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September 17, 2005 9:46:02 AM

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Hi i have a question when i Defagmenter my computer it say that some files
can't be Defragmenter way is it say that. I have a dell computer and windows
xp
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Bill

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September 17, 2005 2:26:50 PM

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That's probably normal operation. Things like your pagefile and
certain boot time files cannot be defragmented or moved around.
If you were a super tech it might be meaningful but if that's the
only error message and if Analyze shows that you don't have to
defragment, then all is fine.

HTH,

PopS

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: Hi i have a question when i Defagmenter my computer it say that
some files
: can't be Defragmenter way is it say that. I have a dell
computer and windows
: xp
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: Bill
Anonymous
September 17, 2005 3:35:47 PM

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Hi,

The included defrag tool cannot defrag the MFT among other things. There
will always be some small percentage of defragmentation unless you use a
third party product, in which case the 100% defrag is only likely to last
until you next use the machine (unless you like totally defragmented
doorstops?). Anyhow, this is normal and should not be of concern.

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Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
Associate Expert - WindowsXP Expert Zone
www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
Windows help - www.rickrogers.org

"Bill" <Bill@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> Hi i have a question when i Defagmenter my computer it say that some files
> can't be Defragmenter way is it say that. I have a dell computer and
> windows
> xp
> --
> Bill
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Anonymous
September 17, 2005 6:48:38 PM

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The amount of free space is very important when running Disk
Defragmenter. A
minimum of 15% is required but sometimes 20% is desirable if the drive /
partition
contains one or more large files. You can run Disk Defragmenter a second
and third
time if files are still fragmented after the first run. You can put
files more prone to
fragment in their own partitions.

If you use Outlook Express regularly compacting Outlook Express before
running
Disk Defragmenter is helpful.

Disk Defragmenter provides a "Most fragmented files" list. When a
fragmented file is
larger than the largest pocket of free space available then the files is
not fragmented.
Running Disk Defragmenter a second or third time does move files around
and can
reduce / eliminate the contents of the "Most fragmented files" list. The
more free
space on the drive / partition, the more likely it is that all fragments
will be
eliminated.

Free space cannot be defragmented with the Windows XP Disk Defragmenter.
Neither can your pagefile cannot be defragmented because the file is in
use whilst
Disk Defragmenter is running. You can purchase other Defragmenting
Utilities e.g.
Perfect Disk, which will defragment your pagefile and free space.
Another option is to
place your pagefile in it's own partition. A pagefile partition is best
located as the first
partition on a second hard drive. You should leave a small page file at
the original
location.
http://www.raxco.com/

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Hope this helps.

Gerry
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"Bill" <Bill@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:76596F2F-DE16-4342-A723-30B63686ADBB@microsoft.com...
> Hi i have a question when i Defagmenter my computer it say that some
> files
> can't be Defragmenter way is it say that. I have a dell computer and
> windows
> xp
> --
> Bill
Anonymous
September 18, 2005 1:52:14 PM

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Rick

Is the position still the same for Home Edition and Professional Edition? References in the Resource Kit suggest they may now be different. What you say is certainly true for Home Edition.

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Regards.

Gerry

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"Rick "Nutcase" Rogers" <rick@mvps.org> wrote in message news:uPAKz05uFHA.596@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> Hi,
>
> The included defrag tool cannot defrag the MFT among other things. There
> will always be some small percentage of defragmentation unless you use a
> third party product, in which case the 100% defrag is only likely to last
> until you next use the machine (unless you like totally defragmented
> doorstops?). Anyhow, this is normal and should not be of concern.
>
> --
> Best of Luck,
>
> Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
> Associate Expert - WindowsXP Expert Zone
> www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
> Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
>
> "Bill" <Bill@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:76596F2F-DE16-4342-A723-30B63686ADBB@microsoft.com...
>> Hi i have a question when i Defagmenter my computer it say that some files
>> can't be Defragmenter way is it say that. I have a dell computer and
>> windows
>> xp
>> --
>> Bill
>
>
Anonymous
September 18, 2005 2:46:12 PM

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Hi Gerry,

It's the same tool, and the results should be similar. I've found nothing to
suggest otherwise.

--
Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
Associate Expert - WindowsXP Expert Zone
www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
Windows help - www.rickrogers.org

"Gerry Cornell" <gcjc@tenretnitb.com> wrote in message
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Rick

Is the position still the same for Home Edition and Professional Edition?
References in the Resource Kit suggest they may now be different. What you
say is certainly true for Home Edition.

--


Regards.

