D-Link DWL-G650+ hangs my laptop

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Hi!

I have a D-Link DWL-G650+ PCMCIA card in my laptop. The card works
fine, but when I unplug the power cord and start using the machine
with battery power, it hang if I transfer any larger files or have
constant traffic going on. After testing this problem, I have come
to the conclusion, that the cause is the D-Link card. Has anyone
else experienced this kind of behavior with wireless D-Link cards
and is there any way to fix the situation? I already have asked
the D-Link tech support about this, but they couldn't come up with
any usable solution.

The laptop is running a Windows XP Home Edition (SP1) and the
network card drivers are the newest ones available. The laptop
is an HP Pavilion with Athlon-XP processor, which has some quite
heavy power saving functionality, when running with the battery
(could cause problems?).


Sincerely,
Matti J. Kärki
 
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Hi Matti,

I really don't know, but I can imagine, you could have asked the right
question. Maybe you should try to turn off powersaving for the card. I
think u know how to manage this;)

Hope this will fix the problem.

regards,

Jens

PS: I dont think this is solving problems, but maybe u should try to
install sp2. Maybe you could check, if there are differences using
windows or knoppix (bootable linux by cd - www.knoppix.org)

Matti J Karki wrote:
> Hi!
>
> I have a D-Link DWL-G650+ PCMCIA card in my laptop. The card works
> fine, but when I unplug the power cord and start using the machine
> with battery power, it hang if I transfer any larger files or have
> constant traffic going on. After testing this problem, I have come
> to the conclusion, that the cause is the D-Link card. Has anyone
> else experienced this kind of behavior with wireless D-Link cards
> and is there any way to fix the situation? I already have asked
> the D-Link tech support about this, but they couldn't come up with
> any usable solution.
>
> The laptop is running a Windows XP Home Edition (SP1) and the
> network card drivers are the newest ones available. The laptop
> is an HP Pavilion with Athlon-XP processor, which has some quite
> heavy power saving functionality, when running with the battery
> (could cause problems?).
>
>
> Sincerely,
> Matti J. Kärki
 
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Jens Hartmann wrote:
> Hi Matti,
>
> I really don't know, but I can imagine, you could have asked the right
> question. Maybe you should try to turn off powersaving for the card. I
> think u know how to manage this;)
>
> Hope this will fix the problem.
>
> regards,
>
> Jens
>
> PS: I dont think this is solving problems, but maybe u should try to
> install sp2. Maybe you could check, if there are differences using
> windows or knoppix (bootable linux by cd - www.knoppix.org)
>
> Matti J Karki wrote:
>
>> Hi!
>>
>> I have a D-Link DWL-G650+ PCMCIA card in my laptop. The card works
>> fine, but when I unplug the power cord and start using the machine
>> with battery power, it hang if I transfer any larger files or have
>> constant traffic going on. After testing this problem, I have come
>> to the conclusion, that the cause is the D-Link card. Has anyone
>> else experienced this kind of behavior with wireless D-Link cards
>> and is there any way to fix the situation? I already have asked
>> the D-Link tech support about this, but they couldn't come up with
>> any usable solution.
>>
>> The laptop is running a Windows XP Home Edition (SP1) and the
>> network card drivers are the newest ones available. The laptop
>> is an HP Pavilion with Athlon-XP processor, which has some quite
>> heavy power saving functionality, when running with the battery
>> (could cause problems?).
>>
>>
>> Sincerely,
>> Matti J. Kärki

but I am not sure if there are linuxdrivers for the G650...-sorry
 
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On Thu, 25 Nov 2004 20:57:33 +0100, Jens Hartmann <jhcool@gmx.net>
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>but I am not sure if there are linuxdrivers for the G650...-sorry

There are 4 mutations of the G650 sold in the US plus the G650+ which
is NOT sold in the US. Which one do you have and where?

Linux drivers appear to be available from Realtek.
http://support.dlink.com/faq/view.asp?prod_id=357
http://support.dlink.com/faq/view.asp?prod_id=487

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Jens Hartmann <jhcool@gmx.net> wrote:
> I really don't know, but I can imagine, you could have asked the right
> question. Maybe you should try to turn off powersaving for the card. I
> think u know how to manage this;)
>
> Hope this will fix the problem.

I checked and it seems that the card is in "continuous access" mode.
In other words, the power saving mode is off.


> PS: I dont think this is solving problems, but maybe u should try to
> install sp2. Maybe you could check, if there are differences using
> windows or knoppix (bootable linux by cd - www.knoppix.org)

Well, I was reluctant to try the SP2, because I have had some problems
with it in the past. But I installed it anyway and still the problem
exists.

I also tested the card with Knoppix 2.6 and ndiswrapper. Unfortunately,
the ndiswrapper didn't get the Windows driver working.


Sincerely,
Matti J. Kärki
 
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Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@comix.santa-cruz.ca.us> wrote:
>
> There are 4 mutations of the G650 sold in the US plus the G650+ which
> is NOT sold in the US. Which one do you have and where?

