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Need advice on my choice of motheboard/cpu/video..

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May 30, 2005 3:25:16 AM

I no longer need my laptop for school any more, and I am looking to build me a nice PC for around $1,500. It will mostly be used to browse the web and game (Doom3, Far Cry, Unreal, Half Life 2, etc). Also, I know nothing about overclocking so please let me know if should with the components that I have chosen. I will surely read up on it if I need to. Anyways, here are my choices so far...

Motherboard:
DFI LANPARTY UT nF4 Ultra-D Socket 939 NVIDIA nForce4 Ultra ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E1681...

CPU:
AMD Athlon 64 3200+ Winchester Integrated into Chip FSB 512KB L2 Cache Socket 939 Processor - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1681...

Video Card:
ATI 100-435500 Radeon X800XL 256MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI-Express x16 Video Card - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E1681...

Memory:
CORSAIR ValueSelect 1GB (2 x 512MB) 184-Pin DDR SDRAM Unbuffered DDR 400 (PC 3200) Dual Channel Kit System Memory - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1682...

Hard Drive:
Seagate Barracuda 7200.7 ST3200822AS 200GB 7200 RPM 8MB Cache Serial ATA150 Hard Drive - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1682...

DVD/Burner:
Not sure? Any suggestions? I don't burn DVDs but I guess I would like to have the option if it doesn't cost too much. I mainly burn music CDs, so the faster it burns them, the better...

Case/Fans/Other:
No idea...I just know I want a silver sleek style. No flashly lights or anything. Something that would match the newer LCD monitors and newer TVs.

LCD Monitor:
HYUNDAI L90D+ Silver 19" 8ms LCD Monitor 300 cd/m2 700:1 Built in Speakers 0.294mm Pixel Pitch - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1682...


What are your thoughts? Would this PC be a good platform for a while? Would it be easily updated in the future? Would you change something on this? Perhaps the motherboard? The video card? Would something be better for the money? Is the monitor chosen good for gaming? Any other information, please let me know. Ask any questions if I didn't answer the already. Thanks in advance.

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May 30, 2005 1:55:38 PM

From my own research and from other people's thoughts/opinions .. here goes:

mobo - ok
cpu - you might look at one that has the Venice/San Diego as people seem to like those better
video- ok
ram - ok
hdd - ok
dvd - just pick one at newegg that gets good reviews like the NEC, Plexor etc... there's several out there that appear to be good.

CASE - so many to choose from. I like the Antec SuperLanboy (light weight, I have 3 or 4 of them... nice boxes). The Antec Sonata gets good reviews, the Antec P160 seems good... Then there's Thermaltake, Lian-Li etc...

PSU - pick a good brand power supply... get 430/480+

LCD - don't know.


BTW, how much did all this tally up in $$s ??

hth some.
May 30, 2005 2:34:48 PM

For the CPU get a Venice core a San Diego would be much better because of the bigger cache but also more expensive.

For the DVD burner I second NEC I 've bought 3 and they've worked very good, and they're really cheap (around $50)

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May 30, 2005 6:38:31 PM

Alright, I will look into those chips... Anybody else have any thoughts? I am going to order all this tonight before it goes off sale. So more opinions would be nice...

The total price of all that minus the burner and case was right at $1100.

Thanks
May 30, 2005 9:16:50 PM

The only thing I can find on the San Diego chip is:

AMD Athlon 64 3700+ San Diego Integrated into Chip FSB 1MB L2 Cache Socket 939 Processor - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1681...

It cost about $150 more.. would that be worth the extra money?

And about the 3200+ Venice vs. Winchester.. why do so many more people buy the Winchester? Why does the CPU guide on this board suggest the winchester? What is the difference?
May 30, 2005 9:42:37 PM

Athlon 64 winchester vs venice.- Winchester has been sold more because it has been longer in the market. Venice is the next revision of that CPU. The more noticeable upgrades are the support of SSE3 instructions and lower voltage. In the 3000+ the difference in newegg is $5 so I'd say to go with the Venice.

The San Diego has double the L2 cache of the Venice or winchester. and the 3700+ has a bigger clock speed than the 3000+ (400MHz) I don't think that those differences justify the big increase in price, but decide that yourself.
The best option if you don't wanna pay a lot is to buy a 3000+ or 3200+ Venice and overclock it. If you want to overclock it there are a lot of guys here that can tell you how.
I have the 3000+ Winchester (because when I bought it the
Venice core wasn't available at newegg) and I'm very happy with it. I'm not overclocking my CPU but that's something I want to do in the future.

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May 30, 2005 9:45:45 PM

That's a micro ATX case if you go that way you'll need a micro ATX motherboard, and there aren't too many options.