Gerry

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
FCA

Stourport, Worcs, England
Enquire, plan and execute.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~



"Rick "Nutcase" Rogers" <rick@mvps.org> wrote in message
news:uPAKz05uFHA.596@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> Hi,
>
> The included defrag tool cannot defrag the MFT among other things. There
> will always be some small percentage of defragmentation unless you use a
> third party product, in which case the 100% defrag is only likely to last
> until you next use the machine (unless you like totally defragmented
> doorstops?). Anyhow, this is normal and should not be of concern.
>
> --
> Best of Luck,
>
> Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
> Associate Expert - WindowsXP Expert Zone
> www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
> Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
>
> "Bill" <Bill@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:76596F2F-DE16-4342-A723-30B63686ADBB@microsoft.com...
>> Hi i have a question when i Defagmenter my computer it say that some
>> files
>> can't be Defragmenter way is it say that. I have a dell computer and
>> windows
>> xp
>> --
>> Bill
>
>
Anonymous
September 18, 2005 9:05:47 PM

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Rick

Am I misinterpreting this link?
http://www.microsoft.com/resources/documentation/Window...

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Regards.

Gerry

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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Stourport, Worcs, England
Enquire, plan and execute.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


"Rick "Nutcase" Rogers" <rick@mvps.org> wrote in message news:%23QAow9FvFHA.2064@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> Hi Gerry,
>
> It's the same tool, and the results should be similar. I've found nothing to
> suggest otherwise.
>
> --
> Best of Luck,
>
> Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
> Associate Expert - WindowsXP Expert Zone
> www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
> Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
>
> "Gerry Cornell" <gcjc@tenretnitb.com> wrote in message
> news:uqGiH5CvFHA.3452@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
> Rick
>
> Is the position still the same for Home Edition and Professional Edition?
> References in the Resource Kit suggest they may now be different. What you
> say is certainly true for Home Edition.
>
> --
>
>
> Regards.
>
> Gerry
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> FCA
>
> Stourport, Worcs, England
> Enquire, plan and execute.
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
>
>
> "Rick "Nutcase" Rogers" <rick@mvps.org> wrote in message
> news:uPAKz05uFHA.596@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
>> Hi,
>>
>> The included defrag tool cannot defrag the MFT among other things. There
>> will always be some small percentage of defragmentation unless you use a
>> third party product, in which case the 100% defrag is only likely to last
>> until you next use the machine (unless you like totally defragmented
>> doorstops?). Anyhow, this is normal and should not be of concern.
>>
>> --
>> Best of Luck,
>>
>> Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
>> Associate Expert - WindowsXP Expert Zone
>> www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
>> Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
>>
>> "Bill" <Bill@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:76596F2F-DE16-4342-A723-30B63686ADBB@microsoft.com...
>>> Hi i have a question when i Defagmenter my computer it say that some
>>> files
>>> can't be Defragmenter way is it say that. I have a dell computer and
>>> windows
>>> xp
>>> --
>>> Bill
>>
>>
>
>
Anonymous
September 18, 2005 9:05:48 PM

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Hi Gerry,

Apparently some changes have been made to defrag support, and though I can
find numerous references to it, nothing indicates that it is limited to just
the Pro version. Other than the link you provided, all other articles seem
to indicate both Home and Pro are being treated the same.

--
Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
Associate Expert - WindowsXP Expert Zone
www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
Windows help - www.rickrogers.org

"Gerry Cornell" <gcjc@tenretnitb.com> wrote in message
news:o HAUXrGvFHA.2076@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
Rick

Am I misinterpreting this link?
http://www.microsoft.com/resources/documentation/Window...

--


Regards.

Gerry

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
FCA

Stourport, Worcs, England
Enquire, plan and execute.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


"Rick "Nutcase" Rogers" <rick@mvps.org> wrote in message
news:%23QAow9FvFHA.2064@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> Hi Gerry,
>
> It's the same tool, and the results should be similar. I've found nothing
> to
> suggest otherwise.
>
> --
> Best of Luck,
>
> Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
> Associate Expert - WindowsXP Expert Zone
> www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
> Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
>
> "Gerry Cornell" <gcjc@tenretnitb.com> wrote in message
> news:uqGiH5CvFHA.3452@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
> Rick
>
> Is the position still the same for Home Edition and Professional Edition?
> References in the Resource Kit suggest they may now be different. What you
> say is certainly true for Home Edition.
>
> --
>
>
> Regards.
>
> Gerry
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> FCA
>
> Stourport, Worcs, England
> Enquire, plan and execute.
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
>
>
> "Rick "Nutcase" Rogers" <rick@mvps.org> wrote in message
> news:uPAKz05uFHA.596@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
>> Hi,
>>
>> The included defrag tool cannot defrag the MFT among other things. There
>> will always be some small percentage of defragmentation unless you use a
>> third party product, in which case the 100% defrag is only likely to last
>> until you next use the machine (unless you like totally defragmented
>> doorstops?). Anyhow, this is normal and should not be of concern.
>>
>> --
>> Best of Luck,
>>
>> Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
>> Associate Expert - WindowsXP Expert Zone
>> www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
>> Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
>>
>> "Bill" <Bill@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:76596F2F-DE16-4342-A723-30B63686ADBB@microsoft.com...
>>> Hi i have a question when i Defagmenter my computer it say that some
>>> files
>>> can't be Defragmenter way is it say that. I have a dell computer and
>>> windows
>>> xp
>>> --
>>> Bill
>>
>>
>
>
!