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lhgpoobaa   10-07-2002 at 03:59:10 AM

Help me kind sirs!

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Flamethrower205   10-07-2002 at 04:40:53 AM
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Ok, u do biochemistry or something IIRC, so get me some liquid oxygen so I can see what it tastes like, and find a way so that it doesn't do harm.

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lhgpoobaa   10-07-2002 at 04:52:56 AM
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hehehe
Liquid oxygen would be much like drinking liquid nitrogen, freeze your mouth solid. If you happened to be smoking a ciggie at the same time it would blow your head off instead.

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lhgpoobaa   10-07-2002 at 05:26:15 AM
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Just FYI, and becauze im bored. Here are a few 'cool' elements and compounds.

Liquid Helium (He) BP = -268 C
Liquid Hydrogen (H2) BP = -253 C (explosive!)
Liquid Neon (Ne) BP = -246 C
Liquid Nitrogen (L2) = -196 C
Liquid Flurine (F2) = -188 C (Extreeemly corrosive!)
Liquid Oxygen (O2) = -183 C (explosive!)
Solid Carbon Dioxide (CO2) = -53 C
Liquid Chlorine (Cl2) = -34 C (highly toxic!)

all fun gasses (and 1 solid)

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pike   10-07-2002 at 09:16:07 AM
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What happens to a gas at - 273 K ?

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svol   10-07-2002 at 07:07:46 PM
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If I'm right noone knows... but you can get Bose-Einstein Condensate with those temps.

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jihiggs   10-07-2002 at 08:00:15 PM
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isnt -400 the barrier? the point where all movement stops?

how do you shoot the devil in the back? what happens if you miss? -verbal

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pike   10-07-2002 at 08:23:46 PM
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Wait...does 0 k = -273 c ?

Anyway...all subatomic motion stops, right?
No more electronic spin, right?
energy = 0
What form would matter then take, huh?
Would subatomic particules still exist?

dhlucke and silverpig...get to it!

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lhgpoobaa   10-08-2002 at 02:05:01 AM
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Actually its -273.15.... but -273 is close enough.
0 Kelvin. impossible to get colder.
No one has ever got to exactly 0 K, as even stray photons or radio waves cauz the material to heat up...
But they have got close. Very close. To within 1 millionth of a degree.
At such temps there is virtually no energy.
Atomic vibrations cease. Electrons stop spining. Ordinary matter (atoms) ceases to have individual form. You get this clumped supermatter that does really wierd stuff and behaves more like 1 big globby atom. Thats your Bose Einstein condensate. Great stuff. And it is teaching physicists alot about how matter and energy behaves.




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pike   10-08-2002 at 02:10:14 AM
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hihi
Looks like you ain`t bored anymore.
:)

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Flamethrower205   10-08-2002 at 03:13:55 AM
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I seriously wonder what it'd be like if u didn't freeze (I've thrown a frog in a bucket w/ liquid oxygen and it just blows up/shatters). Next issue, solve my computing issue- the simulation I wrote needs supercomputer type processing, and all I have is a measly 1.2Ghz....u got any supercomps there? I'm trying to get my mom to lemme use her Cray MTA.

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lhgpoobaa   10-08-2002 at 03:24:44 AM
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It probably wouldnt taste like anything, even if you could drink it.
Onygen (O2) is colourless and odourless.
Ozone O3, is a bit different. Its supposed to be slightly sickly sweet in smell and reactive/slightly toxic.


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pike   10-08-2002 at 04:25:40 AM
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I wonder what it would be like to drink pee. You know some nomadic desert tribes have had to do just that in order to survive some hard times.

just wondering...;)

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pike   10-08-2002 at 04:27:45 AM
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Oh! To keep this frozen thing going...maybe pee in a slush form would be ok...oh! my! i`m being silly again...:)))

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zpyrd   10-08-2002 at 06:22:39 AM
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If you distill your pee you will have water to drink.
If you drank pee you would suffer from dehydration faster because pee is very high in disolved salts.


