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Dell Uses 'Apples to Apples' Comparison to Show How Its PCs are Better Than Macs

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August 11, 2010 2:12:07 PM

LOL, PC united!
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Anonymous
August 11, 2010 2:13:27 PM

Well, that makes me even more proud of my Studio 1555.
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August 11, 2010 2:14:22 PM

Kind of odd why they display 'buy now' right next to the savings instead of the original price. Now they look more expensive while quickly reading the page.
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Anonymous
August 11, 2010 2:14:56 PM

The question remains, how much is that Apple logo worth?
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August 11, 2010 2:16:45 PM

Its interesting there is nothing about built quality.

Both Toyota and Lexus cars have wheels, doors, seats, and engine but Lexus is Lexus.

Salute!
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August 11, 2010 2:17:18 PM

This is a mistake. Way to acknowledge the competition there guys! There is a reason that when Pepsi's ads poke at Coke, Coke asks who Pepsi is.
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August 11, 2010 2:19:04 PM

apple laptops are made for people who believe in excess and have very large ego problems. our world sits around us crumbling, and people starving, stealing, dying, yet people have the audacity to purchase 2 or 3 apple media products and laim they are necessities. some of these people are 'urban planners'. boo. save some of that money and help yourself or those in need.
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August 11, 2010 2:24:10 PM

kristoffeapple laptops are made for people who believe in excess and have very large ego problems. our world sits around us crumbling, and people starving, stealing, dying, yet people have the audacity to purchase 2 or 3 apple media products and laim they are necessities. some of these people are 'urban planners'. boo. save some of that money and help yourself or those in need.


The hypocrite speaks....

What kind of shoes are you wearing and what do you drive to work... Do you know where all those products you use are made?

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August 11, 2010 2:27:32 PM

+1
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August 11, 2010 2:31:02 PM

I tried to customize it and it gave me this message
"We're sorry, but we are unable to process your request. The product or offer you are attempting to locate is no longer available."

Way to go Marketing advertise a product I can't buy. The time to buy a mac is when they refresh the line else you have 3-6 months of price drops by other OEMs. At the end of the day buy what you like and enjoy because it is something you will probably use every day for the next few years.

What is not factored into the cost though is the tech support. I would love to see the comparison between customer satisfaction between Apple where you can call or go to a local store and other OEMs who send you off to India.
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August 11, 2010 2:31:04 PM

PC = Best bang for the buck. But even you must admit, if you can sell water to a whale like Apple does, you would.
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August 11, 2010 2:32:50 PM

kristoffeapple laptops are made for people who believe in excess and have very large ego problems. our world sits around us crumbling, and people starving, stealing, dying, yet people have the audacity to purchase 2 or 3 apple media products and laim they are necessities. some of these people are 'urban planners'. boo. save some of that money and help yourself or those in need.


I'll bet anything that you never gave a dime to charity.
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August 11, 2010 2:37:08 PM

smekerIts interesting there is nothing about built quality.Both Toyota and Lexus cars have wheels, doors, seats, and engine but Lexus is Lexus.Salute!


I or any of my friends/family havent had any problems with Toyota reliability.
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Anonymous
August 11, 2010 2:37:52 PM

why cant we all just get along ...

it is very important that there are macs in this world .... it alows us to spot the person who is compensating for something out of a crowd ....
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August 11, 2010 2:40:45 PM

lol Outch!
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August 11, 2010 2:41:02 PM

Specs dont lie
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August 11, 2010 2:42:26 PM

Snipergod87I or any of my friends/family havent had any problems with Toyota reliability.

Right... I guess you did not hear about their recent design problem with their break system... They had to recall many cars and spent billions of dollars in damage control and image recovery....

Use Google if you dont read newspapers....
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August 11, 2010 2:42:40 PM

Specs are old...Latest iMacs come with i3s and 5000 series GFX.
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August 11, 2010 2:45:14 PM

smekerIts interesting there is nothing about built quality.Both Toyota and Lexus cars have wheels, doors, seats, and engine but Lexus is Lexus.Salute!


I agree, but perhaps in different terms. I'm a PC fella and I wouldn't say that an Apple is the "Lexus" of computers, but there are a few differences in the way that every PC and Mac is made. Other things to note (that aren't always advertised) are things like what the cases are made of (most Apples are aluminum frames), energy comsumption, heat dissipation (IMO, this is not stressed enough in ads), and the deeper specifics such as the memory type and speed. I really think that more spec's should be listed on computers these days.
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August 11, 2010 2:46:16 PM

I'd really like to see better quality LCD screens on Windows-Based laptops. Less stickers, and no AOL promotion shortcuts on my desktop. To be honest, if you want a Dell laptop or any other laptop that has quality feel and look (with the perfomance to back it up), the price of those machines comes really close to the price of a MacBook.

