GTA IV lagging on 9600 GSO

I just bought a new graphics card from 8500GT to 9600GSO 512MB to play GTA IV but it lags so much and i've set it to optimize but it still lags(pretty much the lowest quality). I have a Core 2 Quad Q6600 @ 2.40GHz and 8GB RAM running Windows 7 32bit OS.
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  1. get a new graphics card, and 8 gb ram on a 32 bit system??!! only recognizes 3 gb of it, can I have the other 5 gigabytes? but really upgrade windows 7 and get at least a 9800GT, or if you can afford it, a 5770, no a dual core graphics card because apparently GTAIV can't use more than one core

    EDIT| upgrade to windows 7 64 bit
  2. If upgrade to windows 7 64 bit GTA IV lags even more...
  3. I find that extrmly hard to believe because according to this article 6 gb 64 bit performs better than a 32 bit 3 gb, and seeing as you have 8 gb the effect should deffidentially be more pronounced, but really it is not about the RAM or even the CPU but more about the graphics card

    http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/64-bit-vista-gaming,2250-10.html
  4. Do you think I need to upgrade my CPU cause its running @ 2.4 GHz in a 4 core processor or I should upgrade my graphics card
  5. any more than 4 gigs under 32-bit Windows is useless because Windows 32-bit cannot address the memory above 4 gigs. In fact, you won't even have full access to the 4 gigs as some of it is reserved.

    Therefore, to have 8 gigs of RAM be fully accessible, you need to upgrade a 64-bit Windows.
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    GTA IV lagging on 9600 GSO


    ^ this is your problem.

    First, you need a better graphics card. Once you get that, overclock that q6600, if possible. Then, upgrade to a 64-bit OS.
  7. I need to overclock my processor and by how much?
    EDIT: I mean if i can overclock my processor, two which GHz?
  8. You NEED a new graphics card. you will not get off easy by overclocking your cpu.
  9. Overclock your CPU to 3GHz, this shouldn't require any more voltage than default and should be within the realms of any half decent motherboard and cooler.

    If this improves your GTA experience enough for you, well done - fixed with no money spent and you've got time to save for a new graphics card. If this doesn't improve your graphics/FPS at all, then you know the GPU is your weak link and then you have proved to yourself you'll need to spend some money to run it any higher.

    I'd definitely keep your CPU at 3GHz (or higher) if you can. I was running a Q6600 at 3.4 until recently and the difference between 2.4 and 3 is generally pretty noticable in my opinion.

    Good luck.
  10. an overclock to 3.0 GHZ, an upgrade of the graphics card and an upgrade to windows 7 64 bit addition would make your computer a lot better, as well as being able to play GTA IV better. If you do plan to upgrade your computer, please give us a budget as well as other specs if you want our help. otherwise there is no easy was to play GTA IV on high setting. Only a hardware upgrade will help.
  11. ^ +1 exactly. hardware upgraded is needed. Also listen to Confused Stu though, an overclock will help substantially. but not without a new gpu.
  12. But when I talk to the HP technician they said that my motherboard's component does not support 64 bit edition of Windows 7
    EDIT: Here is my computer specs http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?docname=c01301711&tmp_task=prodinfoCategory&lc=en&dlc=en&cc=ca&product=3644726&lang=en#
    NOTE: I do not have GeForce 8500GT, i changed to GeForce 9600 GSO and 600W PSU. Also I will not be upgrading my computer and can someone give me a good overclocking software?
  13. This great program called the BIOS. Use the BIOS not an program.
  14. I don't think my BIOS can change it but I'll look at it. Is it OK if my computer is around 50 - 60 oC and I overclock it?
  15. your cpu is at 50-60 C idle!?
  16. Well I just turned on a game and alt-tab. But its usually 40-50 C
  17. If it is idling at 4-50 you NEED a new cpu cooler. that isnt normal. its not dangerously high but it is shortening the life of your cpu. I have a quad core that is over clocked .6ghz and it idles at 24C
  18. I've did noticed that my CPU became A LOT hotter when I added a new PSU. But is it because it is very stuffed or is it just the PSU? the tower looks like a Micro-ATX tower. The PSU is by Cooler Master too, eXtreme Power Plus 600W. Could it be my PSU fan? It blows air in and I think hot air in.
  19. Theres no way it would blow hot air in, that would be horrible design and i dont think they are that dumb. And how much is "alot?"
  20. Well I think it went from maybe 10-20 C or 10- 30 C to 40 - 50 C and btw my BIOs is locked by HP and I want to unlock it. Can anyone help me? I mean it blows warm air
  21. It is usually very difficult to overclock a processor on a motherboard used by a major computer maker (like HP or Dell), because the usually use cheap motherboards (unless it is said to be overclocking friendly), and they usually put some sort of lock on the BIOS, just like you said. just do a google search on how to unlock a motherboard. Just make sure the processor doesn't overheat. and out of curiosity how are you measuring the heat on the components?
  22. I was thinking about it and it seems that your numbers for temperature are near impossible. 10-20 degrees C on a stock cooler? not even a very nice cooler like the Cooler Master Hyper 212+ can do that. look

