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September 19, 2010 8:00:16 PM

Im about to upgrade my computer. Im goin to get all get all new parts and I want to know some AMD WEI scores.
This is what im up grading from. A Pentium 4 with 4GB of ram(3GB useable) and a 9400gt. I just wanna see what im getting into before I do it.

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September 19, 2010 8:52:58 PM

WEI scores are generally useless. People with the exact same hardware will have different scores. What your scores tell you is that a P4 is a bad idea with Windows 7 ;) 
Almost everyone is limited by their hard drives. Unless you have an SSD setup you will not get over 5.9 there even with RAID.
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September 20, 2010 10:05:25 PM

I actually have an SSD & get all 7.8, but the SSD still brings it down to a 7.7 WEI.




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September 21, 2010 5:27:05 AM

Get a 64bit OS to use all 4Gb of RAM. See if your motherboard will support Core 2 dual and quad core chips. Find the most recent one that will work for your board on craigslist, and pick up a used 4850 there while you're at it.
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September 21, 2010 8:09:55 PM

i have 64bit windows 7. its sees all 4GB of ram but it says 3GB usable
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September 28, 2010 7:52:31 AM

Do you have a seperate graphics card or integrated? It may be using 1GB for integrated if that is what you have.
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September 28, 2010 9:21:29 PM

zackarytj said:
Im about to upgrade my computer. Im goin to get all get all new parts and I want to know some AMD WEI scores.
This is what im up grading from. A Pentium 4 with 4GB of ram(3GB useable) and a 9400gt. I just wanna see what im getting into before I do it.
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n21/zackarytj2/WEIscores.jpg


what exactly do you want to know.?
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September 28, 2010 9:22:31 PM

anort3 said:
Do you have a seperate graphics card or integrated? It may be using 1GB for integrated if that is what you have.

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October 8, 2010 1:28:24 AM

verbalizer said:
what exactly do you want to know.?


i just wanted 2 know some of the wei scores for amd processors
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October 8, 2010 2:15:12 AM

i have somewhat of a list, which ones in particular.?
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October 8, 2010 2:24:41 AM

people say WEI scores are BS and don't mean a thing, and they might have a point.
my thing is this, it's a flawed system but as long as it stays consistent with the scores (even though a flawed system) you can gather info from it.
example: if look through a compiled list of WEI scores for a certain hardware like gt240 video card.
i'll find four or five different set-ups that are similar and compare the scores. this will give me an idea of what to expect.
still however. the WEI system is flawed.
but consistently flawed.... lol
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October 8, 2010 2:26:08 AM

zackarytj said:
i have 64bit windows 7. its sees all 4GB of ram but it says 3GB usable
  • Start -> type "Msconfig" -> hit <Enter>
  • Click the "Boot" tab
  • Click the "Advanced Options" button
  • Make sure the "Maximum Memory" option is NOT checked.
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    October 25, 2010 10:14:09 AM

    i too am unsure how accurate the wei is
    my system:
    phenom ii b50 x3 6mb l3 clocked at 3.7 and 2400mhz nb score = 7.1
    ram 4gb patriot 800mhz 4-4-4-12 score = 7.7
    cucore 5770 1gb score - 7.4
    areo score =7.4
    western digital caviar blue 500gb hdd = 5.9
    how does my triple core score almost as high as a stock i7 surely not possible
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    October 25, 2010 5:19:32 PM

    i7's are higher scored than that but, yours is good.
    you need to re-verify that RAM score though, is it correct.
    add SSD in raid configuration to get your HDD score above 5.9
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    October 25, 2010 10:15:41 PM

    I get
    Q9550 7.4
    4GB 800Mhz 7.4
    9800GX2 7.3, 7.3
    Barracuda 7200.12 5.9

    And a really chep motherboard.
    If I overclock My CPU past low I7s, it does not change.
    I used to have a lower CPU and higher Grahpics score but who knows why?
    WEI is worth ignoring.
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    October 26, 2010 1:17:35 AM

    once again:
    people say WEI scores are BS and don't mean a thing, and they might have a point.
    my thing is this, it's a flawed system but as long as it stays consistent with the scores (even though a flawed system) you can gather info from it.
    i'll find four or five different set-ups that are similar and compare the scores. this will give me an idea of what to expect.
    still however. the WEI system is flawed.
    but consistently flawed.... lol
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    a b $ Windows 7
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    October 26, 2010 1:53:53 AM

    It's flawed.
    I have E8400@4.050 : 7.0
    4GB Corsair XMS running at 900MHZ 5-5-5-15cas : 7.1
    GTX460 Overclocked 821-1642-2000 : 7.3/7.3
    2 x WD 640 Blacks in RAID 0. : 5.9



    Look at Plumble. His same 4GB of DDR2 800 RAM scores 7.4?
    A Q9550 is only .4 better than a dual core E8400?
    A 9800GX2 is equal to an overclocked GTX460?
    All mechanical hard drives are 5.9? Even in RAID 0?


