D@mn Doom3 no 98 support?

Planet Doom is reporting that D3 will only run on Windows 2000 and XP. Huh, peeps with 98se and ME can't play? Somebody tell me this isn't true.

BTW, did THG undergo some changes? The fonts are different and I don't like it. I didn't change it, what happened?

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Win98SE<P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by Coyote on 07/28/04 12:08 PM.</EM></FONT></P>

Hah, I knew you were a necrophile. Now there's proof from your own post! (raping after killing)

Mobile XP 2600+ (11X200)
Abit NF7-S v 2.0
Maxtor 60GB ATA 133 7200RPM
512MB Corsair Twinx 3200LL
BBA 9800 Pro
Enermax Noisetaker 420 watts
Win98SE

"what is strange is, that the alpha ran in win98se."

Yeah, that is strange. Also 29% of consumers run 98 versus 38% for XP. Rounding up, that's a 45%/55% split. Why disenfranchise 45% of consumers?

Perhaps "no support" just means no tech calls or game patches for 98se. But it'll still run it.

Mobile XP 2600+ (11X200)
Abit NF7-S v 2.0
Maxtor 60GB ATA 133 7200RPM
512MB Corsair Twinx 3200LL
BBA 9800 Pro
Enermax Noisetaker 420 watts
Win98SE

Let's face it... Windows 98 is on the way out. It's a hard fact of life, but exactly how long should we expect developers to keep writing drivers / software for an OS that is already 5 years old?

Every new consumer computer purchased comes with Windows XP. Future hardware will have no driver support for Win98... it's already gone for 95... so 98 won't be too far behind. Why anyone would want to build a modern computer and then 'cripple' it with 98 I'll never know. Even Windows 2000 is vastly superior.

I know it would be nice to cling to 98 for another 20 years, but my God man... let it go.

<font color=red> If you design software that is fool-proof, only a fool will want to use it. </font color=red>

Link <A HREF="http://news.com.com/2100-1016_3-5121458.html?tag=nefd_top" target="_new">http://news.com.com/2100-1016_3-5121458.html?tag=nefd_top</A>

Note win XP was found on just 6% of machines in the office too.

Mobile XP 2600+ (11X200)
Abit NF7-S v 2.0
Maxtor 60GB ATA 133 7200RPM
512MB Corsair Twinx 3200LL
BBA 9800 Pro
Enermax Noisetaker 420 watts
Win98SE

You completely missed the fact that I said Windows <b>2000</b> and not XP.

Slow bootup and shutdown times? Hmmmm... 30 seconds isn't all that slow last time I checked. My work machine boots even faster... the only reason it takes as long as it does is because I have my hard drive hooked up to the Promise controller rather than the onboard and it takes a few extra seconds to scan for hard drives.

I didn't say anything about increased speed. What I have been touting is increased stability, vastly superior memory management and a much better file system.

See above. You could also 'borrow' a Windows <b>2000</b> CD and you'd still be better off than you are with 98. I'm not talking about huge increases in FPS here... I'm talking better overall stability, etc. Besides, how many FPS do you need to run a BSOD?

Again, 98 support is on it's way out. Doom 3 is the first of what I'm sure will be many titles to support 2000 / XP only. Yeah, it sucks if you don't want to change... but you have to realize that sooner or later you'll have to. Better sooner than later IMO.

<font color=red> If you design software that is fool-proof, only a fool will want to use it. </font color=red>

LOL, I put 98SE on every machine I sell. That's right, every single one. I do this because it's fast and doesn't require huge amounts of RAM to run right. A 98SE system with 128MB of RAM will run circles around the same machine with XP and 256MB.

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<font color=red>Only a place as big as the internet could be home to an ego as large as Crashman's!</font color=red>

The majority of people I deal with want the cheapest system possible, MY target price is $200! If they HAD $400 to spend, they'd buy a Dell. And when they ask about XP, I laugh at them, saying "You'll need at least 256MB to make it run right, and 512MB if you want it to perform well, buy this now and I'll upgrade you when you get more money".

MY major competitor is a local shop that builds XP systems with as little as 64MB of RAM! People come to me saying "It takes 10 minutes to boot and even then takes a lifetime to load programs". And that's when I REALLY laugh "OH, I see you bought it from THOSE guys. I'll upgrade it for you, but it's going to cost FULL PRICE, no discounts for their customers". Hehe.

<font color=blue>Only a place as big as the internet could be home to a hero as big as Crashman!</font color=blue>
<font color=red>Only a place as big as the internet could be home to an ego as large as Crashman's!</font color=red>

I never tried 2000. What happened to me is that a certain game I played wouldn't work with ATI's Windows 9x driver, but did with ATI's XP driver, and I had a copy of XP, so I switched. Since I already had 512MB of RAM, the slowdown was small. But later I installed 1GB of RAM to make my video encoding faster.

<font color=blue>Only a place as big as the internet could be home to a hero as big as Crashman!</font color=blue>
<font color=red>Only a place as big as the internet could be home to an ego as large as Crashman's!</font color=red>

Actually, I was wrong on one count. Doom 3 isn't the first title to support only 2000 / XP. Microsoft Office 2003 will only install on those operating systems.



<font color=red> If you design software that is fool-proof, only a fool will want to use it. </font color=red>

Like I said in my first post:

Infact, ill expand the shot/killed/raped senario to include WinME users


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STFU

sorry, it's too late. The senario has been expanded!

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finally, FACTS.
--*Pubic Service Announcement
That settles it - All users who are pro-Win98 will be shot / killed / raped (in that order).

Thank you
--*End Service Announcement

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STFU

I just finished "hunting" 98 (original) cd kee, had to install the guy's P2-350 puter with something legit for business use and had an OEM CD on the shelf, but lost the paperwork for it, so took about half an hour!!! (that is a long time for finding something these days to hunt the right one, hehe. So, yeah, there are a few of us using that legendary OS.


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Oh, yeah, an excellent idea, how didn't I see that one? I will immediately implement your suggestion because I am dying to see the neighbors' kids to trip over it

PS: I have XP CD on the shelf waiting for a good excuse to be put into PC, that's why I was wondering about putting it into the lawn mower (at least some use



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Oh, why didn't you tell me that in the begining? Now I feel like a fool

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