    http://www.maximumpc.com/article/reviews/cooler_master_hyper_212_plus

    cooled the cpu to 43.5 degrees C at 100% CPU load. you would need some serious cooling to achieve those numbers. and it is extremly unlikely that even if the 10-20 degrees celcius were real numbers the new PSU would rasie the CPU temperature 30-40 degrees celcius. in degrees F thats 86-104 degrees hotter! that would be a HOT PSU
  23. Anonymous486 said:
    I was thinking about it and it seems that your numbers for temperature are near impossible. 10-20 degrees C on a stock cooler? not even a very nice cooler like the Cooler Master Hyper 212+ can do that. look

    http://www.maximumpc.com/article/reviews/cooler_master_hyper_212_plus

    cooled the cpu to 43.5 degrees C at 100% CPU load. you would need some serious cooling to achieve those numbers. and it is extremly unlikely that even if the 10-20 degrees celcius were real numbers the new PSU would rasie the CPU temperature 30-40 degrees celcius. in degrees F thats 86-104 degrees hotter! that would be a HOT PSU


    Who said stock cooler? what person in their right mind would put a stock cooler in their homebuilt? I spent 20 bux on some cheap OCZ and it does everything an $80 one does. keep my OC'ed quad core idling at 24, under MAJOR LOAD like prime95 load, maxxes out at 44.
  24. its not a homebuilt its an HP, (see computer specs) and of course HP is gonna use a stock cooler
  25. ok maybe my comment on 10-20 degrees celcius was wrong (Maybe) but would a PSu add 30-40 degrees c
  26. why would a psu add 30-40 degrees? and i was referring to MY homebuilt. a PSU may warm things up, but not an extra 30-40. Something else is wrong.
  27. agreed
  28. if you need cooling get a Cooler Master Hyper 212+ for cheep on newegg
  29. I changed my motherboard to a P5KPL-CM. I kept the HP stock tower. Now I am having problems with the USB. Also is it OK if the CPU fan is @ 4272 RPM?
  30. I realized that my cpu actually ISNT as cool as i stated above. it idles at around 30, and max load it gets to 49 and sometimes 50 after about an hour of major torture testing, what is a good and cheap cpu cooler?
    @jason, yea that rpm is quite good, it should adjust accordingly though, and what problems are you having? make sure your drivers are updated.
  31. thought everyone was saying the 9600 gso (some models) are great cards? In terms of bung for the buck and budget gaming meaning.
  32. Does he have one of those crippled gso's?
  33. no, acctually the whole 9600GSO card is pretty bad for gaming, its worse than a 8800 GTX, which was 3 generations of graphics cards ago. In short they are not good for gaming.
  34. JDV28 said:
    I realized that my cpu actually ISNT as cool as i stated above. it idles at around 30, and max load it gets to 49 and sometimes 50 after about an hour of major torture testing, what is a good and cheap cpu cooler?
    @jason, yea that rpm is quite good, it should adjust accordingly though, and what problems are you having? make sure your drivers are updated.

    When I push or move my computer it sometimes disconnect all or some of the USB ports.
  35. Dony say "problems" when its just wires becoming unplugged.
    edit, unless the ports are actually faulty
  36. 486, they are good for budget gaming and your analysis comparing it to a top of the line card 3 gens ago doesnt work because nvidia simply repackages generations ago cards into same cards calling them "modern".
  37. ^ *cough* ATI fanboy
  38. JDV28 said:
    Dony say "problems" when its just wires becoming unplugged.
    edit, unless the ports are actually faulty

    I did not plug it off. It just automatically plugs off random plugs.
  39. Jason761 said:
    I did not plug it off. It just automatically plugs off random plugs.

    Yea, if you have the newest drivers and bios installed, then the actual ports must be faulty... im sure that gets annoying REAL fast.
  40. How do i fix that?
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