Nothing is as easy as it looks
May 30, 2005 9:56:33 PM

I don't want to get into overclocking. I want a very stable pc. Which would be best in that situation? I really don't want to spend much over $200 on the cpu.

I was just wondering if they made a case similar to that one, I saw it was for a mini. I think I found one, but it has a small power supply (350w) but I think I will get it and order the:

THERMALTAKE Silent Purepower W0014RU ATX 480W Power Supply 100 - 240V - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1681...
May 30, 2005 10:17:50 PM

If you buy a micro ATX case just make sure that you buy a micro ATX motherboard and that the power supply is not proprietary to the case. It would be bad if you buy the PSU just to find out that it doesn't fit your case due to a lack of space or an irregular shape.

Nothing is as easy as it looks
May 30, 2005 10:22:15 PM

Any Athlon 64 is a good buy just get a Socket 939 CPU because it can later be upgraded to a double core CPU without changing the motherboard.

For stability on a system you have to look at everything, motherboard, CPU, RAM. I had an ASUS mobo that was very picky with the RAM, it didn't work with every stick of RAM even if it was good quality RAM.

Nothing is as easy as it looks
May 30, 2005 10:39:51 PM

Do they make a San Diego 3200+? Or just the 3700+?
May 30, 2005 10:47:36 PM

I don't know, I've only seen the 3700+

Nothing is as easy as it looks
May 31, 2005 8:12:35 AM

No San Diego 3200.
For optical drives, liteon and LG are bothe good, and cheap.
June 1, 2005 1:00:00 AM

I got it ordered last night. They didn't have the motherboard I was wanting at first, but I found a better one for a little more.

Let me know what you guys think.. The only thing that is not for me is the 250gb ide hard drive, that is for my brother.


Qty. Product Description Total Price
Item(s) shipped from CA FedEx Tracking Number:
1 APEX SQ-327 Black/Silver Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case 350W Power Supply - Retail
Item #: N82E16811154046 $45.00
1 HYUNDAI L90D+ Silver 19" 8ms LCD Monitor - Retail
Item #: N82E16824179014 $349.99
1 MSI K8N Neo4 Platinum SLI Socket 939 NVIDIA nForce4 SLI ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail
Item #: N82E16813130487 $175.00
1 THERMALTAKE Silent Purepower W0014RU ATX 480W Power Supply - Retail
Item #: N82E16817153007 $56.00
1 CORSAIR ValueSelect 1GB (2 x 512MB) 184-Pin DDR SDRAM DDR 400 (PC 3200) Unbuffered Dual Channel Kit System Memory Model VS1GBKIT400 - Retail
Item #: N82E16820145440 $77.00
1 Seagate Barracuda 7200.8 ST3250823A 250GB 7200 RPM IDE Ultra ATA100 Hard Drive - OEM
Item #: N82E16822148062 $120.00
1 Seagate Barracuda 7200.8 ST3200826AS 200GB 7200 RPM Serial ATA150 Hard Drive - OEM
Item #: N82E16822148066 $114.00
1 NEC Black IDE DVD Burner Model ND-3520A - OEM
Item #: N82E16827152035 $49.00
Item(s) shipped from NJ FedEx Tracking Number:
1 ATI 100-435500 Radeon X800XL 256MB GDDR3 PCI-Express x16 Video Card - OEM
Item #: N82E16814102509 $295.00
1 AMD Athlon 64 3200+ Venice Integrated into Chip FSB Socket 939 Processor Model ADA3200BPBOX - Retail
Item #: N82E16819103535 $203.00
1 Logitech Cordless Desktop LX700 967418-0403 Black PS/2 Wireless Type Standard Keyboard Mouse Included - Retail
Item #: N82E16823126159 $63.00
Subtotal: $1,546.99
What's this? Tax: $0.00
Shipping: $43.89
Rush Order Fee: $2.99
Printer-friendly Version Total: $1,593.87

As you can see I was right around my budget area. I think I did pretty good on this PC. Should be a nice platform to game on. Let me know your thoughts.
June 1, 2005 1:08:08 AM

Too bad about the mobo. Msi dont make that reliable a product. If you can change to an asus, abit, epox or different DFI board, I would recommend it.
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June 1, 2005 3:47:36 AM

I won't be overclocking anything... if that is what you are refering the reliable part...

http://www.tomshardware.com/motherboard/20050513/index....

The conclusion...

"At the end of day, two motherboards receive our recommendation: both the Abit Fatal1ty AN8 and MSI K8N Neo4 Platinum Edition offer well-appointed and flexible boards based on top-grade components. These units shine above all through their range of functions and overclocking abilities - the wealth of experience of both manufacturers in the enthusiast market is obvious."