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<font color=blue> How does eating meat harm the environment?
When land is used to raise animals instead of crops, precious water and soil are lost, trees are cut down to make land for grazing or factory-farm sheds, and untreated animal waste pollutes rivers and streams. In fact, it has such a devastating effect on all aspects of our environment that the Union of Concerned Scientists lists meat-eating as the second-biggest environmental hazard facing the Earth. (Number one is fossil-fuel vehicles). No wonder, when you consider facts like these:

* Cows must consume 16 pounds of vegetation in order to convert them into 1 pound of flesh. Raising animals for food consumes more than half of all water used in the U.S. It takes 2,500 gallons of water to produce a pound of meat, but only 25 gallons to produce a pound of wheat. A totally vegetarian diet requires 300 gallons of water per day, while a meat-eating diet requires more than 4,000 gallons of water per day.

* Producing just one hamburger uses enough fossil fuel to drive a small car 20 miles. Of all raw materials and fossil fuels used in the U.S., more than one-third are used to raise animals for food.

* A typical pig factory generates the same amount of raw waste as a city of 12,000 people. According to the Environmental Protection Agency, raising animals for food is the number one source of water pollution.

* Of all agricultural land in the U.S., 87 percent is used to raise animals for food. That’s 45 percent of the total land mass in the U.S. About 260 million acres of U.S. forest have been cleared to create cropland to produce feed for animals raised for food. The meat industry is directly responsible for 85 percent of all soil erosion in the U.S.

* More than 80 percent of the corn we grow and more than 95 percent of the oats are fed to livestock. The world’'s cattle alone consume a quantity of food equal to the caloric needs of 8.7 billion people—more than the entire human population on Earth. According to the Worldwatch Institute, "Roughly 2 of every 5 tons of grain produced in the world is fed to livestock, poultry, or fish; decreasing consumption of these products, especially of beef, could free up massive quantities of grain and reduce pressure on land."

It’s OK to eat eggs because chickens lay them naturally. The eggs we buy in the supermarket are sterile and not unborn fetuses, right?

The cruelty of egg production lies in the treatment of the "laying" hens themselves, who are perhaps the most abused of all factory-farmed animals. Up to five hens are packed into each cage the size of a filing cabinet drawer. The cages are stacked many tiers high; feces from the cages above fall onto the chickens below. Hens become lame and develop osteoporosis from forced immobility and calcium lost to produce egg shells. Some birds’ feet grow around the wire cage floors; they starve to death because they are unable to reach the food trough. At just 2 years of age, most hens are "spent" and sent to the slaughterhouse. Egg-laying hatcheries have no use for male chicks so they suffocate, decapitate, crush, or grind them up alive.

Each egg from today’s egg factory farms represents 22 hours of hell for a hen.
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This has to be full of half truths and outright lies. Clearly propaganda form those nutty animal activists. I need help debunking this pile of rubbish. Thx in advanced.




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MMMMM a nice <font color=red> rare </font color=red> <b> Steak !!!</b> Porterhouse cut please and a really good really cold ale..

lagger

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Reply to lagger

Well, I know a few poultry farmers and the idea of chickens starving is not very believable; hungry birds don't lay eggs!
And if you think it's cruel then buy free-range eggs!

Point 2, The last time I looked myself in the mirror I had a couple rather pointy teeth shining back at me called canines. These are there because we are MEAT-EATERS.

Point 3, Meat contains enzymes and other things that promote the growth of brain cells in fetuses. Evolutionarily, it doesn't take much brain power to sneak up on a blade of grass.

All that being said, today we can supplement our diet with needed enzymes. Modern humans are like modern cars; we know vegitarianism/electricity is better for us and the environment, but meat/gas is more convenient and energy dense. I don't believe the average person is going to give up their Big Mac just so some starving family in Ethiopia can eat for a week.

So, other than the starving chicken thing, the article is fairly accurate.

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Reply to starbucksaddict

Truth ot not, there's nothing like a fried pig's arse and chicken's embryo sandwich to start your day !!! :lol:

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Reply to camieabz
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Lowlypawn!
Let`s take a break!
The universe is well my friend!
Come on over to the <font color=red><b>SLAUGHTERHOUSE CAFÉ</b></font color=red> with me !
Let`s order a good <font color=red>bloody</font color=red> coffee!
It`s on me, my friend!


pike :wink:

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Reply to pike

rofl at point 3. hahaha.

My frog asked me for a straw...dunno what happened he's all over the place :eek:

Reply to Flamethrower205

do u realise that in some parts of the world piggaries serve two purposes?

on one sude they produce nice juicy succulent piggies to munch on

on the other side the piggie poo is pumped into biomass converters, and the poo sits and ferments and rots, producing lots of nice methane gas. the gas is then used to power turbines for electricy or burnt for heating purposes.


i think we need more like that.

P.S. being the master poo i know about stuff like this :smile:

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Hip. Hip. Hooray for pig poop.


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Reply to OldBear

lol. plus one can use the excretions as feritilizer:)

My frog asked me for a straw...dunno what happened he's all over the place :eek:

Reply to Flamethrower205
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I believe we have all the fertilizer in this forum that we can handle.

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Reply to OldBear
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I just ate a steak tonight and I saved a piece to put in my vegetable soup for lunch tomorrow. Its a shame to mix a good piece of beef with vegetables but sometimes I need that little bit of fiber to the poop slide out.



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Reply to zpyrd
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did you get that off the moby album "every thing is wrong"? i really hate that guy.

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Reply to jihiggs

lol zip classy.

nice to see u again


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Reply to lhgpoobaa

I eat twice as much meat as I really care for, just to spite all the Tree Huggers/Peta.

(insert maniacal laugh, here)

Reply to ejsmith2
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:eek:

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Reply to svol

What should we do then? Let all the cattle roam free?

If we weren't supposed to eat animals, they wouldn't be made out of meat for fscksakes!

If my baby don't love me, I know, I know, her sister will.

Reply to silverpig

lol. If only u guys knew how much meat I eat....heheheh.

My frog asked me for a straw...dunno what happened he's all over the place :eek:

Reply to Flamethrower205

Just ate a custom cut steak from the butcher shop where my brother works... 2 and a half pounds baby! :smile:

If my baby don't love me, I know, I know, her sister will.

Reply to silverpig

Other then the “hungry birds don't lay eggs!” you guys have given me very little anti vegetarian info.
So far the war effort is boarding on pathetic! Come on team, rally and focus on why eating meat is good and good for the environment!

How bout the fact that cows are so dumb they will stare at the sun until they go blind. Clearly without the help of humans there would be no possibility of cows surviving in the wild. The only reason cows exist are because of people. The cows should thank us, a few slaughtered cows is small price to pay for their existence.

Cya




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Reply to Lowlypawn

ummm... it may have missed your notice but the reason why cows are so dumb is that humans have selectively bred them that way for thousands of years.



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Reply to lhgpoobaa

Either my humor is lost on you or I’m just not funny.

Don’t take me to seriously, just look at my occupation


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Reply to Lowlypawn

Either my humor is lost on you or I’m just not funny.

Don’t take me to seriously, just look at my occupation


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Reply to Lowlypawn

im just me.
i looked at it the wrong way

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Reply to lhgpoobaa

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Reply to scamtrOn

hmmm
if you wanted to totally confuse me you have suceeded well!

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Scamtron is just using drugs again.

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Reply to svol

"no possibility of cows surviving in the wild"

You need to watch Discovery Channel more.

It will be nice when synthetic aminos are more common that meat. I personally don't care for the slaughter process. That's not to say other animals don't kill to stay alive; they do. But I don't particurarly have to care for it, myself.

I do, however, believe in the wholesale slaughter of innocent Beers. Strictly for the pleasure of killing them. I like to shoot them between the eyes, and watch their autonomic processes slowly deteroriate while their blood is spilling on the ground, leaving a heavy, musty odor in the kill zone. I like to see the horror on the faces of their friends as I cruelly tear into their torso, rip the still-beating-heart from their chest and savagely bite into it, savoring the sweet taste of blood and serum.

For now, I will kill. And I plan to keep on killing. I will chase them round Good Hope, and round the Horn, and round the Norway Maelstrom, and round Perdition's Flames before I give them up!

(insert maniacal laugh, here.)

Reply to ejsmith2
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* Of all agricultural land in the U.S., 87 percent is used to raise animals for food. That’s 45 percent of the total land mass in the U.S.

This is totally false.

That is a nice <b><font color=green>Garbage Can</font color=green></b> you have there!

Reply to buddry
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Lowly don't feel so down. First thing I would do is go back and look at whos putting out the numbers. I doubt this is objective science. I'm a member P.E.T.A. (people who eat tasty animals) the hardest thing to do is to face an argument put out by a buarucacy ran by an activest who holds a goverment jobs. The reason this dated is so onesided is they have to keep thier jobs. These wackos don't realize if we stop eating stupid cows will have to start eating (smart) dolphins. Another thing is people need jobs! In a perfect world you don't need money. But here on Earth its all about the cash.
Here is a suggestion. Read everthing you can find by the following authors Walter P. Williams and Thomas Sowell, these two men are brilliant scholars the first guy is an economist and the other is a sociologist. They are for human freedom and free markets. And these things gave America its greatnest. Tell your friend to take a look at countries where people don't have the freedom to choose to eat meat or not; or even eat for that matter. They are starving, and flat ass broke and living in dirty water!
Good intention in the name of compassion (for humans or animals) pave the road to hell. Just look at the former Soviet Block. Those people are still miserable 20 years after the fall of the Berlin wall. This is the ol' Hegalan dialict at it's best. Create the crisis to fix the problem to gain more controll. The communist didn't go away thier at Americas major univeristies and maintaining jobs at the E.P.A. Go crunch the numbers, do the math, learn how to pick apart the argument with logic and they'll still argue from emotion. I have a hard time understanding people who worry about animals in a country where we have psychologist for our pets, when real people suffer in the world.
Anyway Im done with my rant. Think I'll go have a Jumbo Jack while I drive my Jeep Grand Waggoneer; or maybe chicken strips! O somemany choices!
P.S. Heres a hint. My amp sounds like crap!

Reply to SDgr
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New Motto

<b><i><font color=red>I didn't fight my way to the top of the food chain to become a vegetarian!</font color=red></i></b> :smile:


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Reply to zpyrd

good sig!

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