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lhgpoobaa   10-08-2002 at 06:48:05 AM
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Fresh pee is actually quite sterile, so its safe to drink in the bacterial sense.
Course it contains high concentrations of Urea, which doesnt taste too good, and other assorted salts and minerals.

Remove all the Urea and most of the sodium chloride and it probably wouldnt be half bad.

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WingDing   10-08-2002 at 10:51:21 AM
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Why not try a sip the next time you're enjoying a 'golden shower'?

:eek: Wingding - proof of the need for genetic screening :eek:

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svol   10-08-2002 at 07:01:48 PM
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What for stuff there is in pee:
0.1% HCO3
0.35% Na
0.6% Cl-
0.03% Ca
0.02% Mg
0.15% K
0.4% PO4
0.12% SO3
2.0% Ureum
0.07% Creatine

And ofcourse water.

Doesn't that sound tasty?

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Yahiko81   10-08-2002 at 07:03:28 PM
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yummy. :tongue:

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svol   10-08-2002 at 07:10:14 PM
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Isn't is also so that at aound O K you get superconducting?
How can that be when no electrons move... then superconducting must have a whole diffirent way of transporting energy.

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Yahiko81   10-08-2002 at 07:23:18 PM
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interesting mr. bond.

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svol   10-08-2002 at 08:43:23 PM
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Indeed Mr. 81.
Another interesting thought: if there is a lowest temp possible would there be a maximum temp? One where atoms just evaporate to only loose quarcks?

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Yahiko81   10-09-2002 at 12:20:24 AM
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I suppose there is. But I don't know how we would ever find out. I suppose our intresments to measure that wouldn't even come close to a max temp before they disentigrated themselves.

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svol   10-09-2002 at 03:50:55 PM
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Yes... that would theoratically be impossible. Though it is fun to think about it.

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Yahiko81   10-09-2002 at 04:14:38 PM
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yes it can be.

hmm what else is there to ponder?

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svol   10-09-2002 at 05:17:49 PM
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Is it possible to traffel faster then light? And how would elements react to that speed?

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icy_oblivion   10-09-2002 at 11:39:43 PM
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There is a theory out there that says nothing but light can ever travel at the speed of light. That is because it takes more and more energy to get close to the speed of light and it would take infinite energy to travel at the speed of light.

Then there are theoretical particles that travel greater than the speed of light, but it would take infinite energy to slow them down to the speed of light.

There's some food for thought.

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lhgpoobaa   10-10-2002 at 02:05:46 AM
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Yes, Althought fortunately its not AT 0K :smile:
Helium superconducts at around 2.1k.
other compounds, both solid and liquid, superconduct at higher temps. The holy grail of course is room temp superconductivity, or at least superconductivity above the bioling point of liquid nitrogen.

From memory the best they have done is 50k or so with exotic metal/nonmetal composites. not bad considering.

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lhgpoobaa   10-10-2002 at 02:27:04 AM
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I dont think there is a max temp in the universe, despite melty often claiming it happens in AMD cpu's LOL

sure there will be some point where atoms just burst apart in femto seconds, but you could always go further so they burst apart even quicker.

I do believe there is some finite point though where matter, any matter will break apart into its constituents. Thats a limit... of sorts.

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lhgpoobaa   10-10-2002 at 02:29:53 AM
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Interesting analysis Svollie.
most of the things in there arnt too bad.
HCO3 is just carbonic acid, the salts are ok, just a bit...well...salty lol
the things that make it bad are the Urea and the Sulphates. un-yum.

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eden   10-10-2002 at 02:57:01 AM
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Today I had a chemistry test, simple gaz chemistry. Had I not asked the teacher if 0K had something special about ºC in it, I'd have gotten a number wrong.
The number had 3 temps, one 400K, one 81K, one 0K. You have to find in each gaz temp, what molecular movement can be possible out of the 3. Seeing 81 and 0 being below 0ºC, and since the gaz was H20 as water, 0 is the freezing temp. So 0K was -273ºC, though 81 was also below 0, both frozen. Had I not suspected what you guys said here, and asked the teacher if there was something particular about -273ºC, I'd never have known that at that temp of ABSOLUTE zero Kelvin, no movement is possible.

Hopefully I am right!

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lhgpoobaa   10-10-2002 at 03:46:11 AM
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Yep. very important to destinguish between C and Kelvin.
Think ill do a conversion chart.

0K = -273C = -459F :~ Absolute zero (pretty chilly)
77K = -196C = -320F :~ Bioling point of good ole' L2.
220K = -53C = -117F :~ Sublimation point of CO2.
273K = 0C = 32F :~ freezing point of water
293K = 20C = 68F :~ optimal Quake3 playing temp.
373K = 100C = 212F :~ bioling point of water, also the average temperature of athlon CPU's at idle, according to meltdown&fugger. :smile:

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svol   10-10-2002 at 05:28:30 PM
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That is what I was meaning... if there is a minium possible temp... why not a maximum too.

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svol   10-10-2002 at 05:35:43 PM
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The problem is we only know a little of the energy and matery in space... just think about anti-matter and such things, you never know what you can do with those.
Another question is: if you travel faster then light, do you also traffel faster then time?

BTW How do you guys think about the universe... does it have an end?

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Yahiko81   10-10-2002 at 09:53:23 PM
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Well it's like meltdown.. I mean there's a limit to his inteligence, but no bounds to his ignorance.

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eden   10-10-2002 at 10:35:31 PM
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Well, got a 95%. One question wrong, a multiple choice on. It was asking Boyle-Mariotte's law, but the thing is the answers were not as expected. I'd have gotten it had it been as obvious as the pressure is inversly proportional to the volume, but it had weird choices and the right one was the product of the pressure and volume is a constant, which I did not pay attention to that in class in the beginning of the year when we spoke about it. Didn't know it was called a constant!
Shame, almost 100%...

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icy_oblivion   10-11-2002 at 02:12:34 AM
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I think that the universe does have an end. However, the end is so far out there that we will never find it.

Who knows, outside of our universe there might even be other whole universes?

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lhgpoobaa   10-11-2002 at 03:17:42 AM
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The universe is either spherical or constantly expanding at such a rate you can never see the edges.

It all comes down to 11th dimentional theory.
Apparently recently physists have merged a number of theories that can finally explain things like the big bang and the relationship between gravity and and other forces.
Very wierd stuff.

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icy_oblivion   10-11-2002 at 04:04:40 AM
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Sounds like it, you have an article about it by any chance that you could post a link to?

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lhgpoobaa   10-11-2002 at 05:18:18 AM
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Yep.
Here is the easiest to understand link i found. Real cutting edge stuff.
Hope you can understand it.
<A HREF="http://www.idmon.freeserve.co.uk/dim5.htm" target="_new">http://www.idmon.freeserve.co.uk/dim5.htm</A>

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lhgpoobaa   10-11-2002 at 05:20:29 AM
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And more wierd ass stuff.
<A HREF="http://www.damtp.cam.ac.uk/user/gr/public/qg_ss.html" target="_new">http://www.damtp.cam.ac.uk/user/gr/public/qg_ss.html</A>

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icy_oblivion   10-11-2002 at 06:04:52 AM
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That stuff really is intersting. It doesn't make complete sense, but I get the feel of it.

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svol   10-11-2002 at 10:00:40 AM
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Cool, stuff that drives you completely crazy... gonne read some of that.

I think the universe expands with the speed of light so in theory it isn't possible to get faster then it and come to the end where... well where maybe nothing exists. Then you also have that nice theory of the Big Implosion that the universe is bound to fail under his own gravity (dark matter can cause this if it exists in very huge volumes).

And yes I also read some thing about multiple universes connected which eachother by wormholes or whatever you want to call them... with every universe having his own laws of physics.

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