supply - Retail

Monitor 22in Wide Screen LCD

Windows XP SP3
 

pr2thej

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Look at the AMD 7750 instead, its a slower clock speed but dont let that fool you as it is faster clock for clock compared to the 6000, and it overclocks higher as well.
I think the 7750 is slightly cheaper as well by a few quid. If you ordered it though then we are talking a relatively small improvement so dont worry too much.

Dont know much about Logisys PSU's but im guessing you tried to save money here which is never a good move. Also shoulda gone with Vista 64 bit, XP is outdated now.
 

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Thanks for the advice. I really wasn't worried about the price on the PSU..maybe I was just fooled by the SLI logo and the 575W on the box. Ive never had a problem with the few psu's Ive had but ur right its better to be safe than sorry. As far as XP3 and Vista 64. Will I have any compatibility issues with the change over? I also heard a lot of war stories about vista...are they also outdated now(the issues)? Again thanks for your reply.
 

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Yes they are outdated now, the problems you refer to concern the lack of 64 bit applications / drivers / installers available at Vista launch. Support is now virtually 100% there are a few erronous apps out there but FSX certainly isnt one of them.

My picks for PSU brands are Corsair, Antec and PC P&C
By the way i would invest a bit more into your GPU as well. Its easy to say spend more to get better performance...i have a feeling that a 9600 will struggle though.
What resolution do you intend to play at?

Heres some benchmarks for you
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/GeForce-9600-overclock,2028-18.html
http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/gaming-graphics-charts-q3-2008/compare,794.html?prod%5B2067%5D=on&prod%5B2093%5D=on

and a thread about it
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/243202-33-flight-simulator-video-card

If you hadnt ordered already i think i would actually suggest looking at an Intel C2D setup with a big fat overclocked CPU. But....well dont expect amazing with the above but you should manage 30fps i should think.
 

pat mcgroin

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for the P/S have a look at this for some helpful info.
http://nvidia.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/nvidia.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=2003&p_created=1166607492&p_sid=dfMthm_i&p_accessibility=0&p_redirect=&p_lva=&p_sp=cF9zcmNoPTEmcF9zb3J0X2J5PSZwX2dyaWRzb3J0PSZwX3Jvd19jbnQ9MTUsMTUmcF9wcm9kcz0yJnBfY2F0cz01OCZwX3B2PTEuMiZwX2N2PTEuNTgmcF9zZWFyY2hfdHlwZT1hbnN3ZXJzLnNlYXJjaF9ubCZwX3BhZ2U9MSZwX3NlYXJjaF90ZXh0PXBvd2Vy&p_li=&p_topview=1

As for the rest of your setup I think you are basically in good shape.
I run a AMD X2 at 3.15G and a 8800GTX with all settings pretty well maxed.
Going from a 7900GS to the 8800 didnt make a huge difference but did help.
Vista doesnt seem to make a difference to me as Ive had it on both.
Vista offers DX10 but flight sim isnt optimized for it so you will notice some annomillies.

As stated above it is cpu intensive and my going from 2.8 to 3.1G made a difference and going from 2 to 4G memory made a big difference also, so Vista64 with its ability to address more memory could be the way to go.
I cant say for sure as Im running V32 but not waiting for the HDD has to be better.

As with XP be sure to turn off all background tasks to ensure your computers full attention and I think you will be fine.
 

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Pat, i found out the other day that you can use any Vista 64 .iso and your 32 bit install key to get Vista 64 on your system. Theres a thread on it in the Vista forums.
Havent tried it yet, im waiting to get my hands on my Dads external HDD.

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pat mcgroin

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Yeah Im going to do that at some point.
Problem is that I have a corporate ver. of vista that doesnt require registration so I have to see how it works with that.
That and I need to pick up another HDD cause I dont want to screw with my current setup.
Its working great in dual boot and I dont want the hassle.
I have 2 externals but dont want to put a OP sys on them as it will slow it way down and defeat any gains 64 bit would offer.
Im also considering some system upgrades starting with a new MB so I guess Ill be doing a reinstall anyway at some point.
 

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the game itself recommends 3.6ghz processor and if you want to play maxed i'd look at getting a cpu that will oc well imo.

i'm bottlenecked badly by my cpu and even small oc's make a difference.
 

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Hey buddy I have been searching and building and writing these formus for FSX for quite a while. I love that game, but it is almost impossible to run everything on max with 30fps.

I have a Q9550 OCed to 3.83Ghz plus a GTX 260 Black Edition Oced to 700 core and 1200 mem as well as 4GB memory.

To my surprise the game still runs at about 15-25fps on the highest settings. When I went from an E6600 2.4Ghz to my Q9550 I only notice about a 4 frame increase if that. Also when I went from my 8800GT to my GTX 260, I didn't notice any difference. The biggest difference I noticed was when I went from 2GB of Mem to 4GB. That was about a 10 frame increase. So I use to have to play on medium to high settings and now I can play on ultra high with about 30fps. But if I try to manually increase the settings higher I drop to about 15fps. It is sooooo frustrating and I am not sure what PC can run that flawlessly. The designers of the game and some spec sheets actually say that the 8800GTS is the best for that game. It outperforms every other card even my GTX 260. http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/gaming-graphics-charts-q3-2008/Microsoft-Flight-Simulator-X-SP2,784.html

I thought this was so stupid and its not about the best card on the market or card speed anymore, but what card works for what game the best. Also, if you go SLI with your card FSX actually hates SLI and you will lose a lot of performance. Search for my threads. I have left a lot and a lot of good stuff and have done a lot of research already for you. Hope that helps. Very soon I will be testing FSX on a super computer. It will be 8GB ram, Core i7 965 <(something like that. the best one out there) which is factory OCed to 3.75Ghz, Raid 0, or a 10000 raptor drive with a 9800GT. I may try my card just to see if that makes a difference. Good luck.
 

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Wow, You need to reinstall or something. I can play fsx maxed out @ 30fps with the rig in my sig... all sliders, everything. not just ultra high, everything.