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May 4, 2003 6:07:56 PM

Raidmax Model 208B(Black) 10-bay Case w/ 350W Power Supply Retail <b>28.00</b>

Lite On 52x24x52 Black CDRW Model LTR-52246 OEM <b>49.00</b>

LITE-ON XJ-HD166S 16X DVD ROM Drive BLACK- OEM <b>33.00</b>

MITSUMI D359M3 BLACK FDD 1.44MB 3.5INCH - OEM <b>11.00</b>

Maxtor 40GB 7200RPM Hard Drive Model # 6E040L0 OEM, DRIVE ONLY <b>66.00</b> (I have another 20GB drive that will have WIX XP and office XP on it, the 40GB is for storage only)

(2x)GEIL 256MB PC-2700 <b>60.00</b>

KDS 17" XF-7T XFLAT Monitor Retail DotPitch:.20mm <b>129.00</b>

ABIT NF7-S (was going to get the 8RDA+, but decided I want S-ATA) <b>125.00</b>

Athlon XP 2000+ <b>65.00</b>

ATI OEM RADEON 9500 128MB DDR Black BULK <b>155.00</b>

Total b4 shipping from newegg is 721.00, w/shipping it is 760.00

so I could get a little more harddrive space, but not sure I need it. My main goal is to be able to play Delta Force Black hawk down well, and some of the newer DX9 stuff that is on tap in the near future. I also really want a BLACK pc, cause I have never had one before and I like black. A better HSF for the CPU is going to be needed as well. So that eats into my 800 dollar budget too. Keep that in mind when you post suggestions. I appreciate it guys.






Just a computer junky

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May 4, 2003 7:02:15 PM

* I'm noticing a lot of folks recommending against using the black pcb version of this 9500. Check the NewEgg user reviews. Between the black and red PCBs it appears as though the red PCB is the better choice.

* Great motherboard choice. Though you can be assured of getting the latest version of NF7-S by purchasing it from <A HREF="http://www.excaliberpc.com/product_info.php?products_id..." target="_new">excaliberPC</A>.

* If there is any possibility of overclocking, it probably would be better to buy a <A HREF="http://www.excaliberpc.com/product_info.php?cPath=178_1..." target="_new">1700+ Thoroughbred-B</A>. Great overlocking potential.
May 4, 2003 7:02:49 PM

Do you need a floppy? You could get rid of it most likely. Then use the extra $50 to get a Radeon 9500 Pro or maybe a better monitor.

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May 5, 2003 12:41:11 AM

If he's going to use SATA and/or Win2000/XP, he'd still need floppy to load SATA's driver when installing OS.

:smile: Good or Bad have no meaning at all, depends on what your point of view is.
May 5, 2003 1:28:44 AM

Agreed,
The 2400+ prices have dropped heaps ($50 here in AUS) and is a very attractive buy for it's price.
May 6, 2003 6:07:22 PM

The list changes slightly now, cause I bought a 40GB maxtor for a friend who decided he wanted RAM instead. So now I have the HD already and I got him some ram. So here is the updated list:

Raidmax Model 208B(Black) 10-bay Case w/ 350W Power Supply Retail 28.00

Optorite52x24x52 Black IDE/ATAPI CD-RW Model CW5202BK Retail 47.00

MSI DVDROM 16X DVD, 48X CDROM Model MS-8216140BL Black OEM 31.00

MITSUMI D359M3 BLACK FDD 1.44MB 3.5INCH - OEM 11.00

Maxtor 40GB 7200RPM Hard Drive Model # 6E040L0 OEM, DRIVE ONLY 66.00* (I have another 20GB drive that will have WIX XP and office XP on it, the 40GB is for storage only)

(2x)GEIL 256MB PC-2700 60.00

KDS 17" XF-7T XFLAT Monitor Retail DotPitch:.20mm 129.00

ABIT NF7-S (was going to get the 8RDA+, but decided I want S-ATA) 125.00

AMD ATHLON XP 2200+ 80.00

FIC Radeon 9500 Pro A95P OEM 175.00

Artic Siler 3 7.00

Total: 693.00*
W/Ship: 727.63
(*indicates total without hardrive that I have now)



Just a computer junky
May 6, 2003 6:49:38 PM

* I would substitute the 2200+ with a 2100+. Folks are recieving TBred-B chips from NewEgg on a regular basis with the 2100+. Not sure about 2200+. TBred-B allows some room for any possible future overclocking - could save you from a cpu upgrade down the road. The speed difference between 2200+ and 2100+ is negligible.

* Get Lite-On for the CD-Burner.
May 27, 2003 12:55:28 AM

So here is what I ended up with due to some budget cuts that had to be made:

CASE RAIDMAX 268FB BLK 350W MID TOWER <b>33.00</b>
MB MSI K7N2 Delta-ILSR Retail <b>135.00</b>
CPU AMD 2200+ ATHLON XP <b>75.00</b>
ZALMAN CNPS3100+ CPU FAN+HS <b>25.00</b>
PANASONIC FD 1.44MB BLK <b>7.00</b>
MSI DVDROM 16X BLK <b>30.50</b>
CDRW MSI DRAGONWRITER CR52-A2 Black <b>42.00</b>
CORSAIR PC2700 VALUE RAM 256MB (x2) <b>59.00</b>
SAMTRON 17" CRT FLAT <b>119.00</b>
ATI OEM RADEON 9500 128M DDR <b>149.00</b>
BLACK MULTIMEDIA KEYBOARD <b>7.00</b>
A4TECH 5 BUTTON OPTICAL MOUSE <b>13.00</b>

Subtotal:694.50 (+5$ FOR OEM CPU 1YR. WARRANTY)
w/SHIPPING: 735.70

So for a mid range gaming pc for under 800 dollars shipped I think I did well. I would've loved to get lite-on's, but they were A) out and B) too much more money. Also SATA Adapters are the next thing on my list and I should be able to get them next month. I just got 2 40GB IBM deathstars for free from my dad, so if they work I may use them for SATA Raid once I get the adapters. I am using the Maxtor 40GB for making an external HD for my girlfriends laptop. So now I just have the extra 20GB hd, unless the IBM's don't work then she is getting the 20GB maxtor and I am keeping the 40GB one. Again after seeing the post on the 9600pro, I think the 9500 was a good (though budget enforced) choice. I really wanted a 9700np or pro, but it wasn't in the budget and nethier was the 9500pro unfortunately. I will let you know how it benches when it gets here.

Just a computer junky
a b V Motherboard
May 27, 2003 5:13:22 AM

Yessir, Newegg has the old Red PCB Radeon 9500/128MB that uses the 9700 PCB. These are the type famous for their unusual ability to be converted into 9700 Pros!

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May 27, 2003 2:45:21 PM

Yep I got the RED PCB ATI 9500, where can I find the info on the conversion to 9700? I would like to see what it takes. I tried google, but it came back with some odd stuff that wasn't right.

Just a computer junky
May 27, 2003 8:40:14 PM

So I was going through my old computer stuff I had just lying around and I found a Sunon 120x120x25 2400RPM 69CFM fan. The one that comes with the Zalman is a 92x92x25 nad does at best 53CFM. The Zalman at full speed is 37DB and the Sunon is 35.5DB, so I am going to use my 120MM fan over the top of the CPU HSF. If the Zalman with the 92MM is .26 c/w on high then the 120MM ought to be more like .24 c/w and get better cooling. This should be a good quiet solution and still allow for some overclocking.

Just a computer junky
a b V Motherboard
May 27, 2003 11:04:32 PM

<A HREF="http://www.rage3d.com" target="_new">http://www.rage3d.com&lt;/A> has info and some links. Basically, you can temporarily modify it to 9700 spec simply by using a hacked driver. You can unlock the clock generator by patching the BIOS, and then overclock it to 9700 speed.

If it's 100% perfect after extensive testing, you can then change a resistor on the surface of the chip and flash it with 9700 Pro BIOS to make those changes permenant.

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