PCI Express motherboards for A64

I'm considering getting an A64 3500+ and the MSI K8N Neo 2 Platinum with a GF6800GT. However, from a "future-proofing" point of view would it be more worth my while to hang on for a PCI Express motherboard and gfx card? If so, when is the release date for these though to be?
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  1. My guesses are usually fairly good, I'm going to guess January.

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  2. Do you intend to use SLI? If you are not planning to spend over a grand to get two identicle, expensive graphics cards, PCIexp is useless.
  3. Won't AGP slowly be phased out?

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  4. Agp will be phased out when people stop buying them. Since they are just as good as PCIexp, that may not happen for a while.
    The big advantage to PCIexp is that you now have your graphics, and pci cards on the same bus. That way, if you go high end on sound, lan, and raid cards, you can start to limit the available band width to your graphics card. You just cant do that if you have 2 seperate buses.
  5. ive got the same future proofing problem as its called. why spend $400 on a card now that will be phazed out in 12-18 months. but your shinning hope over there. is pci express really that bad? should i spend it all on agp still?


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  6. Sorry if this is a noob question but is there any chance of mobo's appearing that will sport both AGP and PCIexp? Or is there no business case and will it be cheaper to upgrade mobo as well as graphics card later on?


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  7. the only one ive found is an Abit that is in the mobo line up of thiers but not available for sale yet. its socket 478. check it out here http://www.abit-usa.com/products/mb/techspec.php?categories=1&model=206

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  8. Yeah. I can't really see the need for pci-express except to make everyone feel inadequate. that is the only reason why new technology comes out, to make the gamer sitting in his hole looking at his frames feel pathetic.

    Current agp speeds have no wheres near gotten to their max potential. So if the industries move to pci-express before they give you a better agp system, they are doing so to make you feel small and useless, inadequate and in desperate need of a "new system".


    <P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by el_jefe_77 on 09/08/04 11:54 AM.</EM></FONT></P>
  9. Quote:
    Sorry if this is a noob question but is there any chance of mobo's appearing that will sport both AGP and PCIexp?

    There are already (intel) boards that have both sockets, BUT their agp slot actually sits on their (legacy) PCI bus, so is inferior to a proper AGP bus.

    I don't see any reason to buy a PCI-Express board for a good year at least, probably more. PCI/AGP isn't going to die that quickly - far too many 'old' systems out there for them to kill it that soon.

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  10. so jefe you think buying a 400$ agp card is ok? what do you think its life will be?


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    <P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by onesaint on 09/08/04 02:10 PM.</EM></FONT></P>
  11. so is the general consensus that I should spend my £800 now on:

    Athlon64 3500+
    GF6800 GT
    MSI K8N nForce 3

    It sounds like this kit will be far in advance of most of the current games for 6 - 12 months or so and will be upgradeable for another 2 years at least (when faster A64s come out along with better gfx cards).
  12. Quote:
    The big advantage to PCIexp is that you now have your graphics, and pci cards on the same bus. That way, if you go high end on sound, lan, and raid cards, you can start to limit the available band width to your graphics card. You just cant do that if you have 2 seperate buses.

    Didn't you mean to say "dis"advantage?

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  13. Hey ONE SAINT!
    "you have a plethora of presents here, jefe"
    "Pedro, do you know what a plethora is? Because i would not want you to use a word if you do not know the meaning."
    You know where I got my name!!!!

    HOLY CRAP !!! NO ONE, not one, ever ever has figured it out like that cold. And I have had this name since that skit.

    It also has mention of pinatas.

    I will give you my old name before 1989.
    Wak Rather
    Figure out that one, and um, I'll do something special for you.

    But yes, he 400 cash or 370 as I have seen them, will get you the sickest and worth the dollar experience in video card gaming. nvidia 6800 with 256 ram.

    Personaly, I think all cards this year should come with 256 minimum and 512 should be the higher priced option.
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