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Report: AMD Phenom II X6 CPUs in Short Supply

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June 22, 2010 11:26:19 AM

Problems with producing these or underestimate demand?
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June 22, 2010 11:29:25 AM

Better get one now before they run out!! I guess the demand is better than expected which isn't too surprising considering the excellent value offered - six cores for under $200!

Good thing I beat the shortage. I ordered mine from Newegg last week and received it 2 days later.
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June 22, 2010 11:31:36 AM

This news was already posted on some other site.But I'm wondering whether AMD will increase prices.
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June 22, 2010 12:10:35 PM

6 core is good but. I still believe the opteron 12 core 2 way server is the best solution after all. 24 core is hot. all I got to say that is intel is little over price.
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June 22, 2010 12:19:49 PM

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Problems with producing these or underestimate demand?


If they had problems producing these, I wouldn't think it would have any affect on the supply schedule for the new quad core part. Given AMD's current ability to produce quad core parts, it is very likely that defective Hexacore parts would have at least four functional cores and could then be sold as quad core.

However, if they underestimated demand, reallocating resources to produce more hexacore parts could cause a delay in the release of quad core parts. This seems to be the more likely scenario.

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... I'm wondering whether AMD will increase prices.


Unlike with the HD5850, AMD's hexacore processors aren't in the position of be clearly superior to the competition while being priced less than the competition (~$350 for GTX285 vs ~$260 MSRP for HD5850 before price increase). Keep in mind that AMD did not raise the MSRP for the HD5870 (still at ~$380), board manufactures raise those prices themselves. That said, I believe it is more likely that AMD will leave the MSRP for their hexacore processors alone. However, if demand is outstripping supply enough that AMD can raise the MSRP and still have shortages for the foreseeable future (unlikely), then they could and should do so.
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June 22, 2010 12:20:42 PM

very ture that I got the pair of opteron 6168 magny core from newegg for $1500 and dual G34 motherboard about $450. everything with pw and case include plus 16G or ddr3 lessthan $3000. which I got a powerful 24 core workstation. 3d render easly kick ass out of intel 8 core socket 1136 serials.
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June 22, 2010 12:39:54 PM

Bah, PC games can't properly use 2 or 4 cores yet.
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June 22, 2010 12:52:39 PM

regulasBah, PC games can't properly use 2 or 4 cores yet.

My simulations certainly can. Gaming isn't everything, plus I don't think these are targeted at gamers, but I could be wrong.
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June 22, 2010 1:03:19 PM

regulasBah, PC games can't properly use 2 or 4 cores yet.

News flash....some people do more with their PC than play games.
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June 22, 2010 1:05:23 PM

Its good to see that AMD is selling whatever they produce. Its a shame that they cant keep up with the demand.
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June 22, 2010 1:06:47 PM

You must mean look at porn. More threads means you can run Firefox, Chrome AND Explorer and have thrice the pRon!
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June 22, 2010 1:16:41 PM

spks19You must mean look at porn. More threads means you can run Firefox, Chrome AND Explorer and have thrice the pRon!

you forgot AMD ATI's other assistant for that: Eyefinity! that's thrice the pRon!!
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June 22, 2010 1:34:58 PM

" regulas : Bah, PC games can't properly use 2 or 4 cores yet. "

IDK what you've been doing to not have a clue about games in the last 2+ years now there is multi core/thread support in MANY games nowadays. Crysis & Unreal engine based games support it, Grand Theft Auto 4 is multi core supported & ect ...

This also doesn't take into the fact that MOST gamers out there ARE multi taskers like myself.

You tell me how well I'd be able to run 2 im's 2-4 browser windows, a ventrilo voice chat client, Windows Media player 12 AND a game that utilizes more then 2 cores at once on a " dual core cpu " *LOL*
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June 22, 2010 2:04:03 PM

I almost bought one a couple of weeks back at a local retailer. I was a little undecided whether I really wanted one or not, and I asked the guy if he had plenty in case I came back the next day. He said yes, they had a bunch in stock, no worries. So I don't know. Maybe this is simply a ploy to trigger a rush to buy what is really a surplus of parts?
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June 22, 2010 2:17:26 PM

xbeateryou forgot AMD ATI's other assistant for that: Eyefinity! that's thrice the pRon!!

Honestly, the first thing I did when I got Eyefinity setup was put 4 videos on each screen (12 total), just to see what it'd be like. It was epic.
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June 22, 2010 2:49:59 PM

regulasBah, PC games can't properly use 2 or 4 cores yet.

hahaha. Still stuck in 2006 are you? Most current games use up to 3 cores, with some being able to use more.
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June 22, 2010 2:51:39 PM

jitpublisherI almost bought one a couple of weeks back at a local retailer. I was a little undecided whether I really wanted one or not, and I asked the guy if he had plenty in case I came back the next day. He said yes, they had a bunch in stock, no worries. So I don't know. Maybe this is simply a ploy to trigger a rush to buy what is really a surplus of parts?


Prolly more likely this hasn't retail channel yet but is being felt by manufacturers and system builders.
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June 22, 2010 3:12:06 PM

Short Supply is good, especially in these "tough" times.
Hell, I'm glad i got it the day it came out. I will never switch back to Intel as long as they keep improving and using the same socket it's the cheapest performance boost out there!

Keep'em coming AMD!!!

