Moto 710 Blues

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This is THE major reason that I don't have a camera phone. I also work
in the defense field and the same rules apply to me as well.

Dave

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Likewise in Healthcare, camera phones are viewed as a HIPPA violation.

"Bruce D. Brown" <bdbrown@socal.rr.com> wrote in message
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> Alphageek
>
> Like you I am an Independent Contractor to the US Government and many
times
> in recent months I have been asked if I have a digital camera or a camera
> equiped cell phone. I just got the V710 and twice last week, I have been
> required to leave my cell phone at the security desk prior to entering
into
> govermental facilities. I now have a policy of leaving my cell phone in
the
> car when I go into secure areas. Friday, I was at Fort Bragg, NC and
forgot
> to leave the phone in the car. I parked quite a long distance from the
> security desk and had to walk back to my car in the rain in order to lose
> the cell phone. I got drenched.
>
> I am still within the trial period on this phone and have decided that I
am
> going to return the phone and wait until a new non-camera bluetooth phone
> comes out. The V710 is a great phone but.... In the mean time I will
> continue to use my LG4500.
>
> Bruce D. Brown
>
> "alphageek" <noemailplease@uhdelfia.not> wrote in message
> news:iaudneRK9owuPILcRVn-tQ@adelphia.com...
> > Just like most of you I have been eagerly anticipating the new phone,
and
> > planned to snatch one up on the first day, but shortly before the big
> > event,
> > my company, a major defense contractor, announced a new policy which
> > forbids
> > the use of cameras and camera-equipped cellular phones on company
> > premises.
> > I have to admit that it makes sense.
> >
> > And as if that wasn't bad enough, one of the sites I occasionally visit
is
> > a
> > local Navy base, and they too forbid (and I'm told will even confiscate)
> > cameras and camera equipped phones. You can't even have it in the car
if
> > you're in areas other than base housing, and that's not where I have to
> > go.
> > I can completely understand why these security regulations are in place.
> >
> > My health club is now considering prohibiting camera equipped cell
phones
> > for privacy reasons. (What are those little teeny boppers going to do
> > while
> > riding the cycles or treadmills if they can't have their cell phones?)
> >
> > So I guess I'll have to continue to envy and lust after the phone until
> > someone comes up with a non-camera version. It makes me wonder if others
> > have encountered similar camera issues, and what affect this might have
> > upon
> > phone manufacturers.
> >
> >
>
>

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There is always the option of physically removing the camera out of
the phone. For example, the LG VX6000 camera is a simple module that
has it's own flex cable and plug. Its easy to remove and install in
the future without any damage... assuming you can find someone who is
comfortable with disassembling and reassembling the phone.

On Sun, 15 Aug 2004 18:08:37 GMT, "Bruce D. Brown"
<bdbrown@socal.rr.com> wrote:

>Alphageek
>
>Like you I am an Independent Contractor to the US Government and many times
>in recent months I have been asked if I have a digital camera or a camera
>equiped cell phone. I just got the V710 and twice last week, I have been
>required to leave my cell phone at the security desk prior to entering into
>govermental facilities. I now have a policy of leaving my cell phone in the
>car when I go into secure areas. Friday, I was at Fort Bragg, NC and forgot
>to leave the phone in the car. I parked quite a long distance from the
>security desk and had to walk back to my car in the rain in order to lose
>the cell phone. I got drenched.
>
>I am still within the trial period on this phone and have decided that I am
>going to return the phone and wait until a new non-camera bluetooth phone
>comes out. The V710 is a great phone but.... In the mean time I will
>continue to use my LG4500.
>
>Bruce D. Brown
>
>"alphageek" <noemailplease@uhdelfia.not> wrote in message
>news:iaudneRK9owuPILcRVn-tQ@adelphia.com...
>> Just like most of you I have been eagerly anticipating the new phone, and
>> planned to snatch one up on the first day, but shortly before the big
>> event,
>> my company, a major defense contractor, announced a new policy which
>> forbids
>> the use of cameras and camera-equipped cellular phones on company
>> premises.
>> I have to admit that it makes sense.
>>
>> And as if that wasn't bad enough, one of the sites I occasionally visit is
>> a
>> local Navy base, and they too forbid (and I'm told will even confiscate)
>> cameras and camera equipped phones. You can't even have it in the car if
>> you're in areas other than base housing, and that's not where I have to
>> go.
>> I can completely understand why these security regulations are in place.
>>
>> My health club is now considering prohibiting camera equipped cell phones
>> for privacy reasons. (What are those little teeny boppers going to do
>> while
>> riding the cycles or treadmills if they can't have their cell phones?)
>>
>> So I guess I'll have to continue to envy and lust after the phone until
>> someone comes up with a non-camera version. It makes me wonder if others
>> have encountered similar camera issues, and what affect this might have
>> upon
>> phone manufacturers.
>>
>>
>

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In article <FENTc.4633$aB1.2702@twister.socal.rr.com>,
"Bruce D. Brown" <bdbrown@socal.rr.com> wrote:

> Like you I am an Independent Contractor to the US Government and many
> times in recent months I have been asked if I have a digital camera
> or a camera equiped cell phone. I just got the V710 and twice last
> week, I have been required to leave my cell phone at the security
> desk prior to entering into govermental facilities.

My son-in-law is in the army and works in a secure facility; no cell
phones at all are allowed there.

--
Stop Mad Cowboy Disease: Vote for John Kerry.

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Don't worry about it. That phone is plagued with loads of bugs and problems,
you'll probably just have trouble using it to begin with.


