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Anonymous
July 13, 2004 5:54:03 AM

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talking to some technicians at vzw and i can not hold a signal in my office
eventhough i am 1 foot to the window tops. He had suggested that i change my
number so it would pull from a different tower. The location of the tower i
think i am getting from is about 10 miles east of here. I had the number
since 1994 and they didnt have local numbers here. it is a toll call to
call my number from a landline. I didnt think it made any sense. as the
phone would get a signal from the closest cell no matter what the number is.

Have had about 4 different people visit, some with same carrier and some
not. they never dropped a call but close to it. I have the vx-4500.. only
phone that worked great in here is the 8900. the 4400 dropped them as well.

any thoughts?

brian
Anonymous
July 13, 2004 3:56:03 PM

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Brian S. <deadhead73@comcast.net> wrote:
> talking to some technicians at vzw and i can not hold a signal in my office
> eventhough i am 1 foot to the window tops. He had suggested that i change my
> number so it would pull from a different tower.

How would changing your number force your phone to acquire a different tower?

> any thoughts?

Whoever suggested this was a flaming idiot and should be fired.

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Anonymous
July 13, 2004 4:52:49 PM

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On Tue, 13 Jul 2004 01:54:03 -0400, "Brian S."
<deadhead73@comcast.net> wrote:

>talking to some technicians at vzw and i can not hold a signal in my office
>eventhough i am 1 foot to the window tops. He had suggested that i change my
>number so it would pull from a different tower. The location of the tower i
>think i am getting from is about 10 miles east of here. I had the number
>since 1994 and they didnt have local numbers here. it is a toll call to
>call my number from a landline. I didnt think it made any sense. as the
>phone would get a signal from the closest cell no matter what the number is.
>
>Have had about 4 different people visit, some with same carrier and some
>not. they never dropped a call but close to it. I have the vx-4500.. only
>phone that worked great in here is the 8900. the 4400 dropped them as well.
>
>any thoughts?
>
>brian
>
The opinion of most posters in this and the Howard Forums news groups
is that the reception on the VX 4500 is not as good as other phones
even within the LG line.

When I upgraded my Motorola V60i to the VX4500 I used it one day and
returned it for an LG VX6000. There was a noticable difference in
reception. The VX 6000 is good but not quite as good as my previous
V60i in reception or voice quality.

My daughter is a college student and uses her Verizon phone in a city
450 miles away. She finds no difference in the phone when home or
away.

We have the AC plan. If you have a local plan it might make a
difference in the way your phone works and which tower it responds to.

Hope this helps
July 13, 2004 4:52:50 PM

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On Tue, 13 Jul 2004 12:52:49 GMT, Teddeli <nospam@nospam.com> wrote:

>We have the AC plan. If you have a local plan it might make a
>difference in the way your phone works and which tower it responds to.

OK, how do you rationalize that? A phone gets the signal from the
closest tower that works with the service. If it's a local, national
or regional plan the difference will be whether it's included in your
regular airtime or whether it's charged as roaming. Other than that
reception is reception. Where you got the idea that the plan
determined what kind of reception you get is in a word amazing!

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July 13, 2004 5:28:01 PM

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"Teddeli" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:D 1m7f0hfshnarp47hf8ea71t890tlmh9mj@4ax.com...
> On Tue, 13 Jul 2004 01:54:03 -0400, "Brian S."
> >
> The opinion of most posters in this and the Howard Forums news groups
> is that the reception on the VX 4500 is not as good as other phones
> even within the LG line.

I haven't read any resounding conclusions that the vx4500 is not a good
phone. The common rant is that it is not trimode. I bought one to try it out
and then upgraded 2 other phones on my plan with the vx4500.

I don't think you can conclude anything in one day about RF performance.
Conditions change. For example there was something going on in my area
yesterday that caused dropped calls and weirdness when making a call (not
just my experience). If you had bought a new phone here yesterday you might
conclude that the phone was bad when the phone had nothing to do with it.


