New Every 2 - should I max out the $100 credit?

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"U RIKA kaka" <asteamcleanerisnecess@ire.ya> wrote in message
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> I lost my Audiovox 95xx a while back and my new every 2 is coming up.
> Audiovox 8600 is $80 and the 8900 is $100, etc. I'd like to get a
> phone with a camera for the novelty of it But Verizon is offering buy
> one get one free on a number of $50 models. I don't know what to do.
> If you had a $100 credit, which phone would you get either within or
> over the limit?
>
> TIA

Personally, for me, neither. I have had a credit for NE2 for 4 years, and
just buy phones I like on sale, or from ebay, and activate them (onlin) on
my existing verizon account.

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Roger Binns wrote:
> U RIKA kaka wrote:
>
>>I lost my Audiovox 95xx a while back and my new every 2 is coming up.
>>Audiovox 8600 is $80 and the 8900 is $100, etc. I'd like to get a phone
>>with a camera for the novelty of it But Verizon is offering buy one get
>>one free on a number of $50 models. I don't know what to do. If you
>>had a $100 credit, which phone would you get either within or over the
>>limit?
>
>
> ETF is $175 so if you get a phone you can sell for at least that
> amount on eBay you are even. If you are looking for the best
> bargain, get the phone where there is the greatest difference in
> price between eBay and VZW.
>
> Also IMHO stay away from Audiovox. The current generation of camera
> phones aren't really worth it.
>
> Roger
>
>
wow. Thanks for both of your advisements.

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U RIKA kaka wrote:
> ETF?

Early Termination Fee. The amount you have to pay if you want to
break your contract.

Roger

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"dr.wireMORE" <dr.wireMORE@VZW-MidWESTma.com> wrote in message
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> While I've heard the caution about Audiovox as well.... the 8900 is
a
> tri-mode, and we haven't had any complaints.
>
> However, as you thought: get the most phone you can for the lowest
price.
> Alternatively, considering the rebates and NE2, get the most phone
you can
> afford.
>
> Just a thought: if you do get a new phone, and then cancel, they
may ask
> for the phone back, since the EFT is not to cover the phone subsidy.
WHY:
> you ask: even if you furnish your own phone with a new contract, the
EFT
> applies. If we think of ourselves as "fair", it would be dishonest
to get a
> subsidized phone, and then cancel. Let your conscious guide you.
>
> the dr.

Please take this in the way I mean it, just in case it is conveyed
wrong.(no disrespect intended) Verizon has no power over me if I
supply my own equipment for install or for hand held or squat. I and
the original poster would not need a "contract" if the service was
complete with my ownership of the phone. In example: I always buy my
phones and pay the install price for the car kits. If I want to leave
in 1 day or 1 year that is my option since I would be doing Verizon a
favor by paying for their cellular service, I would not allow any
Verizon employee to give me or talk me into a contract term under
those conditions.

Maybe I am reading your reply incorrect? If so please elaborate. It
has been a long day and I am heading to the watering hole for a needed
cocktail :-)

Elector

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"Quick" <dhorwitz@NOSPAMcisco.com> wrote in message
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> Elector wrote:
> > "dr.wireMORE" <dr.wireMORE@VZW-MidWESTma.com> wrote in message
> > news:EtCAc.25495$eH1.11902177@newssvr28.news.prodigy.com...
> >> While I've heard the caution about Audiovox as well.... the 8900
is a
> >> tri-mode, and we haven't had any complaints.
> >>
> >> However, as you thought: get the most phone you can for the
lowest
> >> price. Alternatively, considering the rebates and NE2, get the
most
> >> phone you can afford.
>
> Fine.
>
> >> Just a thought: if you do get a new phone, and then cancel, they
> >> may ask for the phone back, since the EFT is not to cover the
phone
> >> subsidy. WHY: you ask: even if you furnish your own phone with a
new
> >> contract, the EFT applies. If we think of ourselves as "fair",
it
> >> would be dishonest to get a subsidized phone, and then cancel.
Let
> >> your conscious guide you.
>
> What?!?! VZW contracts include an ETF. Yes, the ETF *is* primarily
> to cover the equipment subsidy. I suppose it's intent to reduce
churn
> is a close second and maybe equivalent.
>
> VZW requires a contract (minimum 1yr.) to establish new service.
> Whether you supply your own equipment or not. You can't possibly
> draw any conclusions about the ETF's purpose from this! Try this:
> My guess is that *way* more than 99% of new customers buy equipment
> when establishing an account. There is no way to justify the
overhead
> of a special contract for a fractional percentage point of their
customers.
> (Certainly a contract term of more than 1 month would be required to
> cover the administrative costs of establishing a new account --
credit
> check, billing setup, contract and new customer brochures, vmail
setup,
> etc.)
>
> "Fair" has nothing to do with VZW's contracts and offers. They will
> have no problem with anyone taking full advantage of anything they
> officially offer. Yeesh... where did you come up with this one?...
> "Let your conscious guide you." By the way, my conscience works
> whether I'm concious or not -
>
> > Please take this in the way I mean it, just in case it is conveyed
> > wrong.(no disrespect intended) Verizon has no power over me if I
> > supply my own equipment for install or for hand held or squat.
>
> O brother... Yes, VZW *does* have the power to not offer you
> service if you don't agree to their terms. It is true that they
have
> no power to force you to buy their service.
>
> > I and the original poster would not need a "contract" if the
service was
> > complete with my ownership of the phone.
>
> Wrong.
>
> > In example: I always buy my phones and pay the install price for
> > the car kits. If I want to leave in 1 day or 1 year that is my
option
> > since I would be doing Verizon a favor by paying for their
cellular
> > service, I would not allow any Verizon employee to give me or
> > talk me into a contract term under those conditions.
>
> Let me guess... this is a *hypothetical* example. You actually did
> get a contract the first time you got service (or it was with the
company
> before VZW bought them).
>
> > Maybe I am reading your reply incorrect? If so please elaborate.
It
> > has been a long day and I am heading to the watering hole for a
needed
> > cocktail :-)
>
> Both you and wiremore have become delerious at the same time.
> If you are in the same geographical area I would be a bit concerned
> about airborn toxins....
>
> -Quick
>
>

The Dr. I know not where he resides. I am in New York.
The first time I had service it was with Cellular One (ATC) 403
customer when cellular first came out. Had the NEC bag phone (Still do
in the cellar) and that god awful bulky flips after that (Motorola)
and still have them in the cellar.
When I jumped to Bell Atlantic/Nynex or their first named service had
no contract. My phone was simply set to the "A" side from the "B"
side.

I purchased a plan many years later for 1 year to get the unlimited
nights and weekends but the phones and car kits have been mine all
along.
I have been on a month to month for many years, never had to pay any
ETF and Verizon has/had no choice in the matter. My equipment not
theirs, my invoices have never been late, had international calling
when others did not because of my credit and payment history etc.

So I hope that the Dr. is drinking at the same watering hole as
myself, or breathing the same air he would be great company! ha ha

Elector