    Look at batch16 his DDR2 scores a 7.7
    His 5770?! scores higher than my GTX460? I think not.

    See it's flawed.


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    October 26, 2010 3:09:32 AM

    verbalizer said:
    people say WEI scores are BS and don't mean a thing, and they might have a point.
    The biggest problem with the WEI scores is that they measure several different aspects of performance and then lump them all into a single measurement without telling you how they arrived at the number.

    Take disk performance, for example: broadly speaking disks can be measured in terms of their transfer rates, access times, and concurrent I/O capability. Yet these are all put into a single figure like "5.9", and in fact several different disks with fairly significant performance differences can all end up with the same result. Some people are looking for fast transfer rates and others are looking for short access times, but the WEI score gives you no way to differentiate between them. It's really only useful as a very broad, general approximation (like "desktop drives are faster than laptop drives").

    The same can be said for all of the different aspects that go into a graphics card, and so on.
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    October 26, 2010 8:10:00 AM

    anort3 said:
    It's flawed.

    A 9800GX2 is equal to an overclocked GTX460?



    In fairness the performance is quite similar.
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    October 26, 2010 1:13:29 PM

    a lot of people also exaggerate their WEI scores, trying to make it seems like they got a better unit then what they actually do...
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    October 27, 2010 8:36:56 PM

    verbalizer said:
    a lot of people also exaggerate their WEI scores, trying to make it seems like they got a better unit then what they actually do...


    Same as any benchmark.
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    October 28, 2010 5:12:37 PM

    (1) WEI is a poor benchmark program, BUT
    (2) as malmental said, it has it's place and CAN identify a problem.
    .... (a) If a HDD that in most cases scores a 5.7/9 and yours is coming up 4.5, you have a problem ie maybe it is runing in PIO mode and not DMA mode. What should a HHD score be when the max score is 7.9 and a good SSD (20 -> 50 X faster than a HHD (access time on the order of 50-> 100 faster) can only get 7.9
    For SSDs (Pheonix Pro or Vertex-2) if Most are getting a 7.7 and 7.8 and you are getting a 7.0 -> 7.3, I'll bet a bottom $ that (1) if Intel P55 / x58 you are using a incorrect driver (ie uSoft default AHCI driver and not INTEL latest RST driver, or (2) you Have an AMD chipset.

    Also concur with smimlal, On HDDs, depends on what is important to user, A sportscar is not very good at pulling my boat, but on a trip without boat the sportscar is better.

    .... On memory if you have a P55 chipset then Your DDR3 is running Daul channel not triple channel mode. I have a E6400 w/ DDR2 1600 runing a bus freq of 400 Mhz and CL 4, I also have DDR3 (P55) which has a Bus freq of 200 (gets pumped up to 400) CL 7 - Real life - Not a big diff and WEI gives about the same memory score

    ... On CPU, Probably somewhat close as far as rating goes. Remember speed is not the only factor as Newer CPUs are more eff.


    To ans question, My lowest score is 7.4 (GPU). system I5-750 @ 3.2 GHz, DDR3-3 1600 (PC12800) CL 7, ATI 5770 (not a gamer), and a Pheonix Pro 120 Gig SSD.
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    October 29, 2010 12:02:39 AM

    I have two AMD Systems at the moment... WEI scores...

    Phenom II x6 1055T: 7.4
    Ram DDR3 @ 1333Mhz: 7.4
    HD4250 (on board) Graphics: 4.5
    HD4250 Gaming Graphics (on board): 5.4
    WD Velociraptor 150GB: 5.9

    and...