>
> When I upgraded my Motorola V60i to the VX4500 I used it one day and
> returned it for an LG VX6000. There was a noticable difference in
> reception. The VX 6000 is good but not quite as good as my previous
> V60i in reception or voice quality.
>
> My daughter is a college student and uses her Verizon phone in a city
> 450 miles away. She finds no difference in the phone when home or
> away.
>
> We have the AC plan. If you have a local plan it might make a
> difference in the way your phone works and which tower it responds to.
>
> Hope this helps
Anonymous
July 13, 2004 6:01:17 PM

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Unless something stupid is going on, I don't see how the phone number
would affect which tower your phone is using. Not ALL of the verizon
techs are particularly smart, so don't be so quick to give up your
number until you've talked to WAY more than one.

A questions first, and then some suggestions.

Questions :
Are you sure that you're on a verizon tower? (not a roaming partner?)
Do you know whether it's 1900 or 800 CDMA?

Suggestions :
Start by updating your PRL by dialing *228

check the System ID (SID) when you are in your office (it might be
somewhere in your phone/network menu)

Walk around outside, drive around town, see if the SID changes to
anything else (within a reasonable distance)..

If it changes, then something more may be at play.
If it doesn't change, then your phone is locking onto the strongest
tower it has access to in the current PRL (assuming you have an
updated PRL, this is the way it's supposed to work..)


-Tom

Possible solutions : find the SID of any roaming / extended network
partners in your area. Perhaps one of them has a closer tower..
When America's choice first started in NJ, we had overlapping
sprint/verizon coverage for like a year, and I was able to use either
system for free. So at work, I would switch to sprint, because they
had stronger coverage, and I would use verizon everywhere else.
**IF** verizon has a roaming agreement, all you have to do is program
the SID of the other network you want to force the phone to into your
NAM, and set your phone to use "Home Only". This will override the
PRL. (if it is roaming, you may pay roaming fees for doing this...
if it's extended, then you are fine, and may get lucky with a closer
non-verizon tower)




"Brian S." <deadhead73@comcast.net> wrote in message news:<BIudnRi22oCc5G7dRVn-ig@comcast.com>...
> talking to some technicians at vzw and i can not hold a signal in my office
> eventhough i am 1 foot to the window tops. He had suggested that i change my
> number so it would pull from a different tower. The location of the tower i
> think i am getting from is about 10 miles east of here. I had the number
> since 1994 and they didnt have local numbers here. it is a toll call to
> call my number from a landline. I didnt think it made any sense. as the
> phone would get a signal from the closest cell no matter what the number is.
>
> Have had about 4 different people visit, some with same carrier and some
> not. they never dropped a call but close to it. I have the vx-4500.. only
> phone that worked great in here is the 8900. the 4400 dropped them as well.
>
> any thoughts?
>
> brian
Anonymous
July 13, 2004 7:12:37 PM

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On Tue, 13 Jul 2004 06:16:20 -0700, Joseph <JoeOfSeattle@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>On Tue, 13 Jul 2004 12:52:49 GMT, Teddeli <nospam@nospam.com> wrote:
>
>>We have the AC plan. If you have a local plan it might make a
>>difference in the way your phone works and which tower it responds to.
>
>OK, how do you rationalize that? A phone gets the signal from the
>closest tower that works with the service. If it's a local, national
>or regional plan the difference will be whether it's included in your
>regular airtime or whether it's charged as roaming. Other than that
>reception is reception. Where you got the idea that the plan
>determined what kind of reception you get is in a word amazing!
>
>- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
> remove NONO from .NONOcom to reply

Local plans have different PRL's than AC plans You may not be
accessing the same tower because you might be on an extended coverage
carrier.

A poster in NYC complained and was documented by Verizon that because
of the location of her apartment she was accessing a tower miles away
up the Hudson River rather than the towers and repeaters all over her
neighborhood.

I don't see you giving the guy any advice. What's your idea?
Anonymous
July 13, 2004 7:12:38 PM

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Teddeli <nospam@nospam.com> wrote:

> Local plans have different PRL's than AC plans You may not be
> accessing the same tower because you might be on an extended coverage
> carrier.

But changing your PHONE NUMBER will have no effect.

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Anonymous
July 13, 2004 10:17:35 PM

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In article <6fmdnanfZ5u-iWndRVn-sQ@lmi.net>,
Steven J Sobol <sjsobol@JustThe.net> wrote:
>Brian S. <deadhead73@comcast.net> wrote:
>> talking to some technicians at vzw and i can not hold a signal in my office
>> eventhough i am 1 foot to the window tops. He had suggested that i change my
>> number so it would pull from a different tower.
>
>How would changing your number force your phone to acquire a different tower?
>
>> any thoughts?
>
>Whoever suggested this was a flaming idiot and should be fired.

