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Anonymous
August 17, 2005 9:25:58 PM

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Because MSFT dose not allow not full hard drive B/u on cd/dvd
Can full hard drive be offloaded to say external USB Hard drive or Tape device
for reboot disaster revovery?

--
Thanks,
ponderxpo

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Anonymous
August 18, 2005 12:33:35 AM

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Windows Backup is not suitable for full system backups.. use something like
Acronis TrueImage

http://www.acronis.com/


--
Mike Hall
MVP - Windows Shell/User


"ponderxpo" <ponderxpo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:88B5D481-A625-49F3-9135-A4B87E9375BE@microsoft.com...
> Because MSFT dose not allow not full hard drive B/u on cd/dvd
> Can full hard drive be offloaded to say external USB Hard drive or Tape
> device
> for reboot disaster revovery?
>
> --
> Thanks,
> ponderxpo
Anonymous
August 18, 2005 12:33:36 AM

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I think Acronis mentions about backing up in a "INCD" thing ...
What is INCD? Do I have to reconvifure something to "INCD" mode?
--
Thanks,
ponderxpo


"Mike Hall (MS-MVP)" wrote:

> Windows Backup is not suitable for full system backups.. use something like
> Acronis TrueImage
>
> http://www.acronis.com/
>
>
> --
> Mike Hall
> MVP - Windows Shell/User
>
>
> "ponderxpo" <ponderxpo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:88B5D481-A625-49F3-9135-A4B87E9375BE@microsoft.com...
> > Because MSFT dose not allow not full hard drive B/u on cd/dvd
> > Can full hard drive be offloaded to say external USB Hard drive or Tape
> > device
> > for reboot disaster revovery?
> >
> > --
> > Thanks,
> > ponderxpo
>
>
>
Related resources
August 18, 2005 12:33:37 AM

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.newusers (More info?)

InCD is the packet writing software from Nero.

http://www.nero.com/us



MD



"ponderxpo" wrote:

> I think Acronis mentions about backing up in a "INCD" thing ...
> What is INCD? Do I have to reconvifure something to "INCD" mode?
> --
> Thanks,
> ponderxpo
>
>
> "Mike Hall (MS-MVP)" wrote:
>
> > Windows Backup is not suitable for full system backups.. use something like
> > Acronis TrueImage
> >
> > http://www.acronis.com/
> >
> >
> > --
> > Mike Hall
> > MVP - Windows Shell/User
> >
> >
> > "ponderxpo" <ponderxpo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > news:88B5D481-A625-49F3-9135-A4B87E9375BE@microsoft.com...
> > > Because MSFT dose not allow not full hard drive B/u on cd/dvd
> > > Can full hard drive be offloaded to say external USB Hard drive or Tape
> > > device
> > > for reboot disaster revovery?
> > >
> > > --
> > > Thanks,
> > > ponderxpo
> >
> >
> >
Anonymous
August 18, 2005 12:33:37 AM

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.newusers (More info?)

TrueImage will backup or Image your whole HD to another HD and make that
drive bootable.
It will also allow you to make incremental backups of certain sections of
your HD and place that into any directory that you create or it will create
a special partition which will not show up in Explorer.These files will be
in an image format.
It also lets you activate a Recovery Manager that does not need XP to run
from where you can "restore" that image.
Images can be burned to a DVD-R/RW disc
INCD is a program that is usually included in NERO ver 6...........which you
say you already have..........check!!
You have posted in every newsgroup here............it is best to stick to
one and add to it as people who do help will check back but not many will
bother with the same type of questions in 6 diffferent newsgroups.
peterk


--
Never trust a computer you can't throw out the window. - Steve Wozniak
"ponderxpo" <ponderxpo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:E6806D2E-C443-4278-A2E4-37E63E407D53@microsoft.com...
>I think Acronis mentions about backing up in a "INCD" thing ...
> What is INCD? Do I have to reconvifure something to "INCD" mode?
> --
> Thanks,
> ponderxpo
>
>
> "Mike Hall (MS-MVP)" wrote:
>
>> Windows Backup is not suitable for full system backups.. use something
>> like
>> Acronis TrueImage
>>
>> http://www.acronis.com/
>>
>>
>> --
>> Mike Hall
>> MVP - Windows Shell/User
>>
>>
>> "ponderxpo" <ponderxpo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:88B5D481-A625-49F3-9135-A4B87E9375BE@microsoft.com...
>> > Because MSFT dose not allow not full hard drive B/u on cd/dvd
>> > Can full hard drive be offloaded to say external USB Hard drive or Tape
>> > device
>> > for reboot disaster revovery?
>> >
>> > --
>> > Thanks,
>> > ponderxpo
>>
>>
>>
Anonymous
August 18, 2005 12:33:38 AM

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.newusers (More info?)

Petro ... Yes I have Nero full version but I found out that you cant Backup
full Hard drive to DVD according to Nero Support I had to reconfig my system
and get a new DVD... The nerve huh?
Since Im a novice and gullable.
I thought going to different newsgroups might offer greater diverse help.
Well I now know so ill try to not to bounce all over.
Thanks for your info.


--
Thanks,
ponderxpo


"peterk" wrote:

> TrueImage will backup or Image your whole HD to another HD and make that
> drive bootable.
> It will also allow you to make incremental backups of certain sections of
> your HD and place that into any directory that you create or it will create
> a special partition which will not show up in Explorer.These files will be
> in an image format.
> It also lets you activate a Recovery Manager that does not need XP to run
> from where you can "restore" that image.
> Images can be burned to a DVD-R/RW disc
> INCD is a program that is usually included in NERO ver 6...........which you
> say you already have..........check!!
> You have posted in every newsgroup here............it is best to stick to
> one and add to it as people who do help will check back but not many will
> bother with the same type of questions in 6 diffferent newsgroups.
> peterk
>
>
> --
> Never trust a computer you can't throw out the window. - Steve Wozniak
> "ponderxpo" <ponderxpo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:E6806D2E-C443-4278-A2E4-37E63E407D53@microsoft.com...
> >I think Acronis mentions about backing up in a "INCD" thing ...
> > What is INCD? Do I have to reconvifure something to "INCD" mode?
> > --
> > Thanks,
> > ponderxpo
> >
> >
> > "Mike Hall (MS-MVP)" wrote:
> >
> >> Windows Backup is not suitable for full system backups.. use something
> >> like
> >> Acronis TrueImage
> >>
> >> http://www.acronis.com/
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Mike Hall
> >> MVP - Windows Shell/User
> >>
> >>
> >> "ponderxpo" <ponderxpo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:88B5D481-A625-49F3-9135-A4B87E9375BE@microsoft.com...
> >> > Because MSFT dose not allow not full hard drive B/u on cd/dvd
> >> > Can full hard drive be offloaded to say external USB Hard drive or Tape
> >> > device
> >> > for reboot disaster revovery?
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > Thanks,
> >> > ponderxpo
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>
>
Anonymous
August 18, 2005 12:58:00 AM

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.newusers (More info?)

