Don't be like me. Never, ever be like me.

Decker87

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I ask you only to keep from crying on your keyboard as you hear this story. It is a story about what not to do. It's ver, very sad.

It was a dark and stormy night and I was working angrily on my new computer. I had just gotten windows up and running and was beginning to overclock. Overclocking wasn't going well, and I couldn't even get past 2 ghz. It didn't seem to be working quite right, so I thought that maybe I should update the BiOS. Little did I know what trouble was in store for me. So I went ahead and downloaded the latest BiOS on my other computer and put it on a disk and took it downstairs. Little did I know that I downloaded the wrong version. So, I flashed it and it never posted again. Someone from these great forums pointed me to T-Mod's site and I thought I was saved. I looked at the pictures on his website, and saw that on his Bios chips page he had pictures of PLCC and DIP chips. They both had the "Winbond" logo on them. So, I figured I'd go down and try to yank that sucker out. So I hopped over to my motherboard with a paper clip PLCC remover...and found the chip with the little "Winbond" logo. It didn't look like it had much of a socket, but I was willing to give it a try. I couldn't ge tthe paper clip to latch onto anything. I heard about using fishing string, so I went and rented some heavy duty (35 lb) stuff and used that. I threaded it under the "Winbond" chip and pulled. It wouldn't come off. I looked down and saw that I had bent some pins, and ripped out a single piece of the board's circuitry. Figuring it was now ruined, I went ahead and just removed the damn thing. A couple days later I came back down and thought to myself: "Maybe not all Bioses say Winbond". So, I went and looked around my board once more only to find a nice little chip sitting inside a socket that said "Phoenix Bios" on it. I'm still not sure what the chip is that I pulled off. I may never know. It was close to the RAM and says Winbond. I managed to pull off the actual bios chip with ease a little bit later. I'm thinking about sharpening it to a very fine point and killing myself with it.
 

Cybercraig

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Supersilly guy. The Winbond chip was probably for motherboard monitoring functions. Winbond does not make BIOS chips.

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RichPLS

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*sniff, sniff*

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And the sign says "You got to have a membership card to get inside" Huh
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Crashman

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LOL, you don't pull off chips, you pull OUT chips. If a chip isn't socketed, you don't remove it. If a chip isn't socketed, it's soldered to the board and non-replacable. Some BIOS chips are soldered on, and non-replacable.

Also, most boards don't flash the boot-block. That means even if you put the wrong BIOS on them, they can usually be fixed. This involves putting the BIOS and flash utility on a CD and turning the computer on. Sometimes you have to hold down a key to force bios-recovery, I think it's the "home" key but I can't remember.

In any case, you made a repairable board non-repairable. Congratulations.

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RichPLS

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Well, ya live an learn, some just live...

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cheepgeek

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hey ya know what... i'm willing to bet that everyone in the THG community has fried at least one compenent in their varied experiences.
i personally had a slot 1 board a long time ago that i got freebie from my uncle (ASUS P2B) with no slot brackets to hold the cpu in place. it ran fine on its side while i was waiting for the part to come in and i had the side of the tower off. i showed a buddy of mine the setup and told him "it's fine, i just don't like the fact that it moves a little" and i showed him that i could wiggle it. after the screen went blank and the mobo wouldn't post i went down to his room and ordered a "brand new" ASUS P3V4X.
everyone has ruined something through sheer stupidity
<b>welcome to the club!!!</b>

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sobelizard

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I burnt toast once. Never fried an pc parts yet...although I've taken cd shrapnel in a fit of Microshit rage. Penetrated the eyelid but not the eyeball. Neat scar...almost looks like the Linux logo.

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Decker87

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I tried cutting a cd with a miter saw once. It burst into a thousand pieces, one of them projected through the sheetrock to the other side of the wall. I guess I'm pretty prone to experimentation, but I like it better than always doing things that are already pre-established.
 

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During my first build, about 4 years ago, back when NewEgg RMA's no questions asked, I did fry a board I think by lifting into the MoBo tray by the HSF. The board booted once then died. I'm pretty sure I was responsible for that one. I've done 3 builds since with nary a hiccup.

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Mode_Locrian

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Heh, just recently I was building a new machine for my dad (the third machine I've built, so I'm still a noob), and I could not get it to POST. No signal to the monitor, no beeps, no nothing. It turns out that I somehow managed to not quite get the CPU all the way into the socket (which also explains why the HSF was so #@*%! hard to get on). I must have used a negative amount of insertion force I guess. Anyway, I was able to reseat the CPU, and I fortunatly didn't crack the core in forcing the HSF on the first time, so now everything works great.

I sure felt like an idiot, though. "Yeah dad, I'll build a new machine for you... it's easy." Heh.

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RichPLS

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I did that once. LOL

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