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isnt there any way to get around the 4 gig file size limit in windows xp?

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The limit actually has nothing to do with Windows.
It is because you have a 32 bit processor.
2^32=4G
Wait until the Hammers come out(or buy an Itanium),
they are able to access something like 256TB(Terabytes)
(don't know why but they only have 48bit addressing)


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Reply to starbucksaddict

Update...

My previous information <A HREF="http://www.ece.utexas.edu/projects/ece/lca/courses/382n/presentations/AMD_Hammer.ppt" target="_new">here</A> claimed Hammer would use 48bit virtual addressing and 40bit physical addressing.
<A HREF="http://www.amd.com/us-en/assets/content_type/white_papers_and_tech_docs/x86-64_overview.pdf" target="_new">This</A> article from AMD states the Hammer will use 32bit addressing in Compatability/Legacy mode and 64bit addressing in 64bit/Long mode.
So if you use a 64bit OS you can access upto 16EB(Exabytes)

(for the numerically challenged an exabyte is 1 billion gigabytes)

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Reply to starbucksaddict

if you use NTFS it doesnt have the 4Gb limit.
i regularly look at .vob files over 4gig.

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Reply to lhgpoobaa
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it has nothing to do with the cpu. yes, the limitation you are seeing is because of the fat32 file system. i forgot the formula (there is one i think). but there's no way fat32 can support a 4gig file. ntfs is unlimited, at least with the files i've thrown at it. 12gb was the biggest one.

[insert philosophical statement here]

Reply to mbetea

indeed

i think from memory that NTFS can handle file sizes up to rediculous TeraByte amounts.
possibly 16Tb.


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Reply to lhgpoobaa

You are talking about hard drive limitations as explained <A HREF="http://www.microsoft.com/technet/treeview/default.asp?url=/TechNet/prodtechnol/winxppro/reskit/prkc_fil_tdrn.asp" target="_new">here</A>, and yes NTFS can in theory have a 16EB volume.
I believe, however that Jihiggs was talking about memory(RAM). If not, oh well.

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Reply to starbucksaddict

I'm slow, finally figured out your sig, great movie. Kiser Sosay

Why do you need to get arouund the 4G limit??

I've got programs to link several smaller vids into one smooth playing super file and I've seen other ways around the 4g limit but they depend on what you are trying to do.

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Reply to lakedude
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im having touble with the 4GB file size limitation as well.
i do a lot of DVD ripping and my main problem is joining the ripped DivX avis back into a single file. at the moment im only having minimal sucess with VirtualDub. i lose sound sync at the join and i cant seem to correct it.

I'm out of my mind, but feel free to leave a message.

Reply to rcj187
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actually kaiser sosay didnt say it, the cripple did, kaiser was the devil. i am trying to figure out how to copy some vid clips off dvd, but no matter what i do the audio is out of sync with the video (very badly). i gave up trying to convert the vob files to divx so i am just using a capture card from my dvd player. the quality is good but i cant get it to compress the video on the fly while capturing so a 23 min section is about 6 gigs or so. i cant get my capture card to work in xp or 2000 so i have to do it in 98.

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Reply to jihiggs

Ahh I thought it pretty much had to be video because almost nothing else takes up so much room. Because of the way you are capturing you are taking up more room then you need to and loosing quality in the process. I just can't imagine why you would want such huge files clogging up your hd when you could have hundereds of smaller divx movies in the same space.

Have you tried a Smartrip/Flask combination? That should be about the easiest. Vobs are usually never over 1GB each and do not need to be joined before converting.

If you feel brave my favorite is Fair Use. Fair Use is an all in one ripper/autocropper/autosizer/converter. The only problem with FU is that it does not do sound like Flask does. Other then sound FU is super easy to use. If you decide to try FU you will need:

Fair use .30 beta, use this to rip sound to ac3 and vid to fud.

BeSweet, use BeSweet to convert audio from ac3 to mp3.

