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September 8, 2003 8:02:43 PM

Ok heres the deal, I want to buy and build a 2.4c pentium computer. I want to get the best motherboard I can.(Ideally it would have the BEST onboard sound, so that I wouldnt need to buy a soundcard)

So I'm thinking I'll get that $200.00 Gigabyte board. This computer has to last me 2-3 years so I have to have a top quality board.
I was also thinking that I could buy some Twin memory (later) for the dual memory slots. BUT until then could I just buy 1 big stick of memory for my third slot?

I think that board has 4 slot, the first 2 are for twin sticks. So would it still rin without a hitch in 2 years if I have 2 twin sticks of 256MB each and the 3rd slot with a big 512 or 1GB stick?

p.s. I'm not planning on overclocking it immediatly but as I add on a second hard drive for raid in a year or so, I plan to overclock.

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September 8, 2003 8:30:44 PM

I think you can. The best bet would be to ask Gigabyte :) 

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September 9, 2003 1:33:32 AM

No intel board will support dual channel mode with an odd number of slots filled. You can only get dual channel with 2 or 4 sticks of ram. Since 2 X 256 is not much more than 1 X 512, why not get the 256MB sticks now?
This does not mean the board wont run, only that you loose the dual channel bump.
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September 9, 2003 1:55:39 AM

It is...just make sure that you set it up in such a way that you have 2 sticks half the size of the third...the 2 sticks must go to 1 memory controllor and the other stick to the other memory controllor...this is made possible by the fact that i beleive that the high priced gigabyte boards have 6 (six) mem slots...meaning that the 2 extras are shared by 1 controllor...


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September 9, 2003 4:03:18 AM

So! In the 875 board you can do it if you use the purple ram slots. Nice touch, just like the nforce boards.
September 9, 2003 4:24:38 AM

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Ideally it would have the BEST onboard sound, so that I wouldnt need to buy a soundcard

All Intel based mobo have either Realtek or C-Media soft codec on board. Sorry to disappoint you but you need to get a soundcard for better sound solution. The BEST on board sound is on AMD platform (nForce APU).

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September 9, 2003 5:23:37 AM

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I was also thinking that I could buy some Twin memory (later) for the dual memory slots. BUT until then could I just buy 1 big stick of memory for my third slot?

I think that board has 4 slot, the first 2 are for twin sticks.

The way gigabyte has organized this board seems to have caused quite a bit of confusion. The logical choice would be to start off with 2 memory modules and then add two more memory modules if/when more memory is desired.

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September 9, 2003 6:25:02 AM

Ok thanks, I read that manual... things are clearer now, BUT, I want to overclock it soon after I get it... how exactly does overclocking RAM work?

The pc4000's are extremly expensive, it seems like it makes more sense just to buy the top of the line CPU and double the Ram.

I guess what I'm asking is what speed of ram will i need in order to overclock my pentium 2.4c snd squeeze out 1000mhz front side bus.
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September 9, 2003 8:24:28 AM

You'll need at least PC3200, just to run it at 200MHz (DDR400)with the CPU bus at 250MHz (QDR1000).

Dual channel mode gives 2 DDR400 modules the bandwidth of QDR800. That's the stock bus for your 2.4C. Running the memory bus at a lower speed hurts performance but allows you to overclock. A 5:4 CPU:RAM ratio would give you the 250:200 ratio previously mentioned. Running anything other than pairs will also hurt your performance significantly.

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September 9, 2003 9:59:44 AM

Check Tom's news for monday. Ocz Golden 4000 has been clocked to almost 150%. Newegg has it for $115/256MB. Now that is overclocking ram!
September 9, 2003 8:13:56 PM

P4 2.4C OC to 3.0 Ghz. HyperX PC3500 2 x 512 5:4 FSb 250 Mobo Abit IS7 thats what I'm using.
September 12, 2003 12:20:55 AM

Thanks everyone for helping me out.

-Crashman, so your saying that it wouldnt make sense to go with anything less than 400mhz, which is PC3200, correct?

Well I want to overclock and get my Frot side bus up to 1000mhz so does that mean that I need to get the PC4000?
What about overclocking the ram instead(which I know nothing about) If I run my pc at 1000mhz fsb, sounds like the pc4000 ram wont be overclocked cause it doesnt need to be.

Lastly, I just saw the PC4200 Ram on pricewatch.com It handles 533mhz... Has anyone heard of the 2.4c being pushed to 1066mhz fsb? Is this even possible?
September 12, 2003 2:47:02 AM

Check the CPU OC forum. They have. But you need new Hsf stock will not go that far.
September 12, 2003 2:48:22 AM

HyperX PC3500 512 $123.
September 12, 2003 6:13:53 PM

Crashman, so your saying that it wouldnt make sense to go with anything less than 400mhz, which is PC3200, correct?

Well I want to overclock and get my Frot side bus up to 1000mhz so does that mean that I need to get the PC4000?
What about overclocking the ram instead(which I know nothing about) If I run my pc at 1000mhz fsb, sounds like the pc4000 ram wont be overclocked cause it doesnt need to be.

Lastly, I just saw the PC4200 Ram on pricewatch.com It handles 533mhz... Has anyone heard of the 2.4c being pushed to 1066mhz fsb? Is this even possible?
September 12, 2003 9:59:09 PM

Yeah Scotthen not sure if I'm spelling his name right has. Check CPU OC forum.
September 12, 2003 11:50:02 PM

What he is saying is correct...anything less than pc3200 would be stupid for overclocking let alone running stock speeds...running a memory divider will hurt performance.

I personally would not buy ram over pc3500...after that it just seems that manufactureres are factory overclocking the ram by increasing the voltage and latency...but then again thats just my opinion.

If you dont want to deal with overclocking your ram...definitly listen to crash...buy ram for the speeds that you want to run your fsb at.


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September 12, 2003 11:57:21 PM

Correction Scottchen
September 12, 2003 11:57:23 PM

Correction Scottchen
September 13, 2003 1:21:53 AM

i dont think that there is computer that last less than 5 year. my 286 is 10 year old and it always run "good"
a b V Motherboard
September 14, 2003 12:29:48 AM

Right, if you want to run your CPU at 250MHz bus clock (QDR1000), you have a few choices:

PC4000@rated speed (250MHz clock=DDR500)
PC3200@5:4 CPU:RAM (250:200, 200MHz RAM clock=DDR400)

Or something slower at an even worse ratio. Best performance comes from running the CPU and RAM at the same clock speed, in Dual Channel mode.

You can overclock RAM also, but the latest RAM is already rated near it's max speed, getting PC3200 up to 250MHz bus clock would be very chancy and require very large latencies and very high voltages.

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