ok this is dumb even for verizon

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"grilla" <grilla@swbell.net> writes:

> the new version of the treo without the camera was announced today. the
> verizon rep said it was the exact same price as the one with the camera.
> needless to say he was asked to check further.

Palm announced this a few weeks ago. It's them, not Verizon.

David

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RiftMaven wrote:
> "grilla" <grilla@swbell.net> wrote in message
> news:hZEPc.1796$Ds5.393@newssvr23.news.prodigy.com...
>> the new version of the treo without the camera was announced today.
>> the verizon rep said it was the exact same price as the one with the
>> camera. needless to say he was asked to check further.
>
>
> The Treo 600 is the exact same price either with or without
> the camera in the Northeast region, don't know why. Many customers
> who don't necessarily want the camera are going to buy the camera
> version just because of that -- it may be what Palm wants.

I don't think so. Many will specifically *not* want the camera.
For example those who have to have it in places that require
you to check the cameras at the door. Since it's a PDA phone
and you are likely to want to have your data/schedule/etc with
you all the time (it's less of a candidate for those who use 2
phones -- one for outside and one for inside because of the
camera).

-Quick

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"Bob" <rfa5@optonline.net> wrote in message
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>
> > I don't think so. Many will specifically *not* want the camera.
> > For example those who have to have it in places that require
> > you to check the cameras at the door. Since it's a PDA phone
> > and you are likely to want to have your data/schedule/etc with
> > you all the time (it's less of a candidate for those who use 2
> > phones -- one for outside and one for inside because of the
> > camera).
> >
> > -Quick
> >
>
> I just finished serving jury duty and any person entering the courthouse
> with a camera phone had to check it at the door or else leave it in their
> car...they weren't permitted inside. Regular non-camera phones were OK.
> Another case where a "regular" phone was preferred over a camera phone!
>
> Bob
>
>
Last time I went to the court house ALL cell phones had to be checked.

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On Sat, 7 Aug 2004 13:19:03 -0500, "IMHO" <imho@nospam.net> wrote:

>Last time I went to the court house ALL cell phones had to be checked.

Where was this and where were you going in the court house? I've been
in many a court house, and have never been asked to surrender my phone
at the door. The only signs I've ever seen were ones telling you to
turn them off when in the court room.

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On Sun, 08 Aug 2004 18:53:05 -0400, Tom <tom@cox.net> wrote:

>I think he meant the phones were checked for cameras; at first I thought
> you had to hand over your phone, too. Tom

On second reading, you just might be right. But I've never seen them
check or ask here. Still, yet another great reason not to own one of
those ridiculous things. It seems the more gadgets these "phone
plus.." things acquire, the greater the restrictions and inconvenience
will be to ALL cell phone users.

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The Ghost of General Lee wrote:

> On Sun, 08 Aug 2004 18:53:05 -0400, Tom <tom@cox.net> wrote:
>
>
>>I think he meant the phones were checked for cameras; at first I thought
>> you had to hand over your phone, too. Tom
>
>
> On second reading, you just might be right. But I've never seen them
> check or ask here. Still, yet another great reason not to own one of
> those ridiculous things. It seems the more gadgets these "phone
> plus.." things acquire, the greater the restrictions and inconvenience
> will be to ALL cell phone users.
>


I agree; I have a V60s and could not be more happy with it. My only
problem with it so far is that my wife uses mine instead of her T730. I
really do just want to use my phone for talking, though I can see where
a lot of people find them very useful for business, and might like
Bluetooth etc.

Tom

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On Sun, 08 Aug 2004 20:36:50 -0400, Tom <tom@cox.net> wrote:

>though I can see where
>a lot of people find them very useful for business

I guess I'm having a hard time imagining what business would prefer
the lower grade photos of a phone/camera combo over the higher
resolution of a decent digital camera.

This camera-in-a-phone craze seems geared more towards the kids and
people who just like gadgets. Of course, more by consequence than
design, they can come in handy at times, like documenting a crime in
progress. But then, I carry my digital camera with me, too.

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The Ghost of General Lee wrote:

> On Sun, 08 Aug 2004 20:36:50 -0400, Tom <tom@cox.net> wrote:
>
>
>>though I can see where
>>a lot of people find them very useful for business
>
>
> I guess I'm having a hard time imagining what business would prefer
> the lower grade photos of a phone/camera combo over the higher
> resolution of a decent digital camera.


Sorry; I was thinking about some of the other features business people
might want like Bluetooth, PDA's etc, and not a camera phone. I only
made it sound like I was talking about a camera phone.

Hell, even the above may be mistaken, since I am not a businessman. I
only use my phone to talk, and I hope I never get so busy I need a PDA.
If I do, I hope I can instead afford a good looking secretary. Tom

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On Sun, 08 Aug 2004 14:35:08 -0400, The Ghost of General Lee
<ghost@general.lee> chose to add this to the great equation of life, the
universe, and everything:

>On Sat, 7 Aug 2004 13:19:03 -0500, "IMHO" <imho@nospam.net> wrote:
>
>>Last time I went to the court house ALL cell phones had to be checked.
>
>Where was this and where were you going in the court house? I've been
>in many a court house, and have never been asked to surrender my phone
>at the door. The only signs I've ever seen were ones telling you to
>turn them off when in the court room.

The last time I had jury duty was in the mid-90s, before I had a cell
phone, but they did have a rule against them and used it to also deny me my
ham ht, even in the room where you wait to be called for a jury (I sat all
day in uncomfortable chairs and never got called). Reasoning was that it
can transmit.

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On Wed, 11 Aug 2004 01:30:31 -0400, The Ghost of General Lee
<ghost@general.lee> chose to add this to the great equation of life, the
universe, and everything:

>, and it had a sign
>that said phones must be off in the court rooms

I visited my father in the hospital several times this week. They have
signs all over the place saying "NO CELLULAR PHONES". One day, the room
phone wasn't working, so he used his cell phone (Cingular TDMA) to call me.
On the day he left, someone called me on mine while I was there. Nobody
ever said anything about it.

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Excellent!!

My complements...


"The Ghost of General Lee" <ghost@general.lee> wrote in message news:cfkvh0dl2chm3hv6gjijs67ae0hipko499@4ax.com...
> On Sat, 14 Aug 2004 18:37:02 GMT, David S
> <dwstreeter@spamisnaughty.att.net> wrote:
>
> >>, and it had a sign
> >>that said phones must be off in the court rooms
> >
> >I visited my father in the hospital several times this week. They have
> >signs all over the place saying "NO CELLULAR PHONES". One day, the room
> >phone wasn't working, so he used his cell phone (Cingular TDMA) to call me.
> >On the day he left, someone called me on mine while I was there. Nobody
> >ever said anything about it.
>
> Phones only cause limited problems with limited equipment. They
> aren't the problems some hospitals make them out to be. I mean,
> there's a cell tower across the street from most hospitals here.
>
> Just for fun, and in an act of nonviolent resistance, I changed the
> banner on my phone to say "Phone is off". When I was challenged upon
> entering the hospital (I was just going to the offices on the side to
> pay a bill), I showed the "guard" the phone, she read the screen, and
> thanked me for my "compliance".
>
>