    Phenom II x4 945: 7.3
    Ram DDR2 @ 800Mhz: 7.3
    HD3870 Graphics: 7.0
    HD3870 Gaming Graphics: 7.0
    WD Velociraptor 450GB: 5.9

    I hope this helps,

    Dan
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    October 29, 2010 12:43:01 AM

    Quote:
    I have E8400@4.050 : 7.0
    4GB Corsair XMS running at 900MHZ 5-5-5-15cas : 7.1
    GTX460 Overclocked 821-1642-2000 : 7.3/7.3
    2 x WD 640 Blacks in RAID 0. : 5.9




    My C: drive 2 x WD 640s in RAID 0 has become this OCZ Vertex 2 120GB and my WEI went from 5.9 to 7.8.
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    a b $ Windows 7
    October 29, 2010 9:28:55 PM

    retired chief - ahoy mate..!
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    a b $ Windows 7
    October 30, 2010 4:09:35 AM

    ^ Yea, I'm still vertical and above ground.
    heading up to Fredricks MD to visit the kids
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    October 31, 2010 10:39:05 AM

    ^
    enjoy..
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    November 7, 2010 3:45:50 AM

    im an amd fan boy so i say buy a new 6870 gpu and a quad core cpu like 940 or better and 6 gigs and your future proffed for a few years and gaming will be an option for a 1-2 years with no upgrade needed. also you won t get riped off like you would with and intel and nvidia set up. when in doubt look up stuff on future mark not windows
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    November 18, 2010 4:58:16 AM

    Mine sort of:

    7.6 - AMD Phenom II X6 1055T
    7.8 - Team Ex-Dark PC 12800 8Gb (4x2Gb)
    7.9 - Biostar Radeon HD 5770 CrossfireX (windows aero)
    7.5 - Biostar Radeon HD 5770 CrossfireX (gaming)

    *partial/hdd transfer rate* (most hate work, spend my weekend) :( 
    7.2 - Team S1 SSD 120Gb (no secondary)
    7.0 - Team S1 SSD 120Gb (with WD Raptor)
    6.4 - Team S1 SSD 120Gb (with WD Caviar)

    6.3 - WD Raptor HDD 300Gb (no secondary)
    6.3 - WD Raptor HDD 300Gb (with Team S1)
    6.1 - WD Raptor HDD 300Gb (with WD Caviar)

    5.9 - WD Caviar HDD 1Tb (no secondary)
    5.9 - WD Caviar HDD 1Tb (with Team S1)
    5.9 - WD Caviar HDD 1Tb (with WD Raptor)

    and...
    7.0 - All storage plugged in (Team S1 as primary, WD Raptor and WD Caviar)
    6.3 - All storage plugged in (WD Raptor as primary, Team S1 and WD Caviar)
    5.9 - All storage plugged in (WD Caviar as primary, Team S1 and WD Raptor)

    *others*
    - Biostar TA890FXE
    - Cooler Master SP 600w
    - all drivers at the latest version

    WD Raptor isn't make significant improvement in my desktop system based on WEI. But based on MEI (my experience index, lol...) it offer balance power for both gaming and graphic design. When you goes for gaming, SSD is the first choice. But when it goes to graphic design, 10000rpm HDD is the ultimate solution. It's because SSD read speed is higher than HDD (10k rpm) and it is great for gaming, but the write speed is lower than HDD (10k rpm) and it is best for disk write process (photo/video editing or installing application, etc).

    I want to make it clear to everyone that WEI on hard drive isn't a true experience. Crysis warhead (1920x1080, enthusiast setting, 4xMSAA) in my system running at 31fps (Team S1), 30fps (WD Raptor) and 28fps (WD Caviar). That makes another $300 isn't worth, right? How about upgrading the GPU that can increase another 15fps?

    My best solution are, 7200rpm HDD for gaming and mainstream graphic application, 10000rpm HDD for gaming and more intense graphic application. Instead of using it on desktop, I prefer use the SSD on my notebook since it significantly increase the booting process, faster when running multi applications, more secure protection and less power consumption.

    So, never stuck on those WEI. Use your own experience index...

    *note:
    It isn't Western Digital marketing campaign. LOL...
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    November 19, 2010 10:24:47 AM

    I find it funny how my unoverclocked (2.9ghz stock settings) dual core Athlon manages to make a 6.4.

    Yeah, these WEI scores are odd.
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    a b $ Windows 7
    November 19, 2010 12:47:12 PM

    ^
    odd yes but, that's the norm for athlon ii (2.9GHz) chip
    athlon i (2.9GHz) chip is 6.0..
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    November 24, 2010 1:52:46 AM

    my daily general usage system is a dual core, I keep it for sentimental reasons.. :p 
    6000+ (3.1GHz) - 6.2
    4GB DDR2 800 - 6.7
    GT240 DDR5 - 6.8/6.8
    S.Barracuda - 5.9
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    November 24, 2010 3:32:29 AM



    AMD Phenom II 955 - 7.4

    OCZ BE DDR3 - 7.5

    MSI N460GTX - 7.5

    WD Black 1TB - 5.9
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