never rely on a rebate to "lower" your purchase price. i usually use it as a bonus. outta 30-40 rebates mailed, i think i got low 20's back. what ive found is that the timing of when they hit, get used, and finally applied for usually eats up all the time for the rebate. hell i still get debit cards and chacks from 8-10months from purchase. heck, some of the stuff i dont even have any more and i got a check!