"alphageek" <noemailplease@uhdelfia.not> wrote in message
news:iaudneRK9owuPILcRVn-tQ@adelphia.com...
> Just like most of you I have been eagerly anticipating the new phone, and
> planned to snatch one up on the first day, but shortly before the big
event,
> my company, a major defense contractor, announced a new policy which
forbids
> the use of cameras and camera-equipped cellular phones on company
premises.
> I have to admit that it makes sense.
>
> And as if that wasn't bad enough, one of the sites I occasionally visit is
a
> local Navy base, and they too forbid (and I'm told will even confiscate)
> cameras and camera equipped phones. You can't even have it in the car if
> you're in areas other than base housing, and that's not where I have to
go.
> I can completely understand why these security regulations are in place.
>
> My health club is now considering prohibiting camera equipped cell phones
> for privacy reasons. (What are those little teeny boppers going to do
while
> riding the cycles or treadmills if they can't have their cell phones?)
>
> So I guess I'll have to continue to envy and lust after the phone until
> someone comes up with a non-camera version. It makes me wonder if others
> have encountered similar camera issues, and what affect this might have
upon
> phone manufacturers.
>
>

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I agree. I own one also. Best phone I ever had. No bugs, no problems.
Perhaps a couple of design changes would be recommended.

"Dirk McGurk" <er9jf09r3c9rcu@XR4TU.BITNET> wrote in message
news:acsei0pnrcq37tk35d71up2i3dv8mj2lvr@4ax.com...
> On Mon, 16 Aug 2004 23:31:12 -0400, "Killer Madness"
> <killer@nospam.net> wrote:
>
> >Don't worry about it. That phone is plagued with loads of bugs and
problems,
> >you'll probably just have trouble using it to begin with.
>
> Before the phone was released you did nothing but claim it wouldn't
> be. Now that it has been released (on time) you do nothing but talk
> about bugs and problems. I own one. No bugs, no problems other than
> the lack of an OBEX profile in the bluetooth stack.
>
> Do you own one? If not, how do you "know" so much and how is it that
> you continue to claim knowledge when everything you've said has been
> incorrect?
>

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CBC,

I can just imagine telling the guards stationed at some of the site that I
removed the camera. They have been "trained" to look for a camera in a
phone and most of the time are not the most intellegent persons. Good Luck.

Bruce

"CBC" <jax@presidency.com> wrote in message
news:9e812e3c.0408220541.56cd2895@posting.google.com...
> Has anyone tried taking the camera out? I have the same problem -
> can't have a camera but would like bluetooth. I guess I could spray
> paint the lens - but that seems somehow, wrong.
> -JAX
>
> Luke <pupascoopa@wagonwheel.nctv.com> wrote in message
> news:<5revh0h46k5917lmljr0159frd14javsn1@4ax.com>...
>> There is always the option of physically removing the camera out of
>> the phone. For example, the LG VX6000 camera is a simple module that
>> has it's own flex cable and plug. Its easy to remove and install in
>> the future without any damage... assuming you can find someone who is
>> comfortable with disassembling and reassembling the phone.
>>
>> On Sun, 15 Aug 2004 18:08:37 GMT, "Bruce D. Brown"
>> <bdbrown@socal.rr.com> wrote:
>>
>> >Alphageek
>> >
>> >Like you I am an Independent Contractor to the US Government and many
>> >times
>> >in recent months I have been asked if I have a digital camera or a
>> >camera
>> >equiped cell phone. I just got the V710 and twice last week, I have
>> >been
>> >required to leave my cell phone at the security desk prior to entering
>> >into
>> >govermental facilities. I now have a policy of leaving my cell phone in
>> >the
>> >car when I go into secure areas. Friday, I was at Fort Bragg, NC and
>> >forgot
>> >to leave the phone in the car. I parked quite a long distance from the
>> >security desk and had to walk back to my car in the rain in order to
>> >lose
>> >the cell phone. I got drenched.
>> >
>> >I am still within the trial period on this phone and have decided that I
>> >am
>> >going to return the phone and wait until a new non-camera bluetooth
>> >phone
>> >comes out. The V710 is a great phone but.... In the mean time I will
>> >continue to use my LG4500.
>> >
>> >Bruce D. Brown
>> >
>> >"alphageek" <noemailplease@uhdelfia.not> wrote in message
>> >news:iaudneRK9owuPILcRVn-tQ@adelphia.com...
>> >> Just like most of you I have been eagerly anticipating the new phone,
>> >> and
>> >> planned to snatch one up on the first day, but shortly before the big
>> >> event,
>> >> my company, a major defense contractor, announced a new policy which
>> >> forbids
>> >> the use of cameras and camera-equipped cellular phones on company
>> >> premises.
>> >> I have to admit that it makes sense.
>> >>
>> >> And as if that wasn't bad enough, one of the sites I occasionally
>> >> visit is
>> >> a
>> >> local Navy base, and they too forbid (and I'm told will even
>> >> confiscate)
>> >> cameras and camera equipped phones. You can't even have it in the car
>> >> if
>> >> you're in areas other than base housing, and that's not where I have
>> >> to
>> >> go.
>> >> I can completely understand why these security regulations are in
>> >> place.
>> >>
>> >> My health club is now considering prohibiting camera equipped cell
>> >> phones
>> >> for privacy reasons. (What are those little teeny boppers going to do
>> >> while
>> >> riding the cycles or treadmills if they can't have their cell phones?)
>> >>
>> >> So I guess I'll have to continue to envy and lust after the phone
>> >> until
>> >> someone comes up with a non-camera version. It makes me wonder if
>> >> others
>> >> have encountered similar camera issues, and what affect this might
>> >> have
>> >> upon
>> >> phone manufacturers.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >