Why no review on 400fsb synchro nforce2 rev.2's?

[Balderdash]

I don't care about brand of mobo (not a fan boy), but I do care about the new rev.2 to the nForce chipsets. All of the reviews I've seen to date test it with 333fsb CPU's and then say that the 400DDRRAM is a waste of money.

Why would this still be true with the new 400fsb CPU's?

Wouldn't a 400Fsb CPU (3000 or 3200) be running sychronized with 400DDR RAM utilizing dualDDR control blow a 333 setup with non-synchronized FSB's, away?

How much faster is this setup going to be? Why isn't it being tested/reviewed anywhere?

 

[FallOutBoyTonto]

Have you tried searching? I just did a search and found the following:
- <A HREF="http://www.nforcershq.com/modules.php?name=Reviews" target="_new">Reviews @ nForcersHQ</A>
- <A HREF="http://www.digital-daily.com/motherboard/epox-8rda3+/" target="_new">Epox 8RDA3+ @ Digital Daily</A>
- <A HREF="http://www.anandtech.com/news/shownews.html?i=19673" target="_new">Gigabyte GA-7NNXP @ Anandtech</A>
- <A HREF="http://www.hardocp.com/article.html?art=NDM0" target="_new">MSI K7N2 @ [H]ard|OCP</A>

That search for reviews took 10 mins, you can easily find more if you <b>try</b> looking for reviews

 

[Balderdash]

NONE of those tests/reviews tested the new nvidia rev2 boards with a 400fsb CPU, they all used 333 or 266 CPU's running non-synchronized FRS systems (mainly because the tests were done before the 3200 and 3000 400fsb chips were released.

So, like I said, why isn't anyone re-testing the chipset with the hardware it was designed to maximize?

 

[Balderdash]

http://www.bit-tech.net/review/216/4

FINALLY! 3 days of searching! And the only one I can find is someplace in England (lol) that I never heard of before, but they actually stuck a 3200 in a nvidia mainboard and compared it against a 333 AMD AND compared them both against a 3.06 P4 and a 3.0 P4 w/800fsb.

Looks like the 3200 actually won a couple of tests, cool.

 

[pIII_Man]

<A HREF="http://www.hexus.net/review.php?review=557 " target="_new">http://www.hexus.net/review.php?review=557 </A>

thats for the 8rda3+...it is my undestanding that little has changed in the nforce2 chipset with exception to support for a higher bus, i don't think many enhancments were made to much else.

 

[Balderdash]

That's my understanding too, that it's an upgrade for the 400fsb CPU support.

But I think everyone testing it without a 400fsb CPU makes no sense. It's like upgrading to a fx5900ultra and then testing it on 800x600 resolution only. It's no better than any other card until you start to maximize it's improvements.

I just want to know if the nvidia claim of 100% increased RAM speed via x2 controllers and synchronized FSB speeds is true and - it can't be tested properly unless the CPU is also 200fsb. Because if it's true, it should be as a fast as a 800fsb p4 right?

There is no reason to upgrade to the new Ultra400 chipset UNLESS you also upgrade (via purchase or overclocking) your cpu to 400fsb speeds to run both RAM and CPU fsb synchronized.

EDIT: Thanks for the link, I'm still reading it : )

<P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by Balderdash on 06/26/03 11:39 AM.</EM></FONT></P>

 

[TKH]

There is no reason to upgrade to the new Ultra400 chipset UNLESS you also upgrade (via purchase or overclocking) your cpu to 400fsb speeds to run both RAM and CPU fsb synchronized.

Man, no offence but have you heard of something called "overclocking". Actually it makes no difference between a 3200+ and a 2500+ overclocked to 2.2GHz @11x200MHz, they are same core, same cache, same multiplier, same FSB. What makes the difference is the price.
There is another reason to get Ultra400 which is normal nForce2 has serious northbridge undervolt problem which makes them unstable over FSB 185MHz. If you want to run at stock is fine but I don't think anyone who are running a 2500+ is not overclocking.
But I have to agree that none of the current review are using a 2500+ too, most of them are still using 1800+ or 2200+ or 2400+ or 2800+ for 333FSB.

It is morally wrong to allow suckers to keep their money
<A HREF="http://www.anandtech.com/mysystemrig.html?id=22996" target="_new">My System Rig</A><P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by TKH on 06/26/03 11:55 AM.</EM></FONT></P>

 

[Balderdash]

I didn't mean people shouldn't or can't overclock. My bust for not making myself clearer.

My point was that the tests I've been reading aren't being done right if you read the nvidia tech file. Nvidia claims that if you overclock the FSB to the RAM you MUST overclock the fsb to the CPU as well so that both are the same. It says, if you overclock one and not the other, it will be slower than if you didn't overclock either but they were synchronized.

So I read this, then start lookeing at the reviews, and 99% of them are running the nvidia chip-set in a-synchronized mode. I'm like, wtf? didn't anyone read the tech file on the dualchannel DDR architecture before making their setup test machines?