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Hi All,

I have read the new <A HREF="http://www17.tomshardware.com/howto/02q3/020701/index.html" target="_new">Silent and Ice Cold</A> article.
(BTW the multi languages water cooling mounting video was fine. :smile: )

I am interesting to switch my HSF to a water cooling kit though it costs round double the price of an HSF with almost the same performances. The cpu cooler, the pump as the heat exchanger are very imposing & impressive.

#flat1: I think that the Innovatek Hard Disk Water Cooler is not very efficient because it cools only both sides but not the upper & the lower parts of the disk.
#flat2: You need a huge size case to succeed placing both the large heat exchanger as well as the PSU. How could we do otherwise?

It's a good silent cooling method & efficient as such noisy high cooling HSFs (& even more) but there are three annoying things.

The first one is that a leak of water is always possible to occur & then a great part of the electronics components could be irremediably destroyed. In that case you can have 2000 dollars of equipment fried in one instant.
Moreover how much time the plastic tubes remain secure? (physically the plastic becomes crackly after a certain period, it can split itself & creates leaks) What is the secure MTBF for a water cooling system?

The second point is the water tube assembly obstructs the case & hinders manipulations under it. This could be disturbing for an overclocker's computer. Is there a remedy to improve that?

The third point is you can buy only a simpler water cooling kit which cools uniquely the cpu then a complet HSFs & fans equipment which cools cpu, gpu, chipset, memory & hard disk likewise at the same cost around $200.

Then i am wondering which cooling equipment should i buy?

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One addvice before I say anything else: Don't put all your waterbloc in serie like THG did in the video... that will decrese performance dramatically. It is much better to put them parallel.

1. The chance for a leak in a good built and checked (always run the watercooler outside you case before using it with your components) watercooler is very small.
Also tubes only start to get crackly when sun shines on it... so if you don't expose them to to much sunlight they will last for years.
2. Thats why I have all my other watercooler components then my waterblocks outside the case, with only a small tube running inside the case.
3. That is why I don't like kits... is much more fun to select the components by yourself and then built it. But Innovatek also sells everything in loose parts so you can assemble your own 'kit'.

And for the cooling equipment you want to buy: check if there are shops in your own country that sell watercooling stuff and then compare the prices and quality of the different parts.
Innovatek, swifteck and Dangerden are famous waterblock makers.
HWLabs make good radiators.
You can use aquarium pumps for your system like the onces of Eheim.
You can buy tubes in your local DIY-shop or aquarium-shops.

If you have more questions I will be happy to help.

<b>P75 @ 90 Mhz</b>... because I need the speed.

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how does the cooling of a water cooler compare to heatsink+fan?, also -more importantly to me- how much noise does a water cooler make?

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Reply to M_C_Hammer
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Well a good build watercooler will with a high OC and at full load keep the temps below 40C. If you watch your temps when you OC you will see that with a watercooling the temps hardly rise.
Well the noice can be very little... it all depends on which 120mm fan you use to cool the radiator... a slow moving will do fine. Oh and the pump noise is very little... I can't hear my pump if I would turn off al my fans.

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round 20-25dBA.


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One addvice before I say anything else: Don't put all your waterbloc in serie like THG did in the video... that will decrese performance dramatically. It is much better to put them parallel.


what did you talk about ecactly? i didn't well understand it.
can you precise how you have realized your water cooling parallel combo assembly?


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Well if you look to this pic: <A HREF="http://www6.tomshardware.com/howto/02q3/020701/images/system.jpg" target="_new">http://www6.tomshardware.com/howto/02q3/020701/images/system.jpg</A>, you will see that the tube from the OUT of the HD cooler goes to the IN of the NB cooler, the OUT of the NB cooler goes to the IN of the CPU cooler and so on... this means all waterblocks are connected in serie.
My setup will be as following: <A HREF="http://home.kabelfoon.nl/~svo/wcooler.jpg" target="_new">Watercooler setup</A>. As you can see my waterblocks are parallel connect with eachother.

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Reply to svol

i understood. but this implementation is a bit more expensive (needs more adaptors stuff) & it involves more piping. i don't know if you can easily evolve under your case for some manipulation & modification stuff. (eg changing your sound card or adding a hard disk or repairing an hardware issue, etc...). besides a longer tube assembly could imply a better cooling though (increasing the water/air contacted surface) creating a kind of second heat exchanger.

but the real con for me is a lack of water. there are so many adaptors, junctions, piping, cooling devices all over the comp i am wondering if this stuff is secure?


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It is more expensive yes, but far more effective.
Because my case is already very filled, I only put the waterblocks with the tubing that leads outside the case inside my case. At the outside I adapt the tubes to one head-tune which leads to my pump or radaiator. So there aren't much pipes in my case.

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