Your welcome
TrueImage is a good investment to make..............it has saved my bacon a
few times.
With the low price of HD nowadays it is fairly reasonable cost to purchase
one and using TrueImage image your HD to the new one and then remove the new
one and keep in a safe place.Every once in awhile reconnect the new drive
and reimage
When(not IF) something goes wrong and you cant boot,you simply unplug the HD
and install the imaged drive and your up and running in minutes.
peterk

--
Never trust a computer you can't throw out the window. - Steve Wozniak
"ponderxpo" <ponderxpo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:BAF24058-7855-4096-8650-D2C93BD837E4@microsoft.com...
> Petro ... Yes I have Nero full version but I found out that you cant
> Backup
> full Hard drive to DVD according to Nero Support I had to reconfig my
> system
> and get a new DVD... The nerve huh?
> Since Im a novice and gullable.
> I thought going to different newsgroups might offer greater diverse help.
> Well I now know so ill try to not to bounce all over.
> Thanks for your info.
>
>
> --
> Thanks,
> ponderxpo
>
>
> "peterk" wrote:
>
>> TrueImage will backup or Image your whole HD to another HD and make that
>> drive bootable.
>> It will also allow you to make incremental backups of certain sections of
>> your HD and place that into any directory that you create or it will
>> create
>> a special partition which will not show up in Explorer.These files will
>> be
>> in an image format.
>> It also lets you activate a Recovery Manager that does not need XP to run
>> from where you can "restore" that image.
>> Images can be burned to a DVD-R/RW disc
>> INCD is a program that is usually included in NERO ver 6...........which
>> you
>> say you already have..........check!!
>> You have posted in every newsgroup here............it is best to stick to
>> one and add to it as people who do help will check back but not many will
>> bother with the same type of questions in 6 diffferent newsgroups.
>> peterk
>>
>>
>> --
>> Never trust a computer you can't throw out the window. - Steve Wozniak
>> "ponderxpo" <ponderxpo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:E6806D2E-C443-4278-A2E4-37E63E407D53@microsoft.com...
>> >I think Acronis mentions about backing up in a "INCD" thing ...
>> > What is INCD? Do I have to reconvifure something to "INCD" mode?
>> > --
>> > Thanks,
>> > ponderxpo
>> >
>> >
>> > "Mike Hall (MS-MVP)" wrote:
>> >
>> >> Windows Backup is not suitable for full system backups.. use something
>> >> like
>> >> Acronis TrueImage
>> >>
>> >> http://www.acronis.com/
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Mike Hall
>> >> MVP - Windows Shell/User
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "ponderxpo" <ponderxpo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:88B5D481-A625-49F3-9135-A4B87E9375BE@microsoft.com...
>> >> > Because MSFT dose not allow not full hard drive B/u on cd/dvd
>> >> > Can full hard drive be offloaded to say external USB Hard drive or
>> >> > Tape
>> >> > device
>> >> > for reboot disaster revovery?
>> >> >
>> >> > --
>> >> > Thanks,
>> >> > ponderxpo
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>>
>>
>>
Anonymous
August 18, 2005 12:58:01 AM

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.newusers (More info?)

Peterk ... I concur about aAonis and will consider a hard external hard drive
that Mike Hall (MS-MVP) mentioned ... WD duel option or Master 1 touch II

In between the clutter I listen to you guys.
--
Thanks,
ponderxpo


"peterk" wrote:

> Your welcome
> TrueImage is a good investment to make..............it has saved my bacon a
> few times.
> With the low price of HD nowadays it is fairly reasonable cost to purchase
> one and using TrueImage image your HD to the new one and then remove the new
> one and keep in a safe place.Every once in awhile reconnect the new drive
> and reimage
> When(not IF) something goes wrong and you cant boot,you simply unplug the HD
> and install the imaged drive and your up and running in minutes.
> peterk
>
> --
> Never trust a computer you can't throw out the window. - Steve Wozniak
> "ponderxpo" <ponderxpo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:BAF24058-7855-4096-8650-D2C93BD837E4@microsoft.com...
> > Petro ... Yes I have Nero full version but I found out that you cant
> > Backup
> > full Hard drive to DVD according to Nero Support I had to reconfig my
> > system
> > and get a new DVD... The nerve huh?
> > Since Im a novice and gullable.
> > I thought going to different newsgroups might offer greater diverse help.
> > Well I now know so ill try to not to bounce all over.
> > Thanks for your info.
> >
> >
> > --
> > Thanks,
> > ponderxpo
> >
> >
> > "peterk" wrote:
> >
> >> TrueImage will backup or Image your whole HD to another HD and make that
> >> drive bootable.
> >> It will also allow you to make incremental backups of certain sections of
> >> your HD and place that into any directory that you create or it will
> >> create
> >> a special partition which will not show up in Explorer.These files will
> >> be
> >> in an image format.
> >> It also lets you activate a Recovery Manager that does not need XP to run
> >> from where you can "restore" that image.
> >> Images can be burned to a DVD-R/RW disc
> >> INCD is a program that is usually included in NERO ver 6...........which
> >> you
> >> say you already have..........check!!
> >> You have posted in every newsgroup here............it is best to stick to
> >> one and add to it as people who do help will check back but not many will
> >> bother with the same type of questions in 6 diffferent newsgroups.
> >> peterk
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Never trust a computer you can't throw out the window. - Steve Wozniak
> >> "ponderxpo" <ponderxpo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:E6806D2E-C443-4278-A2E4-37E63E407D53@microsoft.com...
> >> >I think Acronis mentions about backing up in a "INCD" thing ...
> >> > What is INCD? Do I have to reconvifure something to "INCD" mode?
> >> > --
> >> > Thanks,
> >> > ponderxpo
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > "Mike Hall (MS-MVP)" wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Windows Backup is not suitable for full system backups.. use something
> >> >> like
> >> >> Acronis TrueImage
> >> >>
> >> >> http://www.acronis.com/
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> --
> >> >> Mike Hall
> >> >> MVP - Windows Shell/User
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> "ponderxpo" <ponderxpo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> >> news:88B5D481-A625-49F3-9135-A4B87E9375BE@microsoft.com...
> >> >> > Because MSFT dose not allow not full hard drive B/u on cd/dvd
> >> >> > Can full hard drive be offloaded to say external USB Hard drive or
> >> >> > Tape
> >> >> > device
> >> >> > for reboot disaster revovery?
> >> >> >
> >> >> > --
> >> >> > Thanks,
> >> >> > ponderxpo
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>
>
Anonymous
August 18, 2005 3:00:01 AM

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.newusers (More info?)

It doesn't even have to be external.........it can be hooked up as a
slave,imaged and then removed.
any old HD will do this
cost less
peterk