P.S. the 6 core bad boy rulez for video compression!
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June 22, 2010 3:13:22 PM


it's been a while i couldn't spot a Phenom II X4 905e (and reasonably priced) in any computer store...
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June 22, 2010 3:17:15 PM

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Bah, PC games can't properly use 2 or 4 cores yet.


Dragon Age Origins uses all 8 threads on my i7 920 according to the Win7 desktop gadget. Crysis also uses 4 as already stated and Dirt 2.
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June 22, 2010 3:25:01 PM

Not to mention I forgot to add, Win 7 itself ALSO supports multiple cores.
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June 22, 2010 3:29:48 PM

Newegg was out of stock of the 1055T for a while (was looking for them). Not sure if they're still out now as I haven't checked again this week, but they were definitely gone much of last week.
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June 22, 2010 4:04:04 PM

Well, AMD representatives have said that they underestimated demand of their hexa-core chips and it ain't a production problem. I read about this on softpedia news.
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June 22, 2010 5:25:45 PM

regulasBah, PC games can't properly use 2 or 4 cores yet.


Bah, some users can only do one task at a time, can't properly know how to use more than one window, one task.
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June 22, 2010 5:34:35 PM

It's great that if this report is true that AMD is finally having trouble keeping up with demand. For too long AMD has been sucking air to stay alive while Intel seemingly sells anything it wants, no matter the price or even the performance..or lack. Unlike Intel, AMD only really has a few FAB's located in Germany to make cpu's with the NY plant still in the works. When NY plant comes online any supply problem will go the way of the Doo Doo birdy i'd think.
But it's also great for another reason. It shows that while the hexacore is no real match for the intel product, they understand that price does sell, and they got their numbers right. That's the real story here if true!
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June 22, 2010 5:38:11 PM

regulasBah, PC games can't properly use 2 or 4 cores yet.


most recent games are mult-threaded now
i don't see many games now that can only make use up to two cores
plus its nice to multi-task
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June 22, 2010 5:41:04 PM

There were hundreds of them at my local MicroCenter. I just picked one up 2 days ago.

Just the 1055t though, the 1090t wasn't available (I guess sold out?)
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June 22, 2010 6:32:04 PM

Finally, AMD is getting money again. Perhaps that means they're next processor may compete strongly with Intel?
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June 22, 2010 7:32:52 PM

1090t(329.99 CAD) is on back order here in canada at canadacomputers.com

while 1055t(219.99 CAD) has more availability.

However at tigerdirect.ca 1090t(309.97 CAD) and 1055t(209.97 CAD) is still in stock(for now).

And in the US 1090t(299.99 USD) and 1055t(199.99 USD) is available at tigerdirect.com(for now).

I'm guessing AMD underestimated the selling potential of these 2 CPUs especially the 1090t.
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June 22, 2010 7:45:41 PM

This is great for AMD. Having demand higher than your supply means your making as much money as you possibly can. Though this is also a dual edged blade, because some people might just buy an intel chip instead.
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June 22, 2010 8:30:03 PM

What they really need is to start selling bulldozer chips
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June 22, 2010 8:58:10 PM

@BulkZerker
Thats True. Its good to sell every you produce but if you cant fill the next order, it will most likely to to INTEL.

Someone said AMD has a few fabs in germany and soon NY that will help there suppy issues? I think these are not solely owned by AMD. Abu Dhabi has a 70% ownership Globalfoundries. So they dont neccessarily cater to AMD since they are a foundry. Most likely AMD will have to work with Mult Foundries to get there product made. This is the draw back for there FAB Lite concept... you dont really own a FAB. This is another advantage INTEL has!
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June 22, 2010 9:10:17 PM

Um, isn't silicon the most abundant, most common mettaloid on Earth? How is it running out?
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June 22, 2010 9:55:10 PM

so, the question is when (according to Amdahl's Law) does adding cores become a negligible increase and new architectures with higher clocks and more efficient processing start coming out?
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June 22, 2010 10:05:00 PM

No problems sourcing the 1055t here from NZ, can't say the same for the 1090t though.
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June 22, 2010 11:13:13 PM

feeddagoatProblems with producing these or underestimate demand?

Demand for sure....since Intel's 6 core is $1,000.
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June 22, 2010 11:41:31 PM

well that's what happens when you put so many cores in each cpu, you run out of cores faster! :D 
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June 23, 2010 12:25:27 AM

terrybearNot to mention I forgot to add, Win 7 itself ALSO supports multiple cores.

DirectX 11 itself is also multithreaded.
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June 23, 2010 1:12:51 AM

I wish I had this problem now looking for the 6 core chip. Because of the news last month of the 6 core AMD chip I have been somewhat regretting getting the i7 930, although I still dont have my motherboard (Gigabyte UD3) yet due to unavailability, I now wish I bought the thubian based 6 core processor or at least tried to look for it.
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June 23, 2010 2:58:54 AM

There doesn't seem to be a PII X6 shortage here in Manila, But there is however a shortage on PII X4 925, 945 & 955 parts here.
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June 23, 2010 9:03:54 AM

I am still satisfied with my quad-core. Maybe when Half-life and Portal 2 come out!!
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June 24, 2010 10:54:04 AM

I can't see why they are in short supply.
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June 24, 2010 2:21:13 PM

dEAne said:
I can't see why they are in short supply.


Try taking off the ultra dark glasses...
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