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Ok, I know I've thought about this before but now I'm really getting serious. I'm going to build a house. What are things I need to look for in a lot. I know you generally want a fire department and police department nearby and you need a grocery store within 10miles. I'm just going to build a starter home. A 3 bed 2bath 1500 sq. feet on a concrete slab. I believe that I'm going to put thremal heating in the floor (you know the polypropolene tubing that you run hot water through). I want a garage but I'm thinking I don't want it attached to the house. What I need to know is how do you go about finding out if the school systems are good, and about the property taxes, and the general neighborhood? I'm going to get a builders loan (that's one where you don't start payments on the mortgage until you move in) and build it myself. I'll have my dad, brother, uncle and cousins help me of course. My dad is a Heating & Air man with very good knowledge of plumbing and electrical systems. My uncle is a carpenter in the union and so are my cousins. My brother is just a lowly laborer in the union :wink: . I have tons of free time that I could spend building the house. I've helped build both of my grandma's houses and i've put in numerous heating and air systems my self. So I don't think I'll have any problem getting it put together. I guess my biggest question is do you have to have a licensed contractor do the electrical and plumbing in the city? I mean as long as it meets code it should be ok right? Any thoughts and suggestions are welcome.

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Whew!, man...you´re talking about building a freaking house!

That´s quite some project if you ask me...
Just the thought of having to walk down to the grocery store is very hard for me, would never ever even consider building a house!, but hey...that´s me, lazy and all :wink:

Well anyway, sorry but I just don´t have any advice when it comes to slap a house together but I might as well wish you good luck :smile:

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Reply to Jake75
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Go to the city hall and ask the people there about your city laws on building things. They'll give you some advice, you'll need to buy a little license to build your house too.

Reply to Simon5

I was in construction for 5 years and I concur.
City hall should be your first stop.
I don't know the laws in Missouri, but here you need everything inspected every step of the way.


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Reply to starbucksaddict

Make sure you rig it for good phone, cable & broadband. Oh, and make sure there's a room for a refrigeration unit for your water cooling system.

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Reply to camieabz

I'll run a special water pipe just for my system :wink:

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Reply to Yahiko81

Thanks about the city hall advice, didn't think of that yet.

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Reply to Yahiko81
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for the inhouse plumbing and wiring, i don't believe you have to be a licensed plumber/electrician. but hooking those systems up to the cities lines/trunks i think you do (at least here in mich). you and your family should know some builders/contractors. get in touch with them, they'll be sure to know ins and outs of the laws, policies.(as far as ordinances/permits/etc). in mich it's just about as easy getting a contractor's license as it is to get a dba.

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Reply to mbetea

ooo you can also wire the house with cat 5 cables, i've seen actual outlets. that way you can have some serious lan partys and it is a whole hell of a lot easier than running all those damned cables under the carpet or taping them to the ceiling. mmmm power outlets, phone jacks and cat 5! every house should have it.

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Reply to starbucksaddict
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Cool, but rather useless in my house, not enough PCs in one room for that.

My watercooler contains so much water that the moon has influence upon it :eek: .

Reply to svol

..a good investment nevertheless, broadband will inevitably become more prevalent and having cable outlets will be as important as telephone and TV outlets in a house. If you're building from scratch, then why not?....

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Reply to WingDing
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Yeah, that is a good point.

I vote to build in LAN cables in new-build houses.

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Reply to svol
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dont forget to run network drops.
you should make the house out of aol disks, that would be cool, or at least use them for insulation.

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Reply to jihiggs

....at the risk of stating the obvious, plan the location of electricity, telephone and cable sockets carefully....

....in my apartment the cable TV socket is about 5 metres from the nearest electricity socket, which means we have cables all over the place....very poor planning....

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Reply to WingDing
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Designers of houses have much more important things to do like... uhm... well... idonnow...

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Reply to svol

..and while I'm on the subject, give a little consideration to light reflections and acoustics when deciding an ideal spot for your computer......nothing worse than a great PC in a lousy location.....

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Reply to WingDing

I've been doing some checkin and i'm starting to get pissed. I'm looking at lot's and most places won't sell to you unless you buy three lots. And then I was looking into getting building permits and some of the city's won't let you get a permit unless you are a licensed contractor. Hmm.. One suggestion I got from someone was find a house in the early stage of construction and talk to the builder to see if he'll let me do the heating and air, electrical, and finishing the basement. I don't know though, cause if I go that route it's not really going to be a house that I want. Damn... i may have to move out in the country to get what I want.

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Reply to Yahiko81
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Just get a plot on the otherside of city limits...you will be in town in no time! :smile:

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Reply to buddry

You wont regret upgrading to a crawl space from the slab.

Makes wiring/ plumbing/ electrical sooo much easier.

and if later you want to upgrade no problem- dont have to break concrete.

I was able to install an untility sink in my garage because I have a crawl space. Later next year I'm going to build an additional room, and will add a 1/2 bath.
Needed an extra telephone plug for my pc :smile: , no problem, went down in the crawlspace and pulled that wire.

None of this was possible if I had a slab.



In my city, you can get a building permit no problem, but you have to have work done by licenced guys (electrical, pluming, heating/air) the rest you can do yourself- as long as it will pass inspection at the end.

Going to the city hall is your best bet, they will have all the info you need.

Reply to globe111

I absolutely hate crawl spaces. I've been in about all types that you can think of. I've worked in HVAC for prolly around 10~12 years. I'm EPA certified to work on and install ac's. I agree that a slab is a bitch to work with but look at it this way. I'm going to design everything I want originally. This is going to be my starter home. i'll prolly sell it in 4~7 years. My next house is going to have a basement.

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Reply to Yahiko81

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Reply to YoungBear

*squeak!! *squeak-itty-squeak!*

[dont forget the insulated plumbing pipes to the basement cryogenic cooler for your computers cooling needs]

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