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scrapser   07-10-2005 at 12:56:20 AM

I'm getting confused. I ordered OCX PC4000vx Gold Dual Channel (2x512) and the DFI board in the subject title. I was just at the DFI website looking at the MB manual and they don't state they support PC4000 memory at all. But in my research and asking questions here, what I'm hearing is how great this memory is and how it can be used on the DFI board. Can someone fill in the blanks?

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Rugger   07-10-2005 at 03:10:40 AM
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The Gold VX is great OC RAM and is compatible with that board. The PC4000 is still PC3200 compatible.

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scrapser   07-10-2005 at 03:21:36 AM
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So does that mean I don't necessarily have to increase the voltage (as in only if I wanted to optimize it)? Can I use the memory with the default settings per the BIOS? I've been reading lots of posts at DFI-Street.com and it gets pretty confusing. I don't want to run the board hot and shorten its lifespan. I haven't received my parts from NewEgg yet so if necessary, I will send it back and get PC3200 Gold instead.

Thanks!

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Rugger   07-10-2005 at 03:39:25 AM
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I fyou want to run at stock speeds then you don't need this high of quality of RAM. You can get something for a lot less money that will perform the functions that you need. One of the major reasons that I would get the DFI over the Epox ultra board is the extra Vdimm and the great package that comes with the board. Don't get me wrong - they're great parts, but why did you get this RAM/mobo if you didn't want to OC?

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scrapser   07-10-2005 at 04:01:02 AM
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The reviews at Tom's give it high marks. People in other posts also say good things about it. I was originally thinking of the Asus A8V Deluxe but changed my mind with all the praise.

I think what's happening here is everyone talks about hardware strictly from the perspective of overclocking. I just want to build a fast, stable computer with some of the latest or nearly latest offerings. I don't know where to go to talk about simply building a PC and what parts are compatible and reliable without talking about overclocking.

So should I go ahead and order the PC3200 instead? Buy the Asus board? I don't mind having a little overkill built in, so if this board is still fine please let me know that also.

Thanks for your time!

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Crashman   07-10-2005 at 10:39:59 AM
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OMG, silly questions!

PC4000 IS PC3200. PC4000 is PC3200 that's been tested and verified to run at higher than standard speeds. In order to achieve those higher speeds, you have to overclock. And until you do overclock, your PC4000 will operate as PC3200.

You don't need added voltage to run your RAM at PC3200 speed, just use the SPD values (the values your board detects). When you DO overclock, you WILL want to raise the RAM voltage.

Keep your board AND your RAM, it's a great combination and better than the Asus board, better than PC3200, better better better, but you're asking silly questions so how many times do you need me to repeate myself?

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scrapser   07-10-2005 at 11:22:56 AM
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Thanks for passing on the information. I do appreciate it. As to my questions...there's no such thing as a stupid (silly) question. You could at least consider that maybe I'm just starting out here and don't know much (and don't have a problem admitting it). I'm asking for people's help, not their criticism. We all have to start someplace.

But again, I do appreciate your spelling it out for me about the board and ram.

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Crashman   07-10-2005 at 11:39:20 AM
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What makes it silly is that the information is freely available all over the web, including Tom's Hardware Guide, and should have been gleened before making the purchase.

I could go to an automotive forum and say "I just purchased a Mustang Cobra, do you think I should have gotten a standard Mustang instead?" Or, I could do the research first, negating my silly question.

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scrapser   07-10-2005 at 01:28:45 PM
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Fair enough. But I did go online and read about the DFI board and OCZ ram. I saw in Tom's articles that they had a problem while testing the Ultra-D but that it was corrected once they tested the SLI version. Sharky's Extreme suggests it for their June Extreme PC guide but say nothing about using it straight out of the box. They just say it's great. After ordering the hardware, I went to the DFI site to read the manual and get started familiarizing myself with the board while waiting for delivery and it was there that I read they don't support using PC4000 ram or recommend pushing the volts to 3.6. I started asking questions on the boards. I received a few posts on other threads here...talking about overclocking. One guy talks about using TCCD over the VX but is very cryptic in how he talks about it. I went to DFI-Street.com and got overwhelmed with what everyone was posting there about overclocking, which is all very new to me and not the information I'm looking for. I just wanted the information you gave me which I'm grateful for.

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Crashman   07-10-2005 at 09:40:38 PM
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OK. Lots of people come in here asking about PC4000 and why the documentation doesn't list it. That goes for Asus boards as well. That's because PC4000 isn't a JEDEC specification. JEDEC is the organization that standardizes RAM naming, speeds, voltages, etc.

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Crashman   07-11-2005 at 02:55:25 AM
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I think AMD will move to DDR2 with their next family of CPU's. After all, DDR2 has some advantages over DDR, which allow it to scale higher.

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