Nandub, use Nandub to join the sound and video back together.

Get em all at <A HREF="http://www.doom9.org" target="_new">http://www.doom9.org</A>

Tips:
Use a constant bit rate of around 112 for audio.

During the copping phase of FU chop a little of the end of the movie off. Sometimes the sound or video do not end at the same point and this can throw the sync off.



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Reply to lakedude

It is kinda funny but the only movie I have ever user my AIW Radeon to capture rather then copy straight from a dvd was (can you guess?)....
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The Usual Suspects


BTW the reason I had to capture it was because it came off tape.

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Reply to lakedude
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dude! you are the bomb!! fair use is the only program that could copy these videos correctly! i am trying to copy the simpsons episodes off dvd, no matter what i tried i couldnt get the audio to sync up right. it didnt just start off late and stay that way, it would be fine in the begining and be off in the middle come back, go off again... that made ordinary methods of audio syncing impossible. i notived at the begining it says it is indexing, that must be what makes it work so well. do you know what version of divx it uses?

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Reply to jihiggs

Assuming everything is working, you are welcome.

Lots of snobs like to use Nandub or G-knot to convert but I like FU the best by far. It works when the others don't because it does its own rip and (according to the author) extracts more information then a normal ripper.

I believe FU uses (oh no) divx 3.11 alpha. In fact I'm pretty sure of it. It usedta suck because you would need one rip for sound(smartrip/graphedit) and another for video (FU). Now FU extracts sound for you so all you need is a FU, a ac3 to mp3 pogram, and a joiner.

Did you use Besweet for sound and Nandub to join?

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Reply to lakedude
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yes, i used them both, whats the diff between virtual dub and nandub?

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Reply to jihiggs
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Well LHGPooBaa does a lot divx... so maybe he can help.

<b>P75 @ 90 Mhz</b>... because I need the speed.

Reply to svol

VD is the original. Nandub is a modified version of VD that allows it to do extra stuff such as:



2 pass encoding (if you are using Nandub to do the encode).

Bit rate calculate.

Allow mp3 and other audio that VD does not handle on its own.


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Reply to lakedude

You must be pretty smart or motivated or something to have been able to get all that stuff so quickly. There is a bit of a learning curve and most folks I try to help give up and stick with Flask because it does sound.

If anybody has questions on this type of thing please post or crosspost to the Video Editing section. I know that section does not get a lot of traffic and that is the point. I will easily be able to find and read your post in that section but it might get lost in the Other section.

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Reply to lakedude

Svdude

Unless I missed something you are a little late.

Did I miss something? Does anybody still need help? I'm pretty sure XP will work on an NT file system (In fact I thought that was the whole point of going to XP, that it is NT based)but I'm still running 98se and Me.

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Reply to lakedude
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ntfs file system in 2000/xp is a different version than win nt.

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Reply to jihiggs
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i used to do my ripping with dvd-ripp it was a script program bundled with a bunch of command line programs to do the ripping, audio stuff and used v dub for muxing. it works very well but the problem is, i have run accross several dvds that it just cant do. the simpsons episodes especialy. it wouldnt let me choose the individual chains for each episode so i tried dvdx. it had an option for a/v sync but it would just add space in the middle of the sound when it started to move too fast. this was unaceptable. you recomended fair use so i tried it, it works perfect but i wish it would use the newer divx codec, 4 is much better than 3.11

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Reply to jihiggs
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Well lakedude, they where talking about Divx playing and compyling, so I just gave the name of somebody that does that often.

<b>P75 @ 90 Mhz</b>... because I need the speed.

Reply to svol
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Try to get a App and convert it too NTFS. I know you but i forgot the name of the app.

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Reply to rcf84

I'm not meaning to step on anybodys toes. I look at stuff a lot different then most folks and can miss some real obvious things sometimes. I was just doing a sanity check on myself.

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Reply to lakedude
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Ok, no problem dude.

<b>P75 @ 90 Mhz</b>... because I need the speed.

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