You have to give Apple credit for pushing PC manufacturers to rethink about putting out dull and bulky designs of Laptops.
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August 11, 2010 2:47:59 PM

insider3I'll bet anything that you never gave a dime to charity.


well, my friend, there was recently a list that came out of 40 billionaires (including Bill Gates) who are each giving a substantial amount of their wealth to charity... Did not see Steve Jobs/Wozniak's mane on that list...
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August 11, 2010 2:48:21 PM

Thank you for publishing this Dell.
Now maybe Mac people out there can understand why so many people don't like Mac computers. They are a straight up ripoff.
If it's the fact that Mac don't get as many viruses as PCs. Then all I have to say to that is...
Run a polished version of Linux. Because OSX is Linux based. Which means you very likely wouldn't get a virus and you could still do all of the things a Mac can do plus save about $1000 by not paying Apple's insane prices.
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August 11, 2010 2:48:33 PM

smekerIts interesting there is nothing about built quality.Both Toyota and Lexus cars have wheels, doors, seats, and engine but Lexus is Toyota.Salute!


Fixed that for you.

Really funny you chose those two, because it is quite accurate for mac vs PC. They really are the same thing with different badges, just one costs more.
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August 11, 2010 2:49:36 PM

I general it looks biased towards Dell:
1. Weight and the size of the notebook, this is where Apple beats Dell.
2. Battery life on Apple is longer, with less weight and size
3. Apple has a better touch-pad, then Dell.
4. Microsoft Messenger is available for Mac OS straight from Microsoft.
5. Dell comes with 720p screen and not 1080p, like Apple. 1080p can be chosen as an option for 100$ more.

Some items, which Dell didn't mention are an option for Blu-Ray, built-in broadband and removable battery. These are strong points of Dell.
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August 11, 2010 2:50:25 PM

tapnickSpecs dont lie

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It gets worse if they compare the 13'' macbook's to any other high end laptop w\ better specs for less money.
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August 11, 2010 2:51:38 PM

kristoffeapple laptops are made for people who believe in excess and have very large ego problems. our world sits around us crumbling, and people starving, stealing, dying, yet people have the audacity to purchase 2 or 3 apple media products and laim they are necessities. some of these people are 'urban planners'. boo. save some of that money and help yourself or those in need.


I do dislike Apple but... Apple computers are for people who like the Apple computers.

When you like something enough, it's price that you paid for is exactly the price it was worth, for that person. Free market for the win.
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August 11, 2010 2:53:08 PM

smeker said:
Its interesting there is nothing about built quality.

Both Toyota and Lexus cars have wheels, doors, seats, and engine but Lexus is Lexus.

Salute!
If you want to make a Toyota = PC Lexus = Mac car analogy, then it would be more like this:

The Toyota and Lexus have the exact same parts and the Toyota can be upgraded to have all the amenities of the Lexus. The quality is equivalent.

However, the Lexus costs twice as much because it has a glowing logo on the hood, only comes in black or silver, and can only be driven on <5% of the roads available (software).

But I'm sure a 'Lexus' owner would claim that those roads are better than all other roads so that doesn't matter to them.
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August 11, 2010 2:54:31 PM

Apple charges $100 for an iMac mini keyboard and mouse? One of them better be able to *low the user for that amount!
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August 11, 2010 2:56:38 PM

Dell left out some of the most important bits of information just to make themselves look better. They tell you they have 1GB of VRAM but dont tell you what GPU is in there so its meaningless.
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August 11, 2010 2:59:17 PM

cyprodFixed that for you.Really funny you chose those two, because it is quite accurate for mac vs PC. They really are the same thing with different badges, just one costs more.


Lexus is the luxury branch of Toyota.. They are more expensive not because of the logo but the built quality.
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August 11, 2010 2:59:48 PM

revelationsrwhy cant we all just get along ... it is very important that there are macs in this world .... it alows us to spot the person who is compensating for something out of a crowd ....


I think it was called Windows Vista, battery life and weight when I bought my mac.
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August 11, 2010 3:00:24 PM

superblahman123Other things to note (that aren't always advertised) are things like what the cases are made of (most Apples are aluminum frames), energy comsumption, heat dissipation (IMO, this is not stressed enough in ads), and the deeper specifics such as the memory type and speed.