--
Never trust a computer you can't throw out the window. - Steve Wozniak
"ponderxpo" <ponderxpo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:892AE233-DD9B-42BD-89C7-5687F6D010C9@microsoft.com...
> Peterk ... I concur about aAonis and will consider a hard external hard
> drive
> that Mike Hall (MS-MVP) mentioned ... WD duel option or Master 1 touch II
>
> In between the clutter I listen to you guys.
> --
> Thanks,
> ponderxpo
>
>
> "peterk" wrote:
>
>> Your welcome
>> TrueImage is a good investment to make..............it has saved my bacon
>> a
>> few times.
>> With the low price of HD nowadays it is fairly reasonable cost to
>> purchase
>> one and using TrueImage image your HD to the new one and then remove the
>> new
>> one and keep in a safe place.Every once in awhile reconnect the new drive
>> and reimage
>> When(not IF) something goes wrong and you cant boot,you simply unplug the
>> HD
>> and install the imaged drive and your up and running in minutes.
>> peterk
>>
>> --
>> Never trust a computer you can't throw out the window. - Steve Wozniak
>> "ponderxpo" <ponderxpo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:BAF24058-7855-4096-8650-D2C93BD837E4@microsoft.com...
>> > Petro ... Yes I have Nero full version but I found out that you cant
>> > Backup
>> > full Hard drive to DVD according to Nero Support I had to reconfig my
>> > system
>> > and get a new DVD... The nerve huh?
>> > Since Im a novice and gullable.
>> > I thought going to different newsgroups might offer greater diverse
>> > help.
>> > Well I now know so ill try to not to bounce all over.
>> > Thanks for your info.
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > Thanks,
>> > ponderxpo
>> >
>> >
>> > "peterk" wrote:
>> >
>> >> TrueImage will backup or Image your whole HD to another HD and make
>> >> that
>> >> drive bootable.
>> >> It will also allow you to make incremental backups of certain sections
>> >> of
>> >> your HD and place that into any directory that you create or it will
>> >> create
>> >> a special partition which will not show up in Explorer.These files
>> >> will
>> >> be
>> >> in an image format.
>> >> It also lets you activate a Recovery Manager that does not need XP to
>> >> run
>> >> from where you can "restore" that image.
>> >> Images can be burned to a DVD-R/RW disc
>> >> INCD is a program that is usually included in NERO ver
>> >> 6...........which
>> >> you
>> >> say you already have..........check!!
>> >> You have posted in every newsgroup here............it is best to stick
>> >> to
>> >> one and add to it as people who do help will check back but not many
>> >> will
>> >> bother with the same type of questions in 6 diffferent newsgroups.
>> >> peterk
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Never trust a computer you can't throw out the window. - Steve Wozniak
>> >> "ponderxpo" <ponderxpo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:E6806D2E-C443-4278-A2E4-37E63E407D53@microsoft.com...
>> >> >I think Acronis mentions about backing up in a "INCD" thing ...
>> >> > What is INCD? Do I have to reconvifure something to "INCD" mode?
>> >> > --
>> >> > Thanks,
>> >> > ponderxpo
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > "Mike Hall (MS-MVP)" wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> Windows Backup is not suitable for full system backups.. use
>> >> >> something
>> >> >> like
>> >> >> Acronis TrueImage
>> >> >>
>> >> >> http://www.acronis.com/
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> --
>> >> >> Mike Hall
>> >> >> MVP - Windows Shell/User
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> "ponderxpo" <ponderxpo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> >> >> news:88B5D481-A625-49F3-9135-A4B87E9375BE@microsoft.com...
>> >> >> > Because MSFT dose not allow not full hard drive B/u on cd/dvd
>> >> >> > Can full hard drive be offloaded to say external USB Hard drive
>> >> >> > or
>> >> >> > Tape
>> >> >> > device
>> >> >> > for reboot disaster revovery?
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > --
>> >> >> > Thanks,
>> >> >> > ponderxpo
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>>
>>
>>
Anonymous
August 18, 2005 3:57:20 AM

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.newusers (More info?)

Question
I went to Maxtor Page ...
http://maxtor.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/maxtor.cfg/php/endus...

"Can I boot to the USB Personal Storage as the primary drive?
Answer
The Microsoft Windows operating system families (98SE,ME,2000,XP) do not
support USB2 as a boot drive or primary system drive. "

Now I get another curv ball ... about rebooting from from external hard drive.
I like the idea obout rebooting from external in case PC flops out.

Whats with this Maxtor or MSFT? Can we reboot or Not?
Dose nonsupport mean " Save money on my car insurance I can do it?

I was going good today until I got on pc for one more TRIP

--
Thanks,
ponderxpo


"peterk" wrote:

> It doesn't even have to be external.........it can be hooked up as a
> slave,imaged and then removed.
> any old HD will do this
> cost less
> peterk
>
> --
> Never trust a computer you can't throw out the window. - Steve Wozniak
> "ponderxpo" <ponderxpo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:892AE233-DD9B-42BD-89C7-5687F6D010C9@microsoft.com...
> > Peterk ... I concur about aAonis and will consider a hard external hard
> > drive
> > that Mike Hall (MS-MVP) mentioned ... WD duel option or Master 1 touch II
> >
> > In between the clutter I listen to you guys.
> > --
> > Thanks,
> > ponderxpo
> >
> >
> > "peterk" wrote:
> >
> >> Your welcome
> >> TrueImage is a good investment to make..............it has saved my bacon
> >> a
> >> few times.
> >> With the low price of HD nowadays it is fairly reasonable cost to
> >> purchase
> >> one and using TrueImage image your HD to the new one and then remove the
> >> new
> >> one and keep in a safe place.Every once in awhile reconnect the new drive
> >> and reimage
> >> When(not IF) something goes wrong and you cant boot,you simply unplug the
> >> HD
> >> and install the imaged drive and your up and running in minutes.
> >> peterk
> >>
> >> --
> >> Never trust a computer you can't throw out the window. - Steve Wozniak
> >> "ponderxpo" <ponderxpo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:BAF24058-7855-4096-8650-D2C93BD837E4@microsoft.com...
> >> > Petro ... Yes I have Nero full version but I found out that you cant
> >> > Backup
> >> > full Hard drive to DVD according to Nero Support I had to reconfig my
> >> > system
> >> > and get a new DVD... The nerve huh?
> >> > Since Im a novice and gullable.
> >> > I thought going to different newsgroups might offer greater diverse
> >> > help.
> >> > Well I now know so ill try to not to bounce all over.
> >> > Thanks for your info.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > Thanks,
> >> > ponderxpo
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > "peterk" wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> TrueImage will backup or Image your whole HD to another HD and make
> >> >> that
> >> >> drive bootable.
> >> >> It will also allow you to make incremental backups of certain sections
> >> >> of
> >> >> your HD and place that into any directory that you create or it will
> >> >> create
> >> >> a special partition which will not show up in Explorer.These files
> >> >> will
> >> >> be
> >> >> in an image format.
> >> >> It also lets you activate a Recovery Manager that does not need XP to
> >> >> run
> >> >> from where you can "restore" that image.
> >> >> Images can be burned to a DVD-R/RW disc
> >> >> INCD is a program that is usually included in NERO ver
> >> >> 6...........which
> >> >> you
> >> >> say you already have..........check!!
> >> >> You have posted in every newsgroup here............it is best to stick
> >> >> to
> >> >> one and add to it as people who do help will check back but not many
> >> >> will
> >> >> bother with the same type of questions in 6 diffferent newsgroups.
> >> >> peterk
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> --
> >> >> Never trust a computer you can't throw out the window. - Steve Wozniak
> >> >> "ponderxpo" <ponderxpo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> >> news:E6806D2E-C443-4278-A2E4-37E63E407D53@microsoft.com...
> >> >> >I think Acronis mentions about backing up in a "INCD" thing ...
> >> >> > What is INCD? Do I have to reconvifure something to "INCD" mode?
> >> >> > --
> >> >> > Thanks,
> >> >> > ponderxpo
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > "Mike Hall (MS-MVP)" wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> Windows Backup is not suitable for full system backups.. use
> >> >> >> something
> >> >> >> like
> >> >> >> Acronis TrueImage
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> http://www.acronis.com/
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> --
> >> >> >> Mike Hall
> >> >> >> MVP - Windows Shell/User
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> "ponderxpo" <ponderxpo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> >> >> news:88B5D481-A625-49F3-9135-A4B87E9375BE@microsoft.com...
> >> >> >> > Because MSFT dose not allow not full hard drive B/u on cd/dvd
> >> >> >> > Can full hard drive be offloaded to say external USB Hard drive
> >> >> >> > or
> >> >> >> > Tape
> >> >> >> > device
> >> >> >> > for reboot disaster revovery?
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > --
> >> >> >> > Thanks,
> >> >> >> > ponderxpo
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>
>
Anonymous
August 18, 2005 11:22:14 AM

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.newusers (More info?)

You can NOT boot Windows XP from an external hard drive.

--
Regards,

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User

Quote from: George Ankner
"If you knew as much as you think you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!"

