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Mobo and chipset for pro photographer ?

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February 8, 2005 9:47:29 AM

I have built two machines, one with an athlon 2700/gigabyte ga400 ?, the other a 3.0 p4 with an intel 875 pbz and 2 gigs ram on both and a raid 0 w/raptors on the intel. I'm seeing all the new mobos and chips coming out and I'm getting itchy. The intel board I have is not really an overclocker.

As far as digital photo work (pshop, multiple layers,raw conversions) etc. what would be a good kick ass combination for me ? I see these new intels coming out have dual capability in one chip ?

I need some guidance from an experienced person, if I get an overclockable board am I headed for instability ? What about current cache sizes on chips. I just got a sager laptop w/3.2 prescott because of the larger cache...

I'm trying to decide whether or not to upgrade my current unit or build a new one. Also I've got 2gig ddr400 ram on this 875pbz

Thanks, Bruce
a b V Motherboard
February 8, 2005 9:07:13 PM

You got a laptop with a Prescott? In that case, I can't make a good recommendation for you, because you lack even the most basic judgement when it comes to computer hardware. Sorry.

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February 9, 2005 10:25:19 AM

So please elaborate on why it was a bad choice ?
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February 9, 2005 12:21:16 PM

Not to steal Crash's thunder but...
Prescotts have huge power requirements and high heat issues. You'll find that you have very short battery life and a hot laptop. A little research before getting the laptop would have identified the Prescott issue.

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February 9, 2005 4:36:35 PM

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You got a laptop with a Prescott? In that case, I can't make a good recommendation for you, because you lack even the most basic judgement when it comes to computer hardware. Sorry.

It seems like this is exactly the type of person that could use your expertise.

He made a bad decision. To prevent him from making future bad decisions someone needs to give him guidance/advice so he has the ability to make better decisions in the future.
February 9, 2005 5:56:58 PM

your thinking wayyyyy too much, just get somthing simple if your just going to do photoshop stuff.

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a b V Motherboard
February 9, 2005 6:47:54 PM

He already has a P4 3.0, he's not going to get a significantly faster CPU, and overclocking would help a bit but not enough to make the board change worthwhile. If I had that combination of components:
1.) The Prescott is probably a desktop version
2.) The board is probably the Prescott compatable version
3.) From what he said, he probably has a Northwood 3.0

I'd verify that and swap processors, and put a Zalman CNPS7000 or 7700 in his desktop after the swap to keep that hunk of heat relatively cool. That swap could really help the laptop performance by reducing its need for thermal throttling and extending battery life.

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February 9, 2005 7:34:28 PM

Well heres the scoop. I may not have been clear. My desktop w/3.0 is the one I was trying see if it could be upgraded with any signifigance, otherwise I'll leave it be.

I just mentioned the sager 4791 w/prescott as a side bar. This laptop will only be used plugged into ac, it is not a primary pc but to be used for location shooting, although its considered a desktop replacement, and running dvd slideshows for sales presentations. It will get some pshop use running actions and scripts and handling 47 meg file conversions on site..

So your idea to swap chips the 3.2 prescott to my desktop. I like that idea, I'm using a thermal take fan 5000 rpm, I'll assume a Zalman is a cooler...

see that ? I learned something....
a b V Motherboard
February 9, 2005 7:54:59 PM

The main reason I suggested the swap was due to thermal management: The Prescott is likely to run much of the time in a crippled state in the laptop, because when it gets hot it will clock itself down, and a laptop case doesn't provide ideal cooling. The laptop would likely perform better with the Northwood due to it's lower heat output, and the Prescott would likely perform better in the Desktop because you'd be able to use a large cooler.

But all that assumes you have a desktop CPU in the laptop (the most common P4 laptop configuration), and that your Intel motherboard is a new enough revision to support Prescott CPU's (most are).

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February 11, 2005 11:21:40 AM

And I think its a damned good idea..

I'm now cosidering building a brand new machine a notch above my current destop, again I'm a digital photographer...

What components would you recommend, dual, non dual, I'd want 4 gigs of ram, which brand chip, stick with intel ?
opterons, xeons

Thanks for your advice
February 11, 2005 11:53:45 AM

If you want 4 gigs of RAM I'd go with an Athelon FX 55. At least a cpu with 64 bit adressing anyway. Most socket 939 boards of good brands support 4096 megs of ram.

You can of course also get a multi cpu system (think photoshop is multi threaded), 2 opterons 244 cost about the same as the FX-55. Problem of multi cpu systems is that you need an expensive mobo, expensive casing and expensive cooling.
February 12, 2005 9:45:31 AM

Well, I have a thermaltake case full tower now, which I would install the mobo/chips. Dual would be what I'd want to do.

Why opterons over xeons ? or amd over intel and what else hardware wise can you recommend ?

One of my raw conversion programs is dual chip aware (besides pshop) and this is a good reason for a dual system
February 12, 2005 10:21:34 AM

Opterons seem to be more popular than Xeons at the moment. People who buy hardware like dual systems normally choose performance instead of brand. Opteron workstations are very fast, most of the time a bit cheaper than an Intel solution and with Intel you would almost need an airconditioning with it to keep it cool (Xeons are very hot chips).

That's about all I know about dual core systems, the popularity of Opterons with professionals being my main argument.
February 12, 2005 1:39:48 PM

Thanks ....
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