P4P800/P4P8X...WTF!

[Crashman]

OK, so would someone like to tell me what the difference betweent the Asus P4P800 and P4P8X is? So far all I see is...the color?

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[TKH]

Read carefully Crash, P4P800 is using i865PE chipset while P4P8X uses i865P chipset. This is their difference, according to Intel there are 3 version of Springdale: i865PE, i865GE, and i865P. Obviously GE has graphic built in but I have no idea the difference between PE and P though, maybe is another Intel rip off strategy.

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[shadus]

I865P - 400/533
I865PE - 400/533/800
I865G - 400/533/800 + Intel Extreme Graphics 2

Those are the diff chipsets and what is different as far as i can tell...

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[elzt]

That also means the 865PE supports dual-channel DDR400/333/266 memory while the 865P supports only dual-channel DDR333/266.

 

[shinyhalo]

It seems that some i865P are built on the same PCBs as i865PE. By using a different bios you can "unlock" the 800mhx fsb on the i865P.

More info on this would be great but for now it's limited to this:

http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/chipsets/display/20030531181423.html

 

[Crashman]

OK, that explains it!

The P4P8X in question DOES support "800" bus and DDR400 though!

You see, the 865P is a low end version of the 865PE. There is no real difference technically, I believe it involves Intel "Speed Binning" chipsets.

But recent news has shown that 865P chipsets are indeed capable of being forced to function as 865PE simply by using PE BIOS from an otherwise identicle board.

Having said that, if speed binning is involved, I wouldn't put as much faith in the 865P for overclocking!

All this developed from you pointing out that the cheaper board uses the 865P instead of PE chipset.

Asus also produces an 865G Micro ATX board in the P4P800-VE. And the same rule applies there, the G isn't supposed to support 800 bus (as the GE would), but Asus's board does it.

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