"ponderxpo" <ponderxpo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:6D6DF307-82E7-4664-B648-D8266441E65A@microsoft.com...
> Question
> I went to Maxtor Page ...
> http://maxtor.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/maxtor.cfg/php/endus...
>
> "Can I boot to the USB Personal Storage as the primary drive?
> Answer
> The Microsoft Windows operating system families (98SE,ME,2000,XP) do not
> support USB2 as a boot drive or primary system drive. "
>
> Now I get another curv ball ... about rebooting from from external hard
> drive.
> I like the idea obout rebooting from external in case PC flops out.
>
> Whats with this Maxtor or MSFT? Can we reboot or Not?
> Dose nonsupport mean " Save money on my car insurance I can do it?
>
> I was going good today until I got on pc for one more TRIP
>
> --
> Thanks,
> ponderxpo
>
>
> "peterk" wrote:
>
>> It doesn't even have to be external.........it can be hooked up as a
>> slave,imaged and then removed.
>> any old HD will do this
>> cost less
>> peterk
>>
>> --
>> Never trust a computer you can't throw out the window. - Steve Wozniak
>> "ponderxpo" <ponderxpo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:892AE233-DD9B-42BD-89C7-5687F6D010C9@microsoft.com...
>> > Peterk ... I concur about aAonis and will consider a hard external hard
>> > drive
>> > that Mike Hall (MS-MVP) mentioned ... WD duel option or Master 1 touch
>> > II
>> >
>> > In between the clutter I listen to you guys.
>> > --
>> > Thanks,
>> > ponderxpo
>> >
>> >
>> > "peterk" wrote:
>> >
>> >> Your welcome
>> >> TrueImage is a good investment to make..............it has saved my
>> >> bacon
>> >> a
>> >> few times.
>> >> With the low price of HD nowadays it is fairly reasonable cost to
>> >> purchase
>> >> one and using TrueImage image your HD to the new one and then remove
>> >> the
>> >> new
>> >> one and keep in a safe place.Every once in awhile reconnect the new
>> >> drive
>> >> and reimage
>> >> When(not IF) something goes wrong and you cant boot,you simply unplug
>> >> the
>> >> HD
>> >> and install the imaged drive and your up and running in minutes.
>> >> peterk
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Never trust a computer you can't throw out the window. - Steve Wozniak
>> >> "ponderxpo" <ponderxpo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:BAF24058-7855-4096-8650-D2C93BD837E4@microsoft.com...
>> >> > Petro ... Yes I have Nero full version but I found out that you cant
>> >> > Backup
>> >> > full Hard drive to DVD according to Nero Support I had to reconfig
>> >> > my
>> >> > system
>> >> > and get a new DVD... The nerve huh?
>> >> > Since Im a novice and gullable.
>> >> > I thought going to different newsgroups might offer greater diverse
>> >> > help.
>> >> > Well I now know so ill try to not to bounce all over.
>> >> > Thanks for your info.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > --
>> >> > Thanks,
>> >> > ponderxpo
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > "peterk" wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> TrueImage will backup or Image your whole HD to another HD and make
>> >> >> that
>> >> >> drive bootable.
>> >> >> It will also allow you to make incremental backups of certain
>> >> >> sections
>> >> >> of
>> >> >> your HD and place that into any directory that you create or it
>> >> >> will
>> >> >> create
>> >> >> a special partition which will not show up in Explorer.These files
>> >> >> will
>> >> >> be
>> >> >> in an image format.
>> >> >> It also lets you activate a Recovery Manager that does not need XP
>> >> >> to
>> >> >> run
>> >> >> from where you can "restore" that image.
>> >> >> Images can be burned to a DVD-R/RW disc
>> >> >> INCD is a program that is usually included in NERO ver
>> >> >> 6...........which
>> >> >> you
>> >> >> say you already have..........check!!
>> >> >> You have posted in every newsgroup here............it is best to
>> >> >> stick
>> >> >> to
>> >> >> one and add to it as people who do help will check back but not
>> >> >> many
>> >> >> will
>> >> >> bother with the same type of questions in 6 diffferent newsgroups.
>> >> >> peterk
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> --
>> >> >> Never trust a computer you can't throw out the window. - Steve
>> >> >> Wozniak
>> >> >> "ponderxpo" <ponderxpo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> >> >> news:E6806D2E-C443-4278-A2E4-37E63E407D53@microsoft.com...
>> >> >> >I think Acronis mentions about backing up in a "INCD" thing ...
>> >> >> > What is INCD? Do I have to reconvifure something to "INCD" mode?
>> >> >> > --
>> >> >> > Thanks,
>> >> >> > ponderxpo
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > "Mike Hall (MS-MVP)" wrote:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> Windows Backup is not suitable for full system backups.. use
>> >> >> >> something
>> >> >> >> like
>> >> >> >> Acronis TrueImage
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> http://www.acronis.com/
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> --
>> >> >> >> Mike Hall
>> >> >> >> MVP - Windows Shell/User
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> "ponderxpo" <ponderxpo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
>> >> >> >> message
>> >> >> >> news:88B5D481-A625-49F3-9135-A4B87E9375BE@microsoft.com...
>> >> >> >> > Because MSFT dose not allow not full hard drive B/u on cd/dvd
>> >> >> >> > Can full hard drive be offloaded to say external USB Hard
>> >> >> >> > drive
>> >> >> >> > or
>> >> >> >> > Tape
>> >> >> >> > device
>> >> >> >> > for reboot disaster revovery?
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > --
>> >> >> >> > Thanks,
>> >> >> >> > ponderxpo
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>>
>>
>>
Anonymous
August 18, 2005 11:48:13 AM

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So Now whats left rebooting from another internal hard drive?
Is that the last straw from Recovery of total hard drive?

Or maybe Im thinking rebooting is same as full(mirror image) hard drive
restore/recovery?
THe main reason I posted was to find a solution so total "C" Harddrive can b
e restored ( that includes win X2 Pro as well as all other prog apps/data)

Acronis, BootNG, ....etc claim they have reboot powers for hard drives so
this led me to believe what others were recommending. But Now some
manufactures exclude externals using Firewire& USB.

I have a custum built PC w/ complicated extras pluss software I don't even
know were it came from.
It would take me quite a long time to recover with out a good recovery system
Can you offer any good solutions that allow me to recovery quite easly in
case my "C" drive or PC has problems?

I hope this is the end of the trail ...
--
Thanks,
ponderxpo


"Richard Urban [MVP]" wrote:

> You can NOT boot Windows XP from an external hard drive.
>
> --
> Regards,
>
> Richard Urban
> Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
>
> Quote from: George Ankner
> "If you knew as much as you think you know,
> You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!"
>
> "ponderxpo" <ponderxpo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:6D6DF307-82E7-4664-B648-D8266441E65A@microsoft.com...
> > Question
> > I went to Maxtor Page ...
> > http://maxtor.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/maxtor.cfg/php/endus...
> >
> > "Can I boot to the USB Personal Storage as the primary drive?
> > Answer
> > The Microsoft Windows operating system families (98SE,ME,2000,XP) do not
> > support USB2 as a boot drive or primary system drive. "
> >
> > Now I get another curv ball ... about rebooting from from external hard
> > drive.
> > I like the idea obout rebooting from external in case PC flops out.
> >
> > Whats with this Maxtor or MSFT? Can we reboot or Not?
> > Dose nonsupport mean " Save money on my car insurance I can do it?
> >
> > I was going good today until I got on pc for one more TRIP
> >
> > --
> > Thanks,
> > ponderxpo
> >
> >
> > "peterk" wrote:
> >
> >> It doesn't even have to be external.........it can be hooked up as a
> >> slave,imaged and then removed.
> >> any old HD will do this
> >> cost less
> >> peterk
> >>
> >> --
> >> Never trust a computer you can't throw out the window. - Steve Wozniak
> >> "ponderxpo" <ponderxpo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:892AE233-DD9B-42BD-89C7-5687F6D010C9@microsoft.com...
> >> > Peterk ... I concur about aAonis and will consider a hard external hard
> >> > drive
> >> > that Mike Hall (MS-MVP) mentioned ... WD duel option or Master 1 touch
> >> > II
> >> >
> >> > In between the clutter I listen to you guys.
> >> > --
> >> > Thanks,
> >> > ponderxpo
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > "peterk" wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Your welcome
> >> >> TrueImage is a good investment to make..............it has saved my
> >> >> bacon
> >> >> a
> >> >> few times.
> >> >> With the low price of HD nowadays it is fairly reasonable cost to
> >> >> purchase
> >> >> one and using TrueImage image your HD to the new one and then remove
> >> >> the
> >> >> new
> >> >> one and keep in a safe place.Every once in awhile reconnect the new
> >> >> drive
> >> >> and reimage
> >> >> When(not IF) something goes wrong and you cant boot,you simply unplug
> >> >> the
> >> >> HD
> >> >> and install the imaged drive and your up and running in minutes.
> >> >> peterk
> >> >>
> >> >> --
> >> >> Never trust a computer you can't throw out the window. - Steve Wozniak
> >> >> "ponderxpo" <ponderxpo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> >> news:BAF24058-7855-4096-8650-D2C93BD837E4@microsoft.com...
> >> >> > Petro ... Yes I have Nero full version but I found out that you cant
> >> >> > Backup
> >> >> > full Hard drive to DVD according to Nero Support I had to reconfig
> >> >> > my
> >> >> > system
> >> >> > and get a new DVD... The nerve huh?
> >> >> > Since Im a novice and gullable.
> >> >> > I thought going to different newsgroups might offer greater diverse
> >> >> > help.
> >> >> > Well I now know so ill try to not to bounce all over.
> >> >> > Thanks for your info.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > --
> >> >> > Thanks,
> >> >> > ponderxpo
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > "peterk" wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> TrueImage will backup or Image your whole HD to another HD and make
> >> >> >> that
> >> >> >> drive bootable.
> >> >> >> It will also allow you to make incremental backups of certain
> >> >> >> sections
> >> >> >> of
> >> >> >> your HD and place that into any directory that you create or it
> >> >> >> will
> >> >> >> create
> >> >> >> a special partition which will not show up in Explorer.These files
> >> >> >> will
> >> >> >> be
> >> >> >> in an image format.
> >> >> >> It also lets you activate a Recovery Manager that does not need XP
> >> >> >> to
> >> >> >> run
> >> >> >> from where you can "restore" that image.
> >> >> >> Images can be burned to a DVD-R/RW disc
> >> >> >> INCD is a program that is usually included in NERO ver
> >> >> >> 6...........which
> >> >> >> you
> >> >> >> say you already have..........check!!
> >> >> >> You have posted in every newsgroup here............it is best to
> >> >> >> stick
> >> >> >> to
> >> >> >> one and add to it as people who do help will check back but not
> >> >> >> many
> >> >> >> will
> >> >> >> bother with the same type of questions in 6 diffferent newsgroups.
> >> >> >> peterk
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> --
> >> >> >> Never trust a computer you can't throw out the window. - Steve
> >> >> >> Wozniak
> >> >> >> "ponderxpo" <ponderxpo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> >> >> news:E6806D2E-C443-4278-A2E4-37E63E407D53@microsoft.com...
> >> >> >> >I think Acronis mentions about backing up in a "INCD" thing ...
> >> >> >> > What is INCD? Do I have to reconvifure something to "INCD" mode?
> >> >> >> > --
> >> >> >> > Thanks,
> >> >> >> > ponderxpo
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > "Mike Hall (MS-MVP)" wrote:
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> Windows Backup is not suitable for full system backups.. use
> >> >> >> >> something
> >> >> >> >> like
> >> >> >> >> Acronis TrueImage
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> http://www.acronis.com/
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> --
> >> >> >> >> Mike Hall
> >> >> >> >> MVP - Windows Shell/User
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> "ponderxpo" <ponderxpo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
> >> >> >> >> message
> >> >> >> >> news:88B5D481-A625-49F3-9135-A4B87E9375BE@microsoft.com...
> >> >> >> >> > Because MSFT dose not allow not full hard drive B/u on cd/dvd
> >> >> >> >> > Can full hard drive be offloaded to say external USB Hard
> >> >> >> >> > drive
> >> >> >> >> > or
> >> >> >> >> > Tape
> >> >> >> >> > device
> >> >> >> >> > for reboot disaster revovery?
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> > --
> >> >> >> >> > Thanks,
> >> >> >> >> > ponderxpo
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>
>
Anonymous
August 18, 2005 2:54:53 PM

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Ponder

I don't remember suggesting an external hard drive, but I did suggest
Acronis.. reports on it are good, but I never use anything like that
personally, preferring to do a fresh install in the event of serious
problems..

With Windows Backup, it is possible to do create a backup of important stuff
to the hard drive and then use Nero or other CD writing software to transfer
it to CD/DVD.. to be honest, it is quicker just to save stuff to CD using
Nero and forget about Windows Backup.. this program has its uses, but in
times past, backups made by a previous version of Windows have tended not to
be usable by the next version, that is to say, W95 backups could not be
utilised in W98..

The one important factor in any backup is that it has to be updated to
reflect current running.. a system backed up just after the initial install
would still require that all programs installed initially would have to be
re-installed.. doing backups at any point thereafter could well carry hidden
problems forward.. that is why I always clean install..

I utilise two hard drives, saving all important documents and personal stuff
to the slave drive.. of course, a hard drive can fail at any time, but slave
drives do not get the daily workout that a primary boot drive gets..
archived material, documents or groups of whatever that are not likely to
change, for example a once in a lifetime trip to Australia, get saved to CD
and left on the drive for easy access..

I will readily admit that my way takes longer, but it is amazing how much
one installs a second time compared to the flotsam and jetsam picked up
initially..


--
Mike Hall
MVP - Windows Shell/User


"ponderxpo" <ponderxpo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:892AE233-DD9B-42BD-89C7-5687F6D010C9@microsoft.com...
> Peterk ... I concur about aAonis and will consider a hard external hard
> drive
> that Mike Hall (MS-MVP) mentioned ... WD duel option or Master 1 touch II
>
> In between the clutter I listen to you guys.
> --
> Thanks,
> ponderxpo
>
>
> "peterk" wrote:
>
>> Your welcome
>> TrueImage is a good investment to make..............it has saved my bacon
>> a
>> few times.
>> With the low price of HD nowadays it is fairly reasonable cost to
>> purchase
>> one and using TrueImage image your HD to the new one and then remove the
>> new
>> one and keep in a safe place.Every once in awhile reconnect the new drive
>> and reimage
>> When(not IF) something goes wrong and you cant boot,you simply unplug the
>> HD
>> and install the imaged drive and your up and running in minutes.
>> peterk
>>
>> --
>> Never trust a computer you can't throw out the window. - Steve Wozniak
>> "ponderxpo" <ponderxpo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:BAF24058-7855-4096-8650-D2C93BD837E4@microsoft.com...
>> > Petro ... Yes I have Nero full version but I found out that you cant
>> > Backup
>> > full Hard drive to DVD according to Nero Support I had to reconfig my
>> > system
>> > and get a new DVD... The nerve huh?
>> > Since Im a novice and gullable.
>> > I thought going to different newsgroups might offer greater diverse
>> > help.
>> > Well I now know so ill try to not to bounce all over.
>> > Thanks for your info.
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > Thanks,
>> > ponderxpo
>> >
>> >
>> > "peterk" wrote:
>> >
>> >> TrueImage will backup or Image your whole HD to another HD and make
>> >> that
>> >> drive bootable.
>> >> It will also allow you to make incremental backups of certain sections
>> >> of
>> >> your HD and place that into any directory that you create or it will
>> >> create
>> >> a special partition which will not show up in Explorer.These files
>> >> will
>> >> be
>> >> in an image format.
>> >> It also lets you activate a Recovery Manager that does not need XP to
>> >> run
>> >> from where you can "restore" that image.
>> >> Images can be burned to a DVD-R/RW disc
>> >> INCD is a program that is usually included in NERO ver
>> >> 6...........which
>> >> you
>> >> say you already have..........check!!
>> >> You have posted in every newsgroup here............it is best to stick
>> >> to
>> >> one and add to it as people who do help will check back but not many
>> >> will
>> >> bother with the same type of questions in 6 diffferent newsgroups.
>> >> peterk
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Never trust a computer you can't throw out the window. - Steve Wozniak
>> >> "ponderxpo" <ponderxpo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:E6806D2E-C443-4278-A2E4-37E63E407D53@microsoft.com...
>> >> >I think Acronis mentions about backing up in a "INCD" thing ...
>> >> > What is INCD? Do I have to reconvifure something to "INCD" mode?
>> >> > --
>> >> > Thanks,
>> >> > ponderxpo
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > "Mike Hall (MS-MVP)" wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> Windows Backup is not suitable for full system backups.. use
>> >> >> something
>> >> >> like
>> >> >> Acronis TrueImage
>> >> >>
>> >> >> http://www.acronis.com/
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> --
>> >> >> Mike Hall
>> >> >> MVP - Windows Shell/User
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> "ponderxpo" <ponderxpo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> >> >> news:88B5D481-A625-49F3-9135-A4B87E9375BE@microsoft.com...
>> >> >> > Because MSFT dose not allow not full hard drive B/u on cd/dvd
>> >> >> > Can full hard drive be offloaded to say external USB Hard drive
>> >> >> > or
>> >> >> > Tape
>> >> >> > device
>> >> >> > for reboot disaster revovery?
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > --
>> >> >> > Thanks,
>> >> >> > ponderxpo
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>>
>>
>>
Anonymous
August 18, 2005 2:54:54 PM

