Mobo & sATA

[schmuckpussy]

I have the money, so i want to build my first computer from less than scratch. A good friend said that it mostly depends on de CPU and the Mobo. So that is my first problem. I looked in a couple of magazines and pricelists and i found out that integrated [-peep-] on the Mobo is a bad thing, but i came across something like sATA-RAID! What the f*ck is that!

I'm also planning to build the PC with a waterkooling in it, is this a smart thing to do. I heard some pretty good [-peep-] about it.

Of course any Mobo-suggestions are welcome (al others to)

You'll have to excuse my language, i'm not from the US or UK. I try to do the english good, but ofcourse no one is perfect

(_8^)

 

[schmuckpussy]

About the Sata again, is it the new IDE-cable, or something like that

If so, what are the pro & cons of Sate compared to IDE

 

[Crashman]

Integrated stuff on the motherboard is GREAT! Here are a list of things that are integrated into most motherboards:
1. Keyboard and Mouse ports, GREAT!
2. Serial ports, if you need them, this is GREAT
3. Parallel port, see #2
4. USB ports, why would you want them on a PCI card?
5. IDE controller, integrated into the chipset for over 10 years now! Any complaints? I though not!
6. Floppy controller, see #2


So you see, everything is fine and dandy with integrated stuff for the most part. Integrated video is normally pretty bad, and integrated sound is usually ho-hum, but that's about it.

In the late 90's companies started integrating additional IDE controllers into motherboards. These are PCI devices, but are attached directly to the bus instead of requireing a slot. Since that saves you a slot, it's GREAT!

Later these added IDE controllers were replaced with RAID controllers, same situation, same hardware you'd get on a PCI card, but without the need to use up a slot. Great!

Now we have SATA RAID. Intel incorporates it into their latest chipset southbridge. It gets it's own bus internally, which is FASTER than the PCI bus, so it's BETTER than PCI! Great!

Also, Intel added the CSA bus, another faster-than-PCI bus, this one is for their Gigabit ethernet connector. It offers TWICE the bandwidth of PCI devices, GREAT!

Now, SATA is a new interface to replace IDE. It offers better performance, but there are no drives fast enough to use that better performance yet. SATA drives will likely be no faster than IDE drives for the next 3 to 5 years!

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[HardWareBoss]

Now that you broke it down for him. Do you think he'll understand?

 

[Crashman]

dunno, english is his second language I think.

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[schmuckpussy]

Of course i understand it. English is one of the languages I master.

First of all thanks for the clear explanation

Is it smart to build a watercooling system into the comp, or doesn't that add any value to its performance

What do you think of P4P800 and A7N8X

 

[WingDing]

Where's Grub when you need him?

Barton 2500+, 512MB Corsair Platinum XMS 3200 CL2, Radeon 9700, WD Raptor 10,000 rpm S-ATA HDD, Asus A7V600, Enermax 460W SilentPlus PSU.

 

[HardWareBoss]

How much do you want to spend. What do you need? Besides Mobo.

 

[Crashman]

Water cooling simply moves the heatsink away from the processor. The radiator is just a giant heatsink, with all the advantages of increased size. Unless you really need a lot of cooling capacity, you won't need water cooling. Situations that call for added cooling include overclocking by a large amount.

I like those motherboards.

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