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February 14, 2010 10:27:00 PM

Ok, here are some thoughts about my experience and curious what others think.

#1 Weapons are way to weak and hopefully since there is half dedicated support (meaning that you have to get your server from those who have been Knighted worthy by EA) and admins are going to be able control most features hopefully they can turn up the lethality.

2# They need to add the ability to side step while running. That is so bothersome the fact that you cant look a little to the side while running with out changing your entire direction you are running.

3# I love realism....but does sniping really need to be that hard? I mean come on. It almost seams as though they add fog and crap to your field of view while looking through the scope even if it is there or not when not looking through the scope.

Any one else have any thoughts on this?

February 14, 2010 10:31:34 PM

Ok i assume you are talking about bad company 2? and
1) they are not weak, unless you are still using the original guns and have not unlocked any new ones
2) it would be a nice addition but using the mouse to change direction while sprinting is just fine assuming you have your sensitivity right. PLUS, sprinting is to get from A to B quickly. Your accuracy would be harmed so badly that it would even be worth being able to shoot or look to the side while doing it.
3) sniping is not hard. i have unlocked 2 new sniper rifle and 2 new scopes in the last 2 weeks. if you understand the physics of the game, you would realize that its just fine. But at long distances, you must aim slightly above because of gravity.
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February 15, 2010 12:07:26 AM

1. From what I hear in the BF forum, weapons won't be changed in the beta but it sounds like they are looking at the damage for the final version. I hate to jump on this damage train but the other night I unloaded a full F2000 clip into a guys chest and he was still at 50% health. We were both stationary and very close to one another so I know every bullet hit. I like the idea to force people to go for head shots but 50% damage from one clip is pretty week I think. In comparison, I can kill someone with one clip of the 1911 pistol. To me, that doesn't seem like a good balance.

2. Strafing while sprinting will not be added and I am fine with that as well. The reason that I read was that it was not in any previous battlefields so it sounds like they are solid on that one. P.S. prone will also not making it in and they are very solid about that one.

3. The bloom effect on the sniper scope was brought up as a complaint in the feedback threads and I agree too. The scope FOV is small enough so I don't like the visual blur/bloom effect around the edges taking up any more area.
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February 15, 2010 12:10:42 AM

Well JDV i would have to disagree, last time i checked it still hurts to be get with a bullet and the weapons need not have that much variation in damage values with in reason. I know a 45 will take you down faster than a 9mm so maybe one bullet in the chest with a 45 equals a kill where it might take two 9mm bullets but in the game i can see i hit them 5 or 6 times and they dont go down. That needs changing.

You are correct I have not yet unlocked more weapons but the fact remains it take way to many bullets.
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February 15, 2010 12:17:39 AM

I was under the under standing prone was added only to PC version and not PS3 or 360. Is this no longer true? That is why I did not bring that defect up.
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February 15, 2010 12:22:41 AM

No prone. mostly because that would make sniping so much more lethal than it already is. listen, one game with me ONLY sniping, i can guarantee i will be in the top 3 players on a 10 persons team. @spinach, i like the f200 but it is more of an oversized uzi than anything. accuracy bad, damage bad, rate of fire very high, sounds like an uzi. @gladiator again, do you expect this game to be a real life simulator? its fun because they ARENT one hit kills, it gives everyone a chance.
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February 15, 2010 12:36:42 AM

@ JDV I just want more bullet damage. It should not be arcade game realism. So yes I love realism with in reason. If I hit someone 5 or 6 times regardless of the gun you ain't fighting anymore. Makes people play better. Make you think more. Makes everyone better. Makes the game more fun. I expect arcade realism from something like Team Fortress 2, not a game that looks as cool as Bad Company 2.
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February 15, 2010 12:40:49 AM

personally, with a 30 round clip in most weapons, you shouldnt be able to kill 5 or 6 people. that is stupid. Personally, i think people say that there isnt enough damage because the just spray and assume all the bullets hit but the damage isnt high enough. Not insulting anybody. but killing 2 or MAYBE 3 people with one clip is good.
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February 15, 2010 12:56:09 AM

I was saying if you hit someone 5 or 6 times they don't die. That is very arcade. That is not the same as saying every clip should be worth 5 or 6 kills, lol.
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February 15, 2010 1:20:07 AM

yes it is. with a 30 round clip, 30/5 = 6 *stop* you shouldnt need a math less on this dude.
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February 15, 2010 1:39:30 AM

Ok, let me be more clear. I understand that while in combat not every bullet will hit. So with that said , lets say we fire 20 bullets and 5 or 6 of those hit the target (the enemy) that guy needs to hit the ground. Come on man, who assumes every bullets hits. That should not need to be explained.
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February 15, 2010 1:48:14 AM

no he should not die with 5 or 6 shots. i think thats unfair. thats giving him no chance. so it comes down to who ever sees the other first gets the kill FOR SURE which is stupid imo. you should have a chance to fire your weapon. also, check your Private messages at bottom of main forum page.
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February 15, 2010 10:42:33 AM

I think there is some work to be done in the pistol vs rifle balance. In 2142 it felt about right, if you caught someone unawares with a pistol you could beat their assault rifle but in a 50/50 the assault rifle usually won out.. but in BC2 the number of 50/50s I've lost with an assault rifle against a sniper and his pistol at short-med range just doesn't quite add up at the mo. On the other hand at med range the assault rifles seem to drop people quite well. Sometimes it just doesn't quite feel right at the mo.