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.newusers (More info?)

Thank you all ... I have come to the end of my ummm backup-end of the full
trail.
Reboot/Recovery/Restore/Reimage/Reclone ..... and Redone!
--
Thanks,
ponderxpo


"Mike Hall (MS-MVP)" wrote:

> Ponder
>
> I don't remember suggesting an external hard drive, but I did suggest
> Acronis.. reports on it are good, but I never use anything like that
> personally, preferring to do a fresh install in the event of serious
> problems..
>
> With Windows Backup, it is possible to do create a backup of important stuff
> to the hard drive and then use Nero or other CD writing software to transfer
> it to CD/DVD.. to be honest, it is quicker just to save stuff to CD using
> Nero and forget about Windows Backup.. this program has its uses, but in
> times past, backups made by a previous version of Windows have tended not to
> be usable by the next version, that is to say, W95 backups could not be
> utilised in W98..
>
> The one important factor in any backup is that it has to be updated to
> reflect current running.. a system backed up just after the initial install
> would still require that all programs installed initially would have to be
> re-installed.. doing backups at any point thereafter could well carry hidden
> problems forward.. that is why I always clean install..
>
> I utilise two hard drives, saving all important documents and personal stuff
> to the slave drive.. of course, a hard drive can fail at any time, but slave
> drives do not get the daily workout that a primary boot drive gets..
> archived material, documents or groups of whatever that are not likely to
> change, for example a once in a lifetime trip to Australia, get saved to CD
> and left on the drive for easy access..
>
> I will readily admit that my way takes longer, but it is amazing how much
> one installs a second time compared to the flotsam and jetsam picked up
> initially..
>
>
> --
> Mike Hall
> MVP - Windows Shell/User
>
>
> "ponderxpo" <ponderxpo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:892AE233-DD9B-42BD-89C7-5687F6D010C9@microsoft.com...
> > Peterk ... I concur about aAonis and will consider a hard external hard
> > drive
> > that Mike Hall (MS-MVP) mentioned ... WD duel option or Master 1 touch II
> >
> > In between the clutter I listen to you guys.
> > --
> > Thanks,
> > ponderxpo
> >
> >
> > "peterk" wrote:
> >
> >> Your welcome
> >> TrueImage is a good investment to make..............it has saved my bacon
> >> a
> >> few times.
> >> With the low price of HD nowadays it is fairly reasonable cost to
> >> purchase
> >> one and using TrueImage image your HD to the new one and then remove the
> >> new
> >> one and keep in a safe place.Every once in awhile reconnect the new drive
> >> and reimage
> >> When(not IF) something goes wrong and you cant boot,you simply unplug the
> >> HD
> >> and install the imaged drive and your up and running in minutes.
> >> peterk
> >>
> >> --
> >> Never trust a computer you can't throw out the window. - Steve Wozniak
> >> "ponderxpo" <ponderxpo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:BAF24058-7855-4096-8650-D2C93BD837E4@microsoft.com...
> >> > Petro ... Yes I have Nero full version but I found out that you cant
> >> > Backup
> >> > full Hard drive to DVD according to Nero Support I had to reconfig my
> >> > system
> >> > and get a new DVD... The nerve huh?
> >> > Since Im a novice and gullable.
> >> > I thought going to different newsgroups might offer greater diverse
> >> > help.
> >> > Well I now know so ill try to not to bounce all over.
> >> > Thanks for your info.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > Thanks,
> >> > ponderxpo
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > "peterk" wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> TrueImage will backup or Image your whole HD to another HD and make
> >> >> that
> >> >> drive bootable.
> >> >> It will also allow you to make incremental backups of certain sections
> >> >> of
> >> >> your HD and place that into any directory that you create or it will
> >> >> create
> >> >> a special partition which will not show up in Explorer.These files
> >> >> will
> >> >> be
> >> >> in an image format.
> >> >> It also lets you activate a Recovery Manager that does not need XP to
> >> >> run
> >> >> from where you can "restore" that image.
> >> >> Images can be burned to a DVD-R/RW disc
> >> >> INCD is a program that is usually included in NERO ver
> >> >> 6...........which
> >> >> you
> >> >> say you already have..........check!!
> >> >> You have posted in every newsgroup here............it is best to stick
> >> >> to
> >> >> one and add to it as people who do help will check back but not many
> >> >> will
> >> >> bother with the same type of questions in 6 diffferent newsgroups.
> >> >> peterk
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> --
> >> >> Never trust a computer you can't throw out the window. - Steve Wozniak
> >> >> "ponderxpo" <ponderxpo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> >> news:E6806D2E-C443-4278-A2E4-37E63E407D53@microsoft.com...
> >> >> >I think Acronis mentions about backing up in a "INCD" thing ...
> >> >> > What is INCD? Do I have to reconvifure something to "INCD" mode?
> >> >> > --
> >> >> > Thanks,
> >> >> > ponderxpo
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > "Mike Hall (MS-MVP)" wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> Windows Backup is not suitable for full system backups.. use
> >> >> >> something
> >> >> >> like
> >> >> >> Acronis TrueImage
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> http://www.acronis.com/
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> --
> >> >> >> Mike Hall
> >> >> >> MVP - Windows Shell/User
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> "ponderxpo" <ponderxpo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> >> >> news:88B5D481-A625-49F3-9135-A4B87E9375BE@microsoft.com...
> >> >> >> > Because MSFT dose not allow not full hard drive B/u on cd/dvd
> >> >> >> > Can full hard drive be offloaded to say external USB Hard drive
> >> >> >> > or
> >> >> >> > Tape
> >> >> >> > device
> >> >> >> > for reboot disaster revovery?
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > --
> >> >> >> > Thanks,
> >> >> >> > ponderxpo
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>
>
Anonymous
August 18, 2005 6:42:07 PM

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"ponderxpo" <ponderxpo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:95DF903D-F2E6-424F-9504-C66AF934A06F@microsoft.com
> So Now whats left rebooting from another internal hard drive?
> Is that the last straw from Recovery of total hard drive?

You can boot from a WinXP CD.