Well, I'm the one who is in a need of the Linux driver and I'm living
in Europe and using G650+ card.


> Linux drivers appear to be available from Realtek.
> http://support.dlink.com/faq/view.asp?prod_id=357

Thanks for the link. I'll need to check the acx100.sourceforge.net
project...


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Matti J. Kärki
 
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Matti J Karki <mjkarki@cs.helsinki.fi> wrote:
> I have a D-Link DWL-G650+ PCMCIA card in my laptop. The card works
> fine, but when I unplug the power cord and start using the machine
> with battery power, it hangs if I transfer any larger files or have
> constant traffic going on.

OK. I was able to fix this problem. I changed the Wlan card to use 11b
instead of 11g connection. This seems to prevent the hanging.

Does anyone else has experiences of this kind of behavior where
forcing the card to use 11b will fix connection problems?


Sincerely,
Matti J. Kärki
 
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Well not rearly,

Do you have the newest driver installed from dlink website?
If this doesnt work try the atheros 3.x.x driver.

I use this here because it supports althoug passive mode for capturing .)

If you dont know where to get it,feel free to email me.


Regards,
Ingo



On [DATE], in article [ARTICLE], "Matti J Karki" <[ADDRESS]> wrote:

> Matti J Karki <mjkarki@cs.helsinki.fi> wrote:
>> I have a D-Link DWL-G650+ PCMCIA card in my laptop. The card works
>> fine, but when I unplug the power cord and start using the machine
>> with battery power, it hangs if I transfer any larger files or have
>> constant traffic going on.
>
> OK. I was able to fix this problem. I changed the Wlan card to use 11b
> instead of 11g connection. This seems to prevent the hanging.
>
> Does anyone else has experiences of this kind of behavior where
> forcing the card to use 11b will fix connection problems?
>
>
> Sincerely,
> Matti J. Kärki
 
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Ingo Rose <ingo_rose@t-online.de> wrote:
> Do you have the newest driver installed from dlink website?

Yes, I have. I also noticed that when the laptop battery is almost
out of juice, the computer may hang under heavy traffic even if the
card if forced to work as an 11b card. So, now I'm suspecting that
my laptop can't keep up the stable power at the PCMCIA slot.


> If this doesnt work try the atheros 3.x.x driver.

Interesting. What does Ahteros have to do with D-Link cards?
I thought that the G650+ uses Motorola or TI chipsets.


Sincerely,
Matti J. Kärki
 
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On [DATE], in article [ARTICLE], "Matti J Karki" <[ADDRESS]> wrote:

> Ingo Rose <ingo_rose@t-online.de> wrote:
>> Do you have the newest driver installed from dlink website?
>
> Yes, I have. I also noticed that when the laptop battery is almost
> out of juice, the computer may hang under heavy traffic even if the
> card if forced to work as an 11b card. So, now I'm suspecting that
> my laptop can't keep up the stable power at the PCMCIA slot.
>
>
>> If this doesnt work try the atheros 3.x.x driver.
>
> Interesting. What does Ahteros have to do with D-Link cards?
> I thought that the G650+ uses Motorola or TI chipsets.
Well i havent looked at the chipset yet.
I always use www.wildpackets.com website for lookinf for hardware :)
Go to the support page and look under airopeek supported hardware v2.x
If your card is in there it deffently can do passiv mode :)
You althoug will find a link to the atheros driver there.
Pls use only the driver they announce on their website.i tryed newer drivers
form them and they didnt fitt.

Was the same with dlink 610. As they write on their website the realtek
driver should work,but it didnt.

I patched the driver and voila passiv mode worked.

Seems the best built database on their website about cards and even normal
pci cards that can handle other drivers.

Cheers,
Ingo

>
>
> Sincerely,
> Matti J. Kärki
 
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Ingo Rose <ingo_rose@t-online.de> wrote:
> I always use www.wildpackets.com website for lookinf for hardware :)

Thanks for the info. I'll check the site.


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Matti J. Kärki
 
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Matti J Karki <mjkarki@cs.helsinki.fi> wrote in news:coevbg$2fa$1
@oravannahka.helsinki.fi:

D-Link has an unhelpful habit of using the same numbering system for
*completely* different products. It's easy to get them confused.

The DWL-650, DWL-650+ and DWL-G650+ are all based on different
wirless chipsets, and even between these (particularly the DWL-650)
different chipsets have been used in different hardware revisions.

One clue lies in the "+". This is used to indicate so-called
802.11b+, the 22 Mbit/s speed achieved using PBCC modulation. This
was invented by TI and there was some squabbling about it; although
it is an option in IEEE 802.11g, (almost*) all wireless devices
capable of this speed are based on TI devices.

The DWL-650+ is based on the TI ACX100
The DWL-G650+ is based on the TI TNETW1130

* The Marvell Libertas 88W8000 / 88W8300 chipset implements a 22
Mbit/s 'proprietary' speed, which I assume uses PBCC, but I could be
wrong.

Hope this helps

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