But on the whole looks very promising, looking forward to some of the more traditional BF conquest style matches and see how the squadplay goes..
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February 15, 2010 11:07:22 AM

Shoot in the head; half the classes have heavy armor, and shooting them in the chest (especially with 5.56 rounds) does little damage.

Damage is about the same as it was in BF2; I've gone on killstreaks with the default engineer gun on a regular basis...(20 round clip, so its a cripple...). Single, precise shots to the upper body is the way to go, just like in BF2 for mid-range combat.
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February 15, 2010 4:06:23 PM

OllieUK said:
I think there is some work to be done in the pistol vs rifle balance. In 2142 it felt about right, if you caught someone unawares with a pistol you could beat their assault rifle but in a 50/50 the assault rifle usually won out.. but in BC2 the number of 50/50s I've lost with an assault rifle against a sniper and his pistol at short-med range just doesn't quite add up at the mo. On the other hand at med range the assault rifles seem to drop people quite well. Sometimes it just doesn't quite feel right at the mo.

But on the whole looks very promising, looking forward to some of the more traditional BF conquest style matches and see how the squadplay goes..


Yea, but look at the rate of fire, of they have a nice mouse that has almost zero click resistance, they can get out almost as many shots as you, BUT with better accuracy because pistols dont spray, and with something like an SMG, those are tiny rounds, exactly why it takes so many to kill someone. I actually stopped using them, the only guns i use now are sniper, shotgun, and huge medic guns. (plus pistols of course)
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February 15, 2010 4:20:22 PM

SMG's are really useless except as spray and prey and short range, and single shots at mid-long range. Just like BF2, very, very few guns are good at full auto at any range whatsoever.

I'll say again, after 5 years of BF2, weapon damage feels about the same. Personally, I think some of the default guns need their accuracy lowered a notch or two...
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February 15, 2010 4:43:36 PM

gamerk316 said:
SMG's are really useless except as spray and prey and short range, and single shots at mid-long range. Just like BF2, very, very few guns are good at full auto at any range whatsoever.

I'll say again, after 5 years of BF2, weapon damage feels about the same. Personally, I think some of the default guns need their accuracy lowered a notch or two...


SMGs are useless because thats what people do, spray and pray (that some will hit lol) They dont do much damage, dont have good range, and dont have that great of accuracy. I dont see why people use them.
EDIT: i agree fully with you :) 
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February 15, 2010 7:20:18 PM

gamerk316 said:

I'll say again, after 5 years of BF2, weapon damage feels about the same. Personally, I think some of the default guns need their accuracy lowered a notch or two...



Yeah, big time. The engineer's base rifle is practically a sniper rifle with iron sights. It has almost no kick either so people can head shot like crazy with it.
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February 15, 2010 7:53:07 PM

SpinachEater said:
Yeah, big time. The engineer's base rifle is practically a sniper rifle with iron sights. It has almost no kick either so people can head shot like crazy with it.


Wow i never even tried that gun besides in the very beginning. Hehe ill have to give it a shot.
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February 15, 2010 11:12:10 PM

Does anyone know if there is a way to toggle the crouch. Right now it has to be held to remain in crouch position. If you did not have to hold the control key to remain crouched and then when you hit shift to run you would automatically stand up would be a nice addition.

It may sound weird but after years of COD4 where crouch and prone are toggle by just hitting control or alt it makes my hand hurt after like an hour playing BC2 having to hold the control to remain in crouch position.

I am sure just like anything the muscles in my hand will adapt but it is kind of bothersome.
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February 15, 2010 11:23:08 PM

No, it must be held down. and i dont see it as much of a problem. you really shouldnt be crouching for 30 minutes at a time haha its a bit annoying but I'm already used to it.
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February 16, 2010 10:55:23 AM

JDV28 said:
SMGs are useless because thats what people do, spray and pray (that some will hit lol) They dont do much damage, dont have good range, and dont have that great of accuracy. I dont see why people use them.
EDIT: i agree fully with you :) 


Just the other day, someone tried that on me from close range; missed 90% of his shots. Two shots to the head took him down. He went bersek in the chat channel after that. :D 

BF isn't like CoD; accuracy matters.

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Yeah, big time. The engineer's base rifle is practically a sniper rifle with iron sights. It has almost no kick either so people can head shot like crazy with it.


Its no me then? No idea why its so accurate, even with its 20 round clip...
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February 16, 2010 12:42:44 PM

I was using the red dot sight on it last night. Wow.
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February 16, 2010 7:05:57 PM

damn, i really gotta try out that gun! i always thought of it as a light hitter or something. but ill give it a shot today. Im so used to the medics 200 round clips though haha or the saiga's 12 clip, i dont know an in between anymore hehe. I do love the broad range of weapons though. thats something that they did a very good job on. If anyone is going to be playing within the next few hours tell me so we can play together.
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February 17, 2010 2:37:07 PM

I CAN'T WAIT ANY LONGER!!!!!! BAHH!!!! Is it out yet? :bounce: 

Edit: JD, you ready for some late nights?
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February 17, 2010 6:46:53 PM

SpinachEater said:
I CAN'T WAIT ANY LONGER!!!!!! BAHH!!!! Is it out yet? :bounce: 

Edit: JD, you ready for some late nights?