--
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Anonymous
August 19, 2005 12:35:02 AM

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Ponder
I use 2 hard drives plus one for cloning the boot drive.Once I have cloned
the boot drive where XP resides using Acronis TrueImage I remove this drive
and keep it in a safe place.If or when I have a major problem and XP will
not boot I remove that HD and install the cloned drive in its
place..........it boots without problems.I update that image about every 2
weeks.
I also use trueimage for backing up partitions.......to a secure zone that
Acronis TrueImage creates.
For normal work files type backups I just use the XP backup program backing
up to a formatted DVD-RW....using INCD from Nero to format the disc
first.....this also works with CD-RW.
You of course need to find what works for you................
peterk

--
Never trust a computer you can't throw out the window. - Steve Wozniak
"ponderxpo" <ponderxpo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:985149D2-990A-4B54-91E0-BBABAB678CCF@microsoft.com...
> Thank you all ... I have come to the end of my ummm backup-end of the full
> trail.
> Reboot/Recovery/Restore/Reimage/Reclone ..... and Redone!
> --
> Thanks,
> ponderxpo
>
>
> "Mike Hall (MS-MVP)" wrote:
>
>> Ponder
>>
>> I don't remember suggesting an external hard drive, but I did suggest
>> Acronis.. reports on it are good, but I never use anything like that
>> personally, preferring to do a fresh install in the event of serious
>> problems..
>>
>> With Windows Backup, it is possible to do create a backup of important
>> stuff
>> to the hard drive and then use Nero or other CD writing software to
>> transfer
>> it to CD/DVD.. to be honest, it is quicker just to save stuff to CD using
>> Nero and forget about Windows Backup.. this program has its uses, but in
>> times past, backups made by a previous version of Windows have tended not
>> to
>> be usable by the next version, that is to say, W95 backups could not be
>> utilised in W98..
>>
>> The one important factor in any backup is that it has to be updated to
>> reflect current running.. a system backed up just after the initial
>> install
>> would still require that all programs installed initially would have to
>> be
>> re-installed.. doing backups at any point thereafter could well carry
>> hidden
>> problems forward.. that is why I always clean install..
>>
>> I utilise two hard drives, saving all important documents and personal
>> stuff
>> to the slave drive.. of course, a hard drive can fail at any time, but
>> slave
>> drives do not get the daily workout that a primary boot drive gets..
>> archived material, documents or groups of whatever that are not likely to
>> change, for example a once in a lifetime trip to Australia, get saved to
>> CD
>> and left on the drive for easy access..
>>
>> I will readily admit that my way takes longer, but it is amazing how much
>> one installs a second time compared to the flotsam and jetsam picked up
>> initially..
>>
>>
>> --
>> Mike Hall
>> MVP - Windows Shell/User
>>
>>
>> "ponderxpo" <ponderxpo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:892AE233-DD9B-42BD-89C7-5687F6D010C9@microsoft.com...
>> > Peterk ... I concur about aAonis and will consider a hard external hard
>> > drive
>> > that Mike Hall (MS-MVP) mentioned ... WD duel option or Master 1 touch
>> > II
>> >
>> > In between the clutter I listen to you guys.
>> > --
>> > Thanks,
>> > ponderxpo
>> >
>> >
>> > "peterk" wrote:
>> >
>> >> Your welcome
>> >> TrueImage is a good investment to make..............it has saved my
>> >> bacon
>> >> a
>> >> few times.
>> >> With the low price of HD nowadays it is fairly reasonable cost to
>> >> purchase
>> >> one and using TrueImage image your HD to the new one and then remove
>> >> the
>> >> new
>> >> one and keep in a safe place.Every once in awhile reconnect the new
>> >> drive
>> >> and reimage
>> >> When(not IF) something goes wrong and you cant boot,you simply unplug
>> >> the
>> >> HD
>> >> and install the imaged drive and your up and running in minutes.
>> >> peterk
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Never trust a computer you can't throw out the window. - Steve Wozniak
>> >> "ponderxpo" <ponderxpo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:BAF24058-7855-4096-8650-D2C93BD837E4@microsoft.com...
>> >> > Petro ... Yes I have Nero full version but I found out that you cant
>> >> > Backup
>> >> > full Hard drive to DVD according to Nero Support I had to reconfig
>> >> > my
>> >> > system
>> >> > and get a new DVD... The nerve huh?
>> >> > Since Im a novice and gullable.
>> >> > I thought going to different newsgroups might offer greater diverse
>> >> > help.
>> >> > Well I now know so ill try to not to bounce all over.
>> >> > Thanks for your info.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > --
>> >> > Thanks,
>> >> > ponderxpo
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > "peterk" wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> TrueImage will backup or Image your whole HD to another HD and make
>> >> >> that
>> >> >> drive bootable.
>> >> >> It will also allow you to make incremental backups of certain
>> >> >> sections
>> >> >> of
>> >> >> your HD and place that into any directory that you create or it
>> >> >> will
>> >> >> create
>> >> >> a special partition which will not show up in Explorer.These files
>> >> >> will
>> >> >> be
>> >> >> in an image format.
>> >> >> It also lets you activate a Recovery Manager that does not need XP
>> >> >> to
>> >> >> run
>> >> >> from where you can "restore" that image.
>> >> >> Images can be burned to a DVD-R/RW disc
>> >> >> INCD is a program that is usually included in NERO ver
>> >> >> 6...........which
>> >> >> you
>> >> >> say you already have..........check!!
>> >> >> You have posted in every newsgroup here............it is best to
>> >> >> stick
>> >> >> to
>> >> >> one and add to it as people who do help will check back but not
>> >> >> many
>> >> >> will
>> >> >> bother with the same type of questions in 6 diffferent newsgroups.
>> >> >> peterk
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> --
>> >> >> Never trust a computer you can't throw out the window. - Steve
>> >> >> Wozniak
>> >> >> "ponderxpo" <ponderxpo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> >> >> news:E6806D2E-C443-4278-A2E4-37E63E407D53@microsoft.com...
>> >> >> >I think Acronis mentions about backing up in a "INCD" thing ...
>> >> >> > What is INCD? Do I have to reconvifure something to "INCD" mode?
>> >> >> > --
>> >> >> > Thanks,
>> >> >> > ponderxpo
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > "Mike Hall (MS-MVP)" wrote:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> Windows Backup is not suitable for full system backups.. use
>> >> >> >> something
>> >> >> >> like
>> >> >> >> Acronis TrueImage
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> http://www.acronis.com/
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> --
>> >> >> >> Mike Hall
>> >> >> >> MVP - Windows Shell/User
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> "ponderxpo" <ponderxpo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
>> >> >> >> message
>> >> >> >> news:88B5D481-A625-49F3-9135-A4B87E9375BE@microsoft.com...
>> >> >> >> > Because MSFT dose not allow not full hard drive B/u on cd/dvd
>> >> >> >> > Can full hard drive be offloaded to say external USB Hard
>> >> >> >> > drive
>> >> >> >> > or
>> >> >> >> > Tape
>> >> >> >> > device
>> >> >> >> > for reboot disaster revovery?
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > --
>> >> >> >> > Thanks,
>> >> >> >> > ponderxpo
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>>
>>
>>
Anonymous
August 19, 2005 1:38:04 AM

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Peterk ... The clone drive - was that a ' simple removable drive slide-pull
out drive' or you had to open pc unit & disassemble the unit ?

I Only have one Partition (thats enough problems for me).
Would you recomend on the clone for backing up my one & only partition
"C".......to a secure zone that Acronis TrueImage creates?

For normal files I am backing up w/ Nero to DVD-R.

On help support Info I have read a lil on MSFT: system recovery, restores
to same or alt area, dir, vol, agents, passwords, safe zones,advanced,
experience, ... etc . Im not touching that stuff!

