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What's Wrong With My Tech Specification?

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Anonymous
January 6, 2011 6:23:22 PM

Hello!
sorry about my bad english.
before a few months, I bought a new computer:

Windows 7 ultimate 32 bit

Intel I5 760
Ati 5770 1GB (Gigabyte)
Msi P55A-G55
4 GB ram ddr3

Hard drive - WD 500GB Sata 2
Case - NZXT Lexa S (4 big fans)




Since I bought the computer, games running pretty slow,
I think that all the OS slow..

I am cleaning and run the defragment and the other os tools,
removing: temp, %temp%, prefetch folders, msconfig.
I scanned with different anti viruses, I also without anti virus now..

it's from the first day thet I bought the computer,
even with slow settings the games running slow.

in youtube I have seen games are running in 60 fps with specs like my.


How do I know exactly which component slowing down my computer?
January 7, 2011 12:59:08 AM

Well your 5770 is a mid-range card with a 128bit. Just set your game atleast medium setting to get a good frame rates on games and no anti-aliasing.
January 7, 2011 6:15:07 AM

What resolution are you playing at? And what power supply do you have?
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Anonymous
January 7, 2011 8:26:32 AM

my monitor is 1080, but I am plaing on low resolution.

power supply is hec 550w.

I also tried to enable and unable GPU and CPU overclocking.

installing win7 64 bit and upgrade the memory to 6 ram will solve this?

thank you all!!
January 7, 2011 8:37:23 AM

The card is not for Full HD... that is my opinion...
January 7, 2011 8:40:52 AM

The Black Alchemist said:
The card is not for Full HD... that is my opinion...


He says that he's not actually playing at 1080, if you read his previous post.
January 7, 2011 8:45:38 AM

Anonymous said:
my monitor is 1080, but I am plaing on low resolution.

power supply is hec 550w.

I also tried to enable and unable GPU and CPU overclocking.

installing win7 64 bit and upgrade the memory to 6 ram will solve this?

thank you all!!


Try playing at the proper resolution. Low resolution means the CPU is doing most of the work, not the GPU. This is not ideal for most newer games.

Also, can you verify that your CPU and GPU go up to their full clock speed while gaming? Use system monitor tools like CPU-Z and GPU-Z to check. If it appears that they remain at idle instead of going to full speed, check your Windows power settings to make sure that it is set to the "Balanced" profile and not "Power Saver".
January 7, 2011 8:45:51 AM

what are your temps cpu and gpu, my first thought is thermal throttling of the cpu due to a poor pushpin HSF installation.
January 7, 2011 8:47:25 AM

13thmonkey said:
what are your temps cpu and gpu, my first thought is thermal throttling of the cpu due to a poor pushpin HSF installation.


Agreed, also possible. Use CPUID HWMonitor, it's a very useful tool to check your system temperatures.
January 7, 2011 8:59:17 AM

good tool am liking that a lot
January 7, 2011 12:00:21 PM

Temps look perfectly normal. And no, I don't think it's a RAM problem. 4GB should be enough for just about any modern game.

Did you check CPU and GPU clock speeds like I suggested?
Anonymous
January 7, 2011 12:14:17 PM

yes I checked,
I tried Without OC, With high OC, low OC, med OC, OC just for CPU, OC just for GPU...

There have a software to check what slowing down my pc?
like 3D mark, but saying what the problem?
January 7, 2011 12:28:27 PM

nothing I know of software wise.

Did you install the chipset drivers etc., can you use CPU-Z and GPU-Z and post images of all tabs. That'll tell us a lot.
January 7, 2011 1:08:03 PM

there appears to be nothing wrong withany of that, I was thinking perhaps PCI-e defaulting to x1 but there's no news there that helps me. I'll have to think about it.

Are there any other specific symptoms that you can help us with?
January 7, 2011 1:41:06 PM
Anonymous
January 7, 2011 1:43:36 PM

I think that windows (7) is pretty slow than the expected.

3D mark 11 show me very very low fps:
full settings: 5 fps
low settings: 20 fps

call of duty black ops warned me about shader. I think crysis warned me too.

all my driver are installed and they are updated.
January 7, 2011 1:49:46 PM

Have you checked the Power settings like I suggested? Check what happens to CPU and GPU clocks when you put the system under load.
January 7, 2011 2:01:29 PM

are the secondary power leads plugged into the GPU and the mobo? Just a thought?
Anonymous
January 7, 2011 2:32:40 PM

Herr_Koos said:
Have you checked the Power settings like I suggested? Check what happens to CPU and GPU clocks when you put the system under load.


they on balance profile


13thmonkey said:
are the secondary power leads plugged into the GPU and the mobo? Just a thought?


how can I check it?
January 7, 2011 2:37:35 PM

Put it on full power,balanced keeps the cpu at a lower clock speed by lowering the cpu multiplier.

