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camieabz   08-07-2002 at 08:59:18 PM

<A HREF="http://bbs.adslguide.org.uk/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=windows&Number=374384&page=0&view=expanded&sb=5&o=&fpart=1&vc=1&PHPSESSID=" target="_new">Here's</A> a link to a thread in another forum. It's a UK forum and it's ADSL/networking specific, thus why I've tried there first.

Any ideas are welcome.

<b><font color=blue>~ BIOS SETTINGS: Fast, Hot, Unstable...That ought to work. ~</font color=blue></b> :wink:

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kaorisdad   08-08-2002 at 12:46:20 AM
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After reading the post, it sounds like the network is going 'one-way.' Can he transfer files between each computer? Or is it just an internet problem? A shot in the dark might be to make sure the Access Control tab is clicked on Share Level Access (in Client for Microsoft Networks). I had a problem where my network appeared to be working fine in one direction (I could transfer files from my WinXP to my Win98 PC, but not the other way around.). I did not have problems with Internet sharing however.

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camieabz   08-08-2002 at 12:56:14 AM
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The problem is just getting a ping off the router using the W2K system. Not tried file/print sharing yet! No point until I get the ping.

<b><font color=blue>~ BIOS SETTINGS: Fast, Hot, Unstable...That ought to work. ~</font color=blue></b> :wink:

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jihiggs   08-08-2002 at 01:48:11 AM
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why is your default gateway set to 192.168.7.1? most routers use 192.168.1.1

how do you shoot the devil in the back? what happens if you miss? -verbal

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jlanka   08-08-2002 at 01:07:42 PM
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Here's a shot in the dark: could it be that the router is maintaing an ARP table and see's a different MAC address with the same IP and won't respond to it? Have you tried setting the W2K box up as .3 ?

<i>It's always the one thing you never suspected.</i>

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camieabz   08-08-2002 at 04:15:44 PM
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Router default settings.

<b><font color=blue>~ BIOS SETTINGS: Fast, Hot, Unstable...That ought to work. ~</font color=blue></b> :wink:

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camieabz   08-08-2002 at 04:16:58 PM
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It's not the same IP though. 192.168.7.2 for W98SE, 192.168.7.3 for W2K.

Read down the linked thread. I posted a full ipconfig & route print.

<b><font color=blue>~ BIOS SETTINGS: Fast, Hot, Unstable...That ought to work. ~</font color=blue></b> :wink:

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camieabz   08-08-2002 at 04:17:53 PM
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Ahh. I see what you're saying. I originally tried that, but when it didn't work, I changed my W2K setup to 192.168.7.3

<b><font color=blue>~ BIOS SETTINGS: Fast, Hot, Unstable...That ought to work. ~</font color=blue></b> :wink:

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jlanka   08-08-2002 at 04:29:30 PM
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What is the error you get from the ping? Request timed out?

<i>It's always the one thing you never suspected.</i><P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by jlanka on 08/08/02 10:35 AM.</EM></FONT></P>

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camieabz   08-08-2002 at 05:23:03 PM
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Yup. Always that one. Never unreachable.

<b><font color=blue>~ BIOS SETTINGS: Fast, Hot, Unstable...That ought to work. ~</font color=blue></b> :wink:

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jlanka   08-08-2002 at 05:50:39 PM
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What model router?

<i>It's always the one thing you never suspected.</i>

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camieabz   08-08-2002 at 07:43:24 PM
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Solwise SAR715 4-port ethernet.

<A HREF="http://www.solwise.co.uk/adslspec.htm#SAR715" target="_new">Link here</A>

Not sure if the spec on the website is up to date, but the latest firmware has included a firewall as well as the NAT, so you can disable the NAT and still have some security. At the moment NAT is enabled and the firewall is disabled.

<b><font color=blue>~ BIOS SETTINGS: Fast, Hot, Unstable...That ought to work. ~</font color=blue></b> :wink:

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jlanka   08-09-2002 at 12:45:46 PM
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I read the latest developments over on the other site. Crossover sounds like a good idea. Question: Have you tried pinging the 98 box from the XP, instead of the router?

<i>It's always the one thing you never suspected.</i>

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camieabz   08-09-2002 at 12:57:01 PM
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Nope. At the moment I just have the one monitor, k/b & mouse, so it's a power down, swap cables, power up deal.

I'm looking to get myself a KVM switch soon though.

<b><font color=blue>~ Gotta question? Tried searching the boards first? Good! Ask away! ~<font color=blue></b> :wink:

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jlanka   08-09-2002 at 01:28:15 PM
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you can boot up the 98 box, then yank out the KB, mouse and monitor, then boox the XP box. That should work for a test ping.

<i>It's always the one thing you never suspected.</i>

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camieabz   08-12-2002 at 09:43:51 PM
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UPDATE!!! UPDATE!!! UPDATE!!!

I decided to try loading W98SE onto the system and if I got my ping, to try and get a W2K upgrade to install onto it.

Couldn't get the W98SE install to ping either. Damn. What's more the NIC was causing sluggish behaviour on startup, and on shutdowns & restarts, I had to use the reset button.

Decided the NIC <b>must</b> be dodgy, and it should be replaced. Just for fun, I tried moving it from PCI slot 5 to PCI slot 4, as slot 4 seems to have less (none in fact) BIOS allocated resources. Slot 5 has connections with the HPT370 controller etc. Back to the IRQ stuff here.

Well anyway, it worked!!! Slot 4 it remains and I have W98SE & W2K running fine.

Many thanks to all for your help in trouble shooting this one. I did have a hunch on the IRQs, but having no real experience with W2K's handling of shared resources, I was operating a bit in the dark.

Again thx. [extremely happy, smiley face]

<b><font color=blue>~ Gotta question? Tried searching the boards first? Good! Ask away! ~<font color=blue></b> :wink:

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jlanka   08-13-2002 at 12:33:03 PM
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Excellent news! Yeah, even though ACPI is supposed to work, it still sort of depends on which slot which card goes into. Glad you found the problem. I would have never thought of that.

<i>It's always the one thing you never suspected.</i>

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