Well, if the the number belonged to another provider, you would go to
another tower.... :-)
Anonymous
July 13, 2004 10:20:36 PM

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i was thinking the same thing that is why my subject line says stupid
question. this was after they opened a trouble ticket and promised to come
out and check the signal. then in store they told me they could do a number
change for 15 bucks. i said screw that, i had the same number since 1994 or
so and then on the phone they said they would do it for free but i really
didn't want to gve my # up sounds stupid.

Just tired of paying the 50 bucks a month and not getting a signal near the
house/office where i use it all the time. my gf's business provides her with
a free verizon line so it is very convenient to use the in network portion
of the service. all though recently she hangs up and dials my landline.

brian

"Steven J Sobol" <sjsobol@JustThe.net> wrote in message
news:6fmdnanfZ5u-iWndRVn-sQ@lmi.net...
> Brian S. <deadhead73@comcast.net> wrote:
> > talking to some technicians at vzw and i can not hold a signal in my
office
> > eventhough i am 1 foot to the window tops. He had suggested that i
change my
> > number so it would pull from a different tower.
>
> How would changing your number force your phone to acquire a different
tower?
>
> > any thoughts?
>
> Whoever suggested this was a flaming idiot and should be fired.
>
> --
> JustThe.net Internet & New Media Services, http://JustThe.net/
> Steven J. Sobol, Geek In Charge / 888.480.4NET (4638) /
sjsobol@JustThe.net
> PGP Key available from your friendly local key server (0xE3AE35ED)
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Anonymous
July 13, 2004 10:26:15 PM

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i am on ch 384 and SID 8. and prl 50175. I am in southern NJ near philly.
the reason i was talking about the stupid phone number is the tech told me
the only way to change the sid would be changing my number to pull from a
different tower. that is why i posted the stupid question. lol

brian s.

"Thomas Zielinski" <junk@oddbite.com> wrote in message
news:4af581c2.0407131301.2f9f052c@posting.google.com...
> Unless something stupid is going on, I don't see how the phone number
> would affect which tower your phone is using. Not ALL of the verizon
> techs are particularly smart, so don't be so quick to give up your
> number until you've talked to WAY more than one.
>
> A questions first, and then some suggestions.
>
> Questions :
> Are you sure that you're on a verizon tower? (not a roaming partner?)
> Do you know whether it's 1900 or 800 CDMA?
>
> Suggestions :
> Start by updating your PRL by dialing *228
>
> check the System ID (SID) when you are in your office (it might be
> somewhere in your phone/network menu)
>
> Walk around outside, drive around town, see if the SID changes to
> anything else (within a reasonable distance)..
>
> If it changes, then something more may be at play.
> If it doesn't change, then your phone is locking onto the strongest
> tower it has access to in the current PRL (assuming you have an
> updated PRL, this is the way it's supposed to work..)
>
>
> -Tom
>
> Possible solutions : find the SID of any roaming / extended network
> partners in your area. Perhaps one of them has a closer tower..
> When America's choice first started in NJ, we had overlapping
> sprint/verizon coverage for like a year, and I was able to use either
> system for free. So at work, I would switch to sprint, because they
> had stronger coverage, and I would use verizon everywhere else.
> **IF** verizon has a roaming agreement, all you have to do is program
> the SID of the other network you want to force the phone to into your
> NAM, and set your phone to use "Home Only". This will override the
> PRL. (if it is roaming, you may pay roaming fees for doing this...
> if it's extended, then you are fine, and may get lucky with a closer
> non-verizon tower)
>
>
>
>
> "Brian S." <deadhead73@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:<BIudnRi22oCc5G7dRVn-ig@comcast.com>...
> > talking to some technicians at vzw and i can not hold a signal in my
office
> > eventhough i am 1 foot to the window tops. He had suggested that i
change my
> > number so it would pull from a different tower. The location of the
tower i
> > think i am getting from is about 10 miles east of here. I had the number
> > since 1994 and they didnt have local numbers here. it is a toll call to
> > call my number from a landline. I didnt think it made any sense. as the
> > phone would get a signal from the closest cell no matter what the number
is.
> >
> > Have had about 4 different people visit, some with same carrier and some
> > not. they never dropped a call but close to it. I have the vx-4500..
only
> > phone that worked great in here is the 8900. the 4400 dropped them as
well.
> >
> > any thoughts?
> >
> > brian
July 14, 2004 1:56:14 AM