For the power leads,if your motherboard is like mine,there will be a 6 pin plug where you have to connect a six pin connector from the psu and your gpu will have 1 or 2 six pin connectors on the side or top depending on the design of your 5770.
January 7, 2011 2:41:07 PM

The Balanced profile will allow the CPU to go up to full speed if required. Power Saving will keep it permanently clocked down.
Anonymous
January 7, 2011 2:53:21 PM

It was on high perfomance, I forgot for second what the transolation of balance..

I am still don't understend what I am looking for..
here is a good picture of my motherboard:
http://www.msi.com/product/mb/P55A-G55.html
Anonymous
January 7, 2011 3:02:24 PM

there is cables from the power suply to motherboard and cables from the power suply to GPU.

you ment that the GPU connected to the power suply through the motheboard??
January 7, 2011 3:10:17 PM

if you have cables from the psu to the gpu and other cables from the psu to the mobo then you are probably ok. Can you send pictures of inside of case.

I don't know about the others but this has got me stumped.
January 7, 2011 3:30:16 PM

I still want to see graphs of CPU/GPU when under load...
January 7, 2011 3:40:10 PM

I suggest you try with a different psu too.550W may be more than enough for your pc but that doesn't mean that the psu can't be the issue.It may be faulty.
Anonymous
January 7, 2011 4:54:12 PM

13thmonkey said:
if you have cables from the psu to the gpu and other cables from the psu to the mobo then you are probably ok. Can you send pictures of inside of case.

I don't know about the others but this has got me stumped.


here:
http://img577.imageshack.us/img577/4586/62532941e.jpg
http://img690.imageshack.us/img690/8268/48709603.jpg
http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/44/90294265.jpg
http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/8019/69124978.jpg
http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/9839/54376064.jpg
http://img841.imageshack.us/img841/3326/72026790.jpg
http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/3953/99368962.jpg
http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/236/46416909.jpg
http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/60/77502705.jpg



Herr_Koos said:
I still want to see graphs of CPU/GPU when under load...

I will play 5~10 minutes and bring photoes.
January 7, 2011 6:08:51 PM

in the first photo the gree back and blue wires appear to be cut or are they bent at 90degrees, please confirm that they are not in fact broken. Later photos hint they might be ok.

there is not a second power connector on the gpu is there?
Anonymous
January 8, 2011 5:06:23 AM

13thmonkey said:
in the first photo the gree back and blue wires appear to be cut or are they bent at 90degrees, please confirm that they are not in fact broken. Later photos hint they might be ok.

there is not a second power connector on the gpu is there?


they are conected, and there is not a second power connector..

Herr_Koos said:
I still want to see graphs of CPU/GPU when under load...


here:

GPU-Z:
http://gpuz.techpowerup.com/11/01/08/a2y.png
http://gpuz.techpowerup.com/11/01/08/2bk.png

CPU-Z:
http://img836.imageshack.us/img836/994/25122010093859.j...
January 8, 2011 6:10:42 AM

GPU load according to that screenshot is just 1%. The clock speeds are still at idle.
January 8, 2011 8:17:52 AM

errm you have the monitor cable plugged into the graphics card and not into the motherboard port yes?

At that stage i'd buy a second hdd (a small one) reinstall windows and see what happens, REMOVE the old hdd whilst installing windows.

Herr_Koos is it possible that onboard graphics are being used through the discrete GPU, i.e. just using the discrete as a signal path. not familar with newer platforms and amdati chips.

OP: Stick with us, we are trying to help, you are being very helpful with the information you are providing. I'm a little concerned that update in background box was not ticked on gpu-z could you run it again with that ticked please. There's a slight uptick at the end of the graph that could be the chip clocking down after the game has finished.
January 8, 2011 8:24:48 AM

My knowledge on hybrid AMD setups is a bit lacking, to be honest. But, the fact that the 5770 is plugged in should prevent the onboard GPU from working unless you explicitly turn it on via the driver software.
January 8, 2011 11:38:50 AM

unless the Bios settings are 'internal and then pci-e' which I imagine would be default for setups with internal graphics.

we'll have to wait for more info I guess.
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