I would say if you told 90% of computer users what their RAM speed was, they would ask you what RAM was. They usually don't put specifics such as those because most users don't care and/or know what they are referring to.
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August 11, 2010 3:00:48 PM

smekerRight... I guess you did not hear about their recent design problem with their break system... They had to recall many cars and spent billions of dollars in damage control and image recovery....Use Google if you dont read newspapers....


Probably because they own a bunch of 15 year old Toyotas the ones that were made with build quality in the details of the car. Unlike the new ones where they got concerned about fender gaps and the interior looking fresh and being "as nice as a BMW" so they cheaped out on their throttle by wire tech, their brakes, and on their trucks used a very cheap cable for their spare tire holders causing the tire to eventually snap the cable and bounce along behind the driver.

It's funny though, noone ever thinks even after being trained this in a school driving course (that the old fart driving probably sat through, since half to 3/4 of the problem happened to people 45+) that the solution to a runaway car is, simply, to turn the ignition to the off position.

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August 11, 2010 3:01:10 PM

rwpritchett The quality is equivalent.However, the Lexus costs twice as much because it has a glowing logo on the hood, only comes in black or silver, and can only be driven on <5% of the roads available (software).But I'm sure a 'Lexus' owner would claim that those roads are better than all other roads so that doesn't matter to them.



I can see you've never driven a lexus....
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August 11, 2010 3:01:37 PM

Heh Dell. I'll build it myself kthxbye
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August 11, 2010 3:02:12 PM

kristoffeapple laptops are made for people who believe in excess and have very large ego problems. our world sits around us crumbling, and people starving, stealing, dying, yet people have the audacity to purchase 2 or 3 apple media products and laim they are necessities. some of these people are 'urban planners'. boo. save some of that money and help yourself or those in need.


This is the dumbest statement I have ever read on Tom's, and that is saying a lot. Do you live in a nice home, with running water and electricity? Do you own a car? I see you are using a computer to make this post. You could have taken some of the money you spend on all of these things and other stuff like cable TV, clothes, dining out or internet service and given it to all the people of the world that have none of the previously mentioned luxuries.

How dare you, a person that HAS try to speak for people that DON'T have. You are exploiting their suffering for your personal agenda with no real regard for the human beings themselves.

I do what I can, like donations to children's hospitals and other charities and we set our computers and game consoles to folding @ home when we can, the wife volunteers her time to 4-H which all of our children are a part of, but I will be the first to admit that I do the most I can for the wife and three children first and foremost.

I wish I could be the person that could give up all we have and go do volunteer work in a area filled with impoverished people, and I respect those that do so, but being older now with children I would never give up the life we have built to drag them off to some other are and force my cause on them.

I have nothing but respect for the man and his family living out of an old station wagon and doing odd jobs for small change and swallowing his pride to visit soup kitchens and shelters to keep them healthy. I don't respect the man that uses that situation to push a cause or agenda from the comfort of his living room.
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August 11, 2010 3:04:29 PM

omenowl What is not factored into the cost though is the tech support. I would love to see the comparison between customer satisfaction between Apple where you can call or go to a local store and other OEMs who send you off to India.


Simulated Phone Conversation

User: Yeah, my Mac seems to have a problem and it keeps crashing on me.
Mac Tech Support: You are holding it wrong.
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August 11, 2010 3:04:53 PM

A Corvette ZR1 is just as fast as a Ferrari Enzo. You can get the ZR1 for a fourth of the price, but if you can afford the enzo, and will have to spend a lot of time in the interior, then why the hell would you get the ZR1?

Macs and PCs are comparable to this. I buy a PC because I can't justify spending over $1000 on a laptop or desktop unless I built it myself. However, I would love to have one, and I am always impressed by their battery life, customer service (I have an iPhone) and their interfaces. It's all just completely relative to the user, but you have to admit Apple puts it in a nicer overall package.
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August 11, 2010 3:06:14 PM

smekerIts interesting there is nothing about built quality.Both Toyota and Lexus cars have wheels, doors, seats, and engine but Lexus is Lexus.Salute!

um....FYI they don't have the same wheels, doors, engines, plugs,gaskets, transmissions etc. two totally different manufacturers, the dell is showing the exact same hardware in their product as apple.
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Anonymous
August 11, 2010 3:15:45 PM

This only compare h/w. don't forget the apple software r way better. it's worth the premium.

back to h/w, in my opinion, dell's quality is below par.
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August 11, 2010 3:15:57 PM

bobusboyum....FYI they don't have the same wheels, doors, engines, plugs,gaskets, transmissions etc. two totally different manufacturers, the dell is showing the exact same hardware in their product as apple.