Im ready! to supply you guys with ammo that is..
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February 17, 2010 6:51:10 PM

OH yea man. Who needs sleep? this game comes out, ill get all my sleep during the day away from home haha. So we got a designated medic and ammo supplier (assault that is) hehe i wish i had a program to record my gaming yesterday...
BTW fatal if ur still on here right now, wanna play now?
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February 17, 2010 6:57:22 PM

heh im at work. or else I would. And ill deff be the assault. Thats all I use.
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February 17, 2010 7:10:27 PM

heh alright. im going to start some maintenance on my computer now. hopefully i can have it running in a couple hours to play.
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February 17, 2010 7:12:12 PM

cool, cool Ill deff be on later. Also, I have noticed that my friends list is actually showing when people are on. Idk if it worked before for you guys but it didn't for me..
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February 17, 2010 7:45:18 PM

Not one time have I seen someone online through the friends list. How did you find me those couple of times then Fatal?
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February 17, 2010 8:19:18 PM

I went into the friends pull out menu and clicked on the arrow furthest to the right of each person on my friends list.. If they were on it would connect.
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February 17, 2010 8:54:23 PM

Yea thats what i do, just click all the arrows. and i gotta add you spinach. fatal, you are the only one that i have seen show up as online and it was yesterday.
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February 17, 2010 9:56:04 PM

Play on a hardcore server if you want more weapon damage! duh

and another repeat topic... lolz
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February 17, 2010 10:30:37 PM

Ah, sneaky sneaky sirs. I figured the friend list didn't work at all.

For more weapon damage try head shots, heh heh. Actually, I was trying to check out a hardcore last night but I only saw one and it was full with 16 people. Bah.

I will be on in a 1/2 hour or so for while tonight so I will try to track people down.
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February 18, 2010 1:04:51 AM

Sorry i wasnt on today guys, im moving my maintenance to tmrw because of some technical difficulties hehe hopefully i will be able to get my comp up and running for some team practice. BTW, if all the team members here can PM me a better way of contact, we are going to need it when the game really comes out.
also, anyone think that they are going to add a way to contact friends? like a message system in-game (from the menu, not like in-game team talk)? i thought that would be sorta cool.
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February 18, 2010 6:07:49 AM

I just noticed the HARD CORE SERVERS!!!!!! WOW how cool! lol
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February 18, 2010 10:36:50 PM

OMG i didnt want to make yet ANOTHER bc2 thread, so i thought itd fit in here.
Im stoked to say that one week from today, the beta ends, and then a week from that, IT COMES OUT WOOT
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February 19, 2010 12:28:12 AM

Hehe yeap, pretty crazy to think that 2 weeks from now we will have a ton of maps and game types to choose from. I wonder if ppl will stop playing port valdez because they are tired of it, OR play it more than others because its huge and so familiar. what do you guys think?
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February 19, 2010 12:35:04 AM

deff wont wanna play it. When they have the option of playing so many other maps why play the old one lol
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February 19, 2010 12:37:53 AM

thats true. you going to be able to play about an hour from now, or sooner?
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February 19, 2010 12:45:16 AM

oh, ill go on about 1030 est
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February 19, 2010 11:31:47 AM

I wanted to play it in the normal conquest mode to see how it played wide open but yeah, I am getting sick of that map. I will probably never choose it on my own...only when a server rotates to it.

I can't wait to see the other maps and hopefully some better graphics.
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February 19, 2010 5:49:12 PM

Ok kids. here is a very great blog post from EA.

http://blogs.battlefield.ea.com/battlefield_bad_company...

My Favorite Part:
The 'High' texture detail level is not included in the PC beta, but is in the retail game which increase texture resolution a bit.

Finally, word that the graphics will be better in the final release
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February 19, 2010 6:08:36 PM

Looking at that quote alone, all I have to say is yippy. But honestly, I would not mind if those were the graffix that were in the final game. I dont think that this game is about graphics, it is all about the gameplay, in my opinion.

But hey! Good graphics doesn't hurt! :lol: 
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February 19, 2010 6:55:02 PM

FATAL STR1K3 said:
Looking at that quote alone, all I have to say is yippy. But honestly, I would not mind if those were the graffix that were in the final game. I dont think that this game is about graphics, it is all about the gameplay, in my opinion.

But hey! Good graphics doesn't hurt! :lol: 

Yes the gameplay is much more important, but gfx are a close 2nd. Im glad the gfx will be better, it really needed it. Not that its bad now, but for such a modern game that is supposed to compete with CoD MW2, they cant half ass the graphics portion of the game.
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February 19, 2010 7:12:23 PM

Definitely agree but eye candy just makes it even more sweeter.
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