Too bad that palm couldn't get its act together in time - as far as products are concerned, they had the edge when the smartphone revolution began but they lacked imagination, and certainly had a substandard marketing dept/firm. You look at the iphone - what a piece of crap (really, I know) and yet it sells for no other reason than marketing and perception. I loved my treo, but I moved on to an htc and if I had to I'd rather use the "cell phone" from miami vice than an ugly cliched iphone.