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In article <BIudnRi22oCc5G7dRVn-ig@comcast.com>, deadhead73@comcast.net
says...
> talking to some technicians at vzw and i can not hold a signal in my office
> eventhough i am 1 foot to the window tops. He had suggested that i change my
> number so it would pull from a different tower. The location of the tower i
> think i am getting from is about 10 miles east of here. I had the number
> since 1994 and they didnt have local numbers here. it is a toll call to
> call my number from a landline. I didnt think it made any sense. as the
> phone would get a signal from the closest cell no matter what the number is.
>
> Have had about 4 different people visit, some with same carrier and some
> not. they never dropped a call but close to it. I have the vx-4500.. only
> phone that worked great in here is the 8900. the 4400 dropped them as well.
>
> any thoughts?
>
> brian
>
>
>
When I was having enormous trouble, it was explained this way: VZ
cannot control the cell tower I access - that is a location issue and
would be the same with any phone number.

However, a different phone number would send me to a different "switch"
so if the problem is at the switch rather than at the cell tower itself,
it could make a big difference.

One night, when I literally couldn't keep a call, a very nice tech gave
me a new phone number and walked me through re-programming my number to
determine whether it was the cell tower or the switch. I'm in NYC and
he gave me a temporary Connecticut number. So, it can be tested if
someone is willing to take the time.

In my case, it was the cell tower and not the switch because I had the
same problem with the Conn. number.

Since it was the cell and there wasn't much to be done at my particular
location (literally only a part of my apartment), I fixed it a different
way:

I've gotten a small antenna, called a magnamount, which I've attached to
my cell in the very low signal areas of my house. It boots the signal
one to two bars and although it leaves me a little "tethered", it is
only 3" tall and if necessary, I carry it around with me. It has
allowed me to have full usability in an area where I had frequent
breakups and dropped calls.

Louise
July 14, 2004 1:58:04 AM

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In article <45u7f0598u9vi7mj3qn76i4ekpcc2er2pn@4ax.com>,
nospam@nospam.com says...
> On Tue, 13 Jul 2004 06:16:20 -0700, Joseph <JoeOfSeattle@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
> >On Tue, 13 Jul 2004 12:52:49 GMT, Teddeli <nospam@nospam.com> wrote:
> >
> >>We have the AC plan. If you have a local plan it might make a
> >>difference in the way your phone works and which tower it responds to.
> >
> >OK, how do you rationalize that? A phone gets the signal from the
> >closest tower that works with the service. If it's a local, national
> >or regional plan the difference will be whether it's included in your
> >regular airtime or whether it's charged as roaming. Other than that
> >reception is reception. Where you got the idea that the plan
> >determined what kind of reception you get is in a word amazing!
> >
> >- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
> > remove NONO from .NONOcom to reply
>
> Local plans have different PRL's than AC plans You may not be
> accessing the same tower because you might be on an extended coverage
> carrier.
>
> A poster in NYC complained and was documented by Verizon that because
> of the location of her apartment she was accessing a tower miles away
> up the Hudson River rather than the towers and repeaters all over her
> neighborhood.
>
> I don't see you giving the guy any advice. What's your idea?
>
>
That was me! Yes, because I'm in Manhattan, facing the Hudson, I am
accessing a Jersey City cell site from certain parts of my apartment.
See my post above as to my final solution (a small portable antenna for
use in the parts of my house where I have a problem).

Louise
Anonymous
July 14, 2004 5:13:42 AM

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Just get a land line with a 19 dollar cordless phone..presto



"Louise" <none@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.1b5e248d254440b59896d2@news-server.nyc.rr.com...
> In article <BIudnRi22oCc5G7dRVn-ig@comcast.com>, deadhead73@comcast.net
> says...
> > talking to some technicians at vzw and i can not hold a signal in my
office
> > eventhough i am 1 foot to the window tops. He had suggested that i
change my
> > number so it would pull from a different tower. The location of the
tower i
> > think i am getting from is about 10 miles east of here. I had the number
> > since 1994 and they didnt have local numbers here. it is a toll call to
> > call my number from a landline. I didnt think it made any sense. as the
> > phone would get a signal from the closest cell no matter what the number
is.
> >
> > Have had about 4 different people visit, some with same carrier and some
> > not. they never dropped a call but close to it. I have the vx-4500..
only
> > phone that worked great in here is the 8900. the 4400 dropped them as
well.
> >
> > any thoughts?
> >
> > brian
> >
> >
> >
> When I was having enormous trouble, it was explained this way: VZ
> cannot control the cell tower I access - that is a location issue and
> would be the same with any phone number.
>
> However, a different phone number would send me to a different "switch"
> so if the problem is at the switch rather than at the cell tower itself,
> it could make a big difference.
>
> One night, when I literally couldn't keep a call, a very nice tech gave
> me a new phone number and walked me through re-programming my number to
> determine whether it was the cell tower or the switch. I'm in NYC and
> he gave me a temporary Connecticut number. So, it can be tested if
> someone is willing to take the time.
>
> In my case, it was the cell tower and not the switch because I had the
> same problem with the Conn. number.
>
> Since it was the cell and there wasn't much to be done at my particular
> location (literally only a part of my apartment), I fixed it a different
> way:
>
> I've gotten a small antenna, called a magnamount, which I've attached to
> my cell in the very low signal areas of my house. It boots the signal
> one to two bars and although it leaves me a little "tethered", it is
> only 3" tall and if necessary, I carry it around with me. It has
> allowed me to have full usability in an area where I had frequent
> breakups and dropped calls.
>
> Louise
Anonymous
July 15, 2004 3:22:26 AM

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The only possible reason I can come up with that changing your phone number
might help is that you may live right on the boundary between system id's.
If you changed numbers to one that is in the other system and re-programmed
your phone, your home SID would be changed. I am not 100% sure how the
system acquisition works, but I believe it is plausible that your phone
would choose to lock on to the home SID (no matter how weak) if a signal was
available and ignore another SID that may be stronger.

(grasping at straws here, most likely the tech is either full of it or very
mis-guided)

-Eric

"Louise" <none@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.1b5e248d254440b59896d2@news-server.nyc.rr.com...
> In article <BIudnRi22oCc5G7dRVn-ig@comcast.com>, deadhead73@comcast.net
> says...
> > talking to some technicians at vzw and i can not hold a signal in my
office
> > eventhough i am 1 foot to the window tops. He had suggested that i
change my
> > number so it would pull from a different tower. The location of the
tower i
> > think i am getting from is about 10 miles east of here. I had the number
> > since 1994 and they didnt have local numbers here. it is a toll call to
> > call my number from a landline. I didnt think it made any sense. as the
> > phone would get a signal from the closest cell no matter what the number
is.
> >
> > Have had about 4 different people visit, some with same carrier and some
> > not. they never dropped a call but close to it. I have the vx-4500..
only
> > phone that worked great in here is the 8900. the 4400 dropped them as
well.
> >
> > any thoughts?
> >
> > brian
> >
> >
> >
> When I was having enormous trouble, it was explained this way: VZ
> cannot control the cell tower I access - that is a location issue and
> would be the same with any phone number.
>
> However, a different phone number would send me to a different "switch"
> so if the problem is at the switch rather than at the cell tower itself,
> it could make a big difference.
>
> One night, when I literally couldn't keep a call, a very nice tech gave
> me a new phone number and walked me through re-programming my number to
> determine whether it was the cell tower or the switch. I'm in NYC and
> he gave me a temporary Connecticut number. So, it can be tested if
> someone is willing to take the time.
>
> In my case, it was the cell tower and not the switch because I had the
> same problem with the Conn. number.
>
> Since it was the cell and there wasn't much to be done at my particular
> location (literally only a part of my apartment), I fixed it a different
> way:
>
> I've gotten a small antenna, called a magnamount, which I've attached to
> my cell in the very low signal areas of my house. It boots the signal
> one to two bars and although it leaves me a little "tethered", it is
> only 3" tall and if necessary, I carry it around with me. It has
> allowed me to have full usability in an area where I had frequent
> breakups and dropped calls.
>
> Louise
Anonymous
July 15, 2004 5:23:11 AM

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Eric Rosenberry wrote:
> The only possible reason I can come up with that changing your phone number
> might help is that you may live right on the boundary between system id's.
> If you changed numbers to one that is in the other system and re-programmed
> your phone, your home SID would be changed. I am not 100% sure how the
> system acquisition works, but I believe it is plausible that your phone
> would choose to lock on to the home SID (no matter how weak) if a signal was
> available and ignore another SID that may be stronger.
>
> (grasping at straws here, most likely the tech is either full of it or very
> mis-guided)

Possible. You could retain the number but change the Home SID and do
the same thing - but that requires the support personel walking the
customer through manual programming... fun ;) 

JS
Anonymous
July 20, 2004 12:41:46 AM

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The channel you connect to is based on the ESN of the phone and the
phone number. The SID is an area wide system identifier that changes
at system boundaries. The SID in NY is 0022 and this SID is also in
most of North Jersey. So across the Hudson it still will be SID 22.

If there was an overloaded channel.. only an outside chance of that...
a new phone number could possibly help. It is a real stretch however
that this would, in practice, really make a difference.
Tim

On Tue, 13 Jul 2004 18:26:15 -0400, "Brian S."
<deadhead73@comcast.net> wrote:

>i am on ch 384 and SID 8. and prl 50175. I am in southern NJ near philly.
>the reason i was talking about the stupid phone number is the tech told me
>the only way to change the sid would be changing my number to pull from a
>different tower. that is why i posted the stupid question. lol
>
>brian s.
>
>"Thomas Zielinski" <junk@oddbite.com> wrote in message
>news:4af581c2.0407131301.2f9f052c@posting.google.com...
>> Unless something stupid is going on, I don't see how the phone number
>> would affect which tower your phone is using. Not ALL of the verizon
>> techs are particularly smart, so don't be so quick to give up your
>> number until you've talked to WAY more than one.
>>
>> A questions first, and then some suggestions.
>>
>> Questions :
>> Are you sure that you're on a verizon tower? (not a roaming partner?)
>> Do you know whether it's 1900 or 800 CDMA?
>>
>> Suggestions :
>> Start by updating your PRL by dialing *228
>>
>> check the System ID (SID) when you are in your office (it might be
>> somewhere in your phone/network menu)
>>
>> Walk around outside, drive around town, see if the SID changes to
>> anything else (within a reasonable distance)..
>>
>> If it changes, then something more may be at play.
>> If it doesn't change, then your phone is locking onto the strongest
>> tower it has access to in the current PRL (assuming you have an
>> updated PRL, this is the way it's supposed to work..)
>>
>>
>> -Tom
>>
>> Possible solutions : find the SID of any roaming / extended network
>> partners in your area. Perhaps one of them has a closer tower..
>> When America's choice first started in NJ, we had overlapping
>> sprint/verizon coverage for like a year, and I was able to use either
>> system for free. So at work, I would switch to sprint, because they
>> had stronger coverage, and I would use verizon everywhere else.
>> **IF** verizon has a roaming agreement, all you have to do is program
>> the SID of the other network you want to force the phone to into your
>> NAM, and set your phone to use "Home Only". This will override the
>> PRL. (if it is roaming, you may pay roaming fees for doing this...
>> if it's extended, then you are fine, and may get lucky with a closer
>> non-verizon tower)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Brian S." <deadhead73@comcast.net> wrote in message
>news:<BIudnRi22oCc5G7dRVn-ig@comcast.com>...
>> > talking to some technicians at vzw and i can not hold a signal in my
>office
>> > eventhough i am 1 foot to the window tops. He had suggested that i
>change my
>> > number so it would pull from a different tower. The location of the
>tower i
>> > think i am getting from is about 10 miles east of here. I had the number
>> > since 1994 and they didnt have local numbers here. it is a toll call to
>> > call my number from a landline. I didnt think it made any sense. as the
>> > phone would get a signal from the closest cell no matter what the number
>is.
>> >
>> > Have had about 4 different people visit, some with same carrier and some
>> > not. they never dropped a call but close to it. I have the vx-4500..
>only
>> > phone that worked great in here is the 8900. the 4400 dropped them as
>well.
>> >
>> > any thoughts?
>> >
>> > brian
>
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