XP2400+ on 8KHA+??

[madkat]

Hi all,

I was wondering if my mobo (KT266A) supported XP2400+ THOROUGHBRED. I have a XP1600+ at the moment and i'm trying to run doom3 (Vid card9800PRO) but i'm not getting smooth frame rates. Basically i'm wondering if upgrading to a XP2400+ is possible and will it be worth it? Thanx in advance.

Madkat

 

[ChipDeath]

AFAIK it should work (<i>might</i> need a BIOS update), but I personally would replace the motherboard rather than the chip. Overclocking your existing chip in an nforce2 mobo will probably give you better overall performance than simply sticking a 2400+ in your current board. Even though I think your CPU must be a Palomino core (AFAIK the slowest t-breds were 1700+ chips), you should still be able to get 1.6-1.7Ghz out of it before you start needing better cooling.

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[madkat]

ChipDeath,

Thanks for the suggestion ChipDeath. Lets just say overclocking was my friend until 2HDs blew up on me (i'm guessing from PCI overclocking). I'm looking to improve performance in a stable manner if will. My CPU is a Palomino core and it's getting a bit old i guess 2 1/2 years. Just wondering if 2400+ or 2600+ (if i can still find one) is worth the upgrade for Doom 3. Sigh.. it's an endless cycle.

Madkat

 

[ChipDeath]

(i'm guessing from PCI overclocking)

Hence the suggestion to get an nforce2 mobo. The chipset allows locking of the AGP/PCI bus, so you have completely free reign over the FSB and don't have to worry about it!

If you can get hold of a 2400+ cheap, then maybe give it a go. I just think you'll see a greater improvement from replacing the board rather than the CPU. Although it would be much more effort, and probably slightly more expensive.

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Epox 8RDA+ V1.1 w/ Custom NB HS
XP1700+ @200x10 (~2Ghz), 1.4 Vcore
2x256Mb Corsair PC3200LL/1x512Mb Corsair XMS PC4000 2.5-3-3-7
Sapphire 9800Pro @412/740

 

[madkat]

ooh i didn't know there was a mobo for socket A which enabled AGP/PCI bus locking. Nice one. There is a problem though, if i decide to go down that path, yes i would get better performance (i can see you've done well for yourself) but since i can only up the system bus, i would most likely need to buy new memory sticks (mine are only rated @ DDR266 not DDR400). I've decided to go the route of buying a new CPU, because it's probably the cheapest option I've got for a performance upgrade (unless there's something i'm missing). Thanks for your prompt reply.

Madkat

 

[Nights_L]

I would get a 2400+ instead of a new chipset, 2400 is not expensive now, then I'll save money and go for a whole new system later, since u got a 1600+ palomino, it's not going to overclock too far, and ur DDR266 is limited you from overclocking at same time
However i'm not saying getting a new chipset is a bad idea, it's just if u want to save money, I think a 2400+ should be ok, there is a good 600MHz difference between 1600+ and 2400+.
But that's my opinion anyway..so don't get pissed ChipDeath

 

[Spitfire_x86]

The extra performance from (nForce2 + overclocking) is not good enough to justify the cost of a new mobo.

I recommend getting 2400+

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[madkat]

Thanks for your replies,

Spitfire_x86: "I recommend getting 2400+"

This brings me back to my original question... Does my mobo support the 2400+? It has the KT266A chipset, I just wanted to be sure before I went gunho and bought the CPU only to find out my mobo doesn't support it That's why I wanted to make sure.

Madkat

 

[Nights_L]

It does, KT266A supports all the Athlon XP with 266FSB, u might want to check the the website to see if any BIOS update is necessary

 

[Spitfire_x86]

It should work.

All you need is 15x multiplier and 1.65v support. I think your mobo can provide it, at least with latest bios.

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[ChipDeath]

so don't get pissed ChipDeath

No worries mate...
It's just he's talking about DoomIII, and AFAIK it's not <i>that</i> heavy on the Physics & AI (i.e. stuff the CPU's doing), but it <i>does</i> like lots of memory bandwidth, and with a little Vdimm Increase I suspect he'll hit the Limit of the CPU before the RAM. Although it could be a bit hit 'n' miss, depending on the RAM.. I have some Crucial PC2100 that does 175Mhz, cas 2.5 without any extra volts, so if his ram was as good he'd not do too bad.

Like I said to him - it's certainly easier and cheaper to just upgrade the CPU, but I <i>personally</i> would swap the mobo.. Plus I don't like VIA chipsets (personal experience, although I don't <i>hate</i> them as deeply as crashman..), so I'm probably Biased against sticking with one. :lol:

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Epox 8RDA+ V1.1 w/ Custom NB HS
XP1700+ @200x10 (~2Ghz), 1.4 Vcore
2x256Mb Corsair PC3200LL/1x512Mb Corsair XMS PC4000 2.5-3-3-7
Sapphire 9800Pro @412/740

 

[Nights_L]

OMG, your Crucial PC2100 does 175Mhz??
hm..I wonder how far my Crucial PC2700 can go..can it do 200Mhz?

heh..at least he owns a VIA KT266A..not <i>that bad</i>