You are wrong my friend
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August 11, 2010 3:22:45 PM

I think the main difference between Mac and PC users is if you look at a customers perspective. PC users are open and willing to call a PC over-priced crap when it's over-priced crap and Mac users just smile and cringe as they receive their bill from Steve Jobs.

As far as "Built" quality is concerned, I usually try to avoid companies who underpays and provides poor work conditions for their employees (Foxconn). If what I've read is true then Foxconn makes motherboards for both Dell and Mac computers... so neither company really is on my radar.

Also, one thing that is never mentioned in any spec sheet for any brand is also Heat Output. Have any of you ever sat with a Macbook Pro in your lap... the thing gets uncomfortably hot very fast. My gf burnt my stomach when she put it on me while i was laying down.
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August 11, 2010 3:28:00 PM

Dell: Plastic
Apple: Aluminum Unibody

Dell: AMD Dual Core
Apple: Core 2 Duo

Dell: ATI 3200HD (which my netbook has)
Apple: NVIDIA 320M


... the list goes on and on. They are comparing rotten Apples to Apple. So what, it's cheaper, just by looking at the specifications and the build quality you can tell why it is cheaper. It's called common sense.
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August 11, 2010 3:28:27 PM

smekerIts interesting there is nothing about built quality.Both Toyota and Lexus cars have wheels, doors, seats, and engine but Lexus is Lexus.Salute!


I only buy Foxconn motherboards when I am building a machine for a customer on a really tight budget.
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August 11, 2010 3:33:52 PM

omenowlI tried to customize it and it gave me this message"We're sorry, but we are unable to process your request. The product or offer you are attempting to locate is no longer available." Way to go Marketing advertise a product I can't buy. The time to buy a mac is when they refresh the line else you have 3-6 months of price drops by other OEMs. At the end of the day buy what you like and enjoy because it is something you will probably use every day for the next few years. What is not factored into the cost though is the tech support. I would love to see the comparison between customer satisfaction between Apple where you can call or go to a local store and other OEMs who send you off to India.

Tech support with Apple?
They charge $100 to replace a battery in a iphone. A battery that's quick and easy to replace for $20...
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August 11, 2010 3:36:08 PM

Wow, a bunch of fanboys commenting on this article. Mac systems have their benefits (general laptop design, minimal spyware/adware so far, easy os) and Windows systems have its benefits (non proprietary hardware, cheaper systems, huge software selection). Choose what you want and quit worrying about what someone else prefers.

Personally, I love the design of the macbooks and how the OS uses the design directly in its software. But I also love Windows systems for software and ability to build my own desktop. It's great to have the option of either.
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August 11, 2010 3:40:45 PM

Oh, and if they are going to compare the specifications of it's new systems to Apple, they should really use the correct and current information:

Apple 21.5" iMac (1920-by-1080 resolution)
3.2GHz Intel Core i3
4GB (two 2GB) memory (DDR3)
1TB hard drive
8x double-layer SuperDrive
ATI Radeon HD 5670 with 512MB

$1499.99
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August 11, 2010 3:40:46 PM

thats like saying that why would you buy a 100k viper when you can get a 50k DODGE SRT with the same engine and trans(modified)well it has the same hardware right....NOT!!! "ITS NOT THE SAME" it will be a different experience.

Battery life, size, weight, screen resolution, OS, quality feeling to the touch. All that counts too.

Don't criticize and judge a product just because you can't afford it. of course I can make any car(PC) that perform faster than a Ferrari(Apple) with a fraction of the price but if you drive both you will feel the difference on quality build and overall performance.

BTW I have a total of 6 computers at home including a iMac, 4 (Dell, HP& Toshiba) Laptops and a Windows Home Server. I'm not a apple fan. Yes they are way OVERPRICE, offer old hardware (intel i3,i5& i7 family was out for a year before they implemented them on their computers), but I have to admit They Are Nice Computers!. If you can't see that you are focusing on the price instead of the product.
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August 11, 2010 3:42:40 PM

what the recent comparisons between windows and mac means is that the windows portion of the industry is feeling a little threatened by mac. otherwise why would they care all of a sudden? but this is good. if the windows side can pressure apple into making better products, then the windows guys will have to make even better ones and the consumer wins.
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