Yes I will be thinking about a 2nd (clone) drive.
Do you recomend Both HD drives have same size gig capacity?
By the way do you have to let your system know the clone device is out
resting for two weeks?

Hopefully out of the volcano ........ Thanks and thanks to all especially
the ones who were shaking there heads.

ponderxpo


"peterk" wrote:

> Ponder
> I use 2 hard drives plus one for cloning the boot drive.Once I have cloned
> the boot drive where XP resides using Acronis TrueImage I remove this drive
> and keep it in a safe place.If or when I have a major problem and XP will
> not boot I remove that HD and install the cloned drive in its
> place..........it boots without problems.I update that image about every 2
> weeks.
> I also use trueimage for backing up partitions.......to a secure zone that
> Acronis TrueImage creates.
> For normal work files type backups I just use the XP backup program backing
> up to a formatted DVD-RW....using INCD from Nero to format the disc
> first.....this also works with CD-RW.
> You of course need to find what works for you................
> peterk
>
> --
> Never trust a computer you can't throw out the window. - Steve Wozniak
> "ponderxpo" <ponderxpo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:985149D2-990A-4B54-91E0-BBABAB678CCF@microsoft.com...
> > Thank you all ... I have come to the end of my ummm backup-end of the full
> > trail.
> > Reboot/Recovery/Restore/Reimage/Reclone ..... and Redone!
> > --
> > Thanks,
> > ponderxpo
> >
> >
> > "Mike Hall (MS-MVP)" wrote:
> >
> >> Ponder
> >>
> >> I don't remember suggesting an external hard drive, but I did suggest
> >> Acronis.. reports on it are good, but I never use anything like that
> >> personally, preferring to do a fresh install in the event of serious
> >> problems..
> >>
> >> With Windows Backup, it is possible to do create a backup of important
> >> stuff
> >> to the hard drive and then use Nero or other CD writing software to
> >> transfer
> >> it to CD/DVD.. to be honest, it is quicker just to save stuff to CD using
> >> Nero and forget about Windows Backup.. this program has its uses, but in
> >> times past, backups made by a previous version of Windows have tended not
> >> to
> >> be usable by the next version, that is to say, W95 backups could not be
> >> utilised in W98..
> >>
> >> The one important factor in any backup is that it has to be updated to
> >> reflect current running.. a system backed up just after the initial
> >> install
> >> would still require that all programs installed initially would have to
> >> be
> >> re-installed.. doing backups at any point thereafter could well carry
> >> hidden
> >> problems forward.. that is why I always clean install..
> >>
> >> I utilise two hard drives, saving all important documents and personal
> >> stuff
> >> to the slave drive.. of course, a hard drive can fail at any time, but
> >> slave
> >> drives do not get the daily workout that a primary boot drive gets..
> >> archived material, documents or groups of whatever that are not likely to
> >> change, for example a once in a lifetime trip to Australia, get saved to
> >> CD
> >> and left on the drive for easy access..
> >>
> >> I will readily admit that my way takes longer, but it is amazing how much
> >> one installs a second time compared to the flotsam and jetsam picked up
> >> initially..
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Mike Hall
> >> MVP - Windows Shell/User
> >>
> >>
> >> "ponderxpo" <ponderxpo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:892AE233-DD9B-42BD-89C7-5687F6D010C9@microsoft.com...
> >> > Peterk ... I concur about aAonis and will consider a hard external hard
> >> > drive
> >> > that Mike Hall (MS-MVP) mentioned ... WD duel option or Master 1 touch
> >> > II
> >> >
> >> > In between the clutter I listen to you guys.
> >> > --
> >> > Thanks,
> >> > ponderxpo
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > "peterk" wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Your welcome
> >> >> TrueImage is a good investment to make..............it has saved my
> >> >> bacon
> >> >> a
> >> >> few times.
> >> >> With the low price of HD nowadays it is fairly reasonable cost to
> >> >> purchase
> >> >> one and using TrueImage image your HD to the new one and then remove
> >> >> the
> >> >> new
> >> >> one and keep in a safe place.Every once in awhile reconnect the new
> >> >> drive
> >> >> and reimage
> >> >> When(not IF) something goes wrong and you cant boot,you simply unplug
> >> >> the
> >> >> HD
> >> >> and install the imaged drive and your up and running in minutes.
> >> >> peterk
> >> >>
> >> >> --
> >> >> Never trust a computer you can't throw out the window. - Steve Wozniak
> >> >> "ponderxpo" <ponderxpo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> >> news:BAF24058-7855-4096-8650-D2C93BD837E4@microsoft.com...
> >> >> > Petro ... Yes I have Nero full version but I found out that you cant
> >> >> > Backup
> >> >> > full Hard drive to DVD according to Nero Support I had to reconfig
> >> >> > my
> >> >> > system
> >> >> > and get a new DVD... The nerve huh?
> >> >> > Since Im a novice and gullable.
> >> >> > I thought going to different newsgroups might offer greater diverse
> >> >> > help.
> >> >> > Well I now know so ill try to not to bounce all over.
> >> >> > Thanks for your info.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > --
> >> >> > Thanks,
> >> >> > ponderxpo
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > "peterk" wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> TrueImage will backup or Image your whole HD to another HD and make
> >> >> >> that
> >> >> >> drive bootable.
> >> >> >> It will also allow you to make incremental backups of certain
> >> >> >> sections
> >> >> >> of
> >> >> >> your HD and place that into any directory that you create or it
> >> >> >> will
> >> >> >> create
> >> >> >> a special partition which will not show up in Explorer.These files
> >> >> >> will
> >> >> >> be
> >> >> >> in an image format.
> >> >> >> It also lets you activate a Recovery Manager that does not need XP
> >> >> >> to
> >> >> >> run
> >> >> >> from where you can "restore" that image.
> >> >> >> Images can be burned to a DVD-R/RW disc
> >> >> >> INCD is a program that is usually included in NERO ver
> >> >> >> 6...........which
> >> >> >> you
> >> >> >> say you already have..........check!!
> >> >> >> You have posted in every newsgroup here............it is best to
> >> >> >> stick
> >> >> >> to
> >> >> >> one and add to it as people who do help will check back but not
> >> >> >> many
> >> >> >> will
> >> >> >> bother with the same type of questions in 6 diffferent newsgroups.
> >> >> >> peterk
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> --
> >> >> >> Never trust a computer you can't throw out the window. - Steve
> >> >> >> Wozniak
> >> >> >> "ponderxpo" <ponderxpo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> >> >> news:E6806D2E-C443-4278-A2E4-37E63E407D53@microsoft.com...
> >> >> >> >I think Acronis mentions about backing up in a "INCD" thing ...
> >> >> >> > What is INCD? Do I have to reconvifure something to "INCD" mode?
> >> >> >> > --
> >> >> >> > Thanks,
> >> >> >> > ponderxpo
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > "Mike Hall (MS-MVP)" wrote:
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> Windows Backup is not suitable for full system backups.. use
> >> >> >> >> something
> >> >> >> >> like
> >> >> >> >> Acronis TrueImage
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> http://www.acronis.com/
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> --
> >> >> >> >> Mike Hall
> >> >> >> >> MVP - Windows Shell/User
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> "ponderxpo" <ponderxpo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
> >> >> >> >> message
> >> >> >> >> news:88B5D481-A625-49F3-9135-A4B87E9375BE@microsoft.com...
> >> >> >> >> > Because MSFT dose not allow not full hard drive B/u on cd/dvd
> >> >> >> >> > Can full hard drive be offloaded to say external USB Hard
> >> >> >> >> > drive
> >> >> >> >> > or
> >> >> >> >> > Tape
> >> >> >> >> > device
> >> >> >> >> > for reboot disaster revovery?
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> > --
> >> >> >> >> > Thanks,
> >> >> >> >> > ponderxpo
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>
>
!