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a b å Intel
August 17, 2010 3:21:00 PM

What, no 6-core CPUs at all???
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August 17, 2010 3:21:50 PM

I am desperately waiting for AMD to put competition in the high end market.
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August 17, 2010 3:22:49 PM

ANOTHER socket...
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August 17, 2010 3:24:08 PM

What, no LGA1366 form factor at all???
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a b å Intel
August 17, 2010 3:25:43 PM

aevmWhat, no 6-core CPUs at all???

Those(6 cores) from what I see are all on 1366 not 1156(i sure hope that 1155 is a typo)
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August 17, 2010 3:25:50 PM

2100T looks like perfect HTPC CPU with its low TDP, and hope the price of CPU+basic motherboard wont be too hight
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August 17, 2010 3:27:01 PM

Great, another new socket......

Intel- take a page out of AMD's book. Provide a reasonable upgrade path for customers who already dropped $250+ on an LGA 1366 board.
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August 17, 2010 3:28:41 PM

nukemasterThose(6 cores) from what I see are all on 1366 not 1156(i sure hope that 1155 is a typo)


The 6-core CPU's will be in the higher end market segment like it is now, but i don't believe it will still be the 1366 socket.

Also, 1155 isn't a typo. There's one less pin than than the 1156 socket.
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August 17, 2010 3:30:25 PM

LGA1155...?
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August 17, 2010 3:30:27 PM

I might be missing something, but what distinguishes the 2600K and the 2500K from just the 2600 and 2500?
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August 17, 2010 3:31:48 PM

pbrigidoI might be missing something, but what distinguishes the 2600K and the 2500K from just the 2600 and 2500?


Is that the unlocked multiplier?
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August 17, 2010 3:33:45 PM

JasonAkkermanIs that the unlocked multiplier?


hm...maybe. That's a better guess that I am able to come up with.
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August 17, 2010 3:34:43 PM

pbrigidoI might be missing something, but what distinguishes the 2600K and the 2500K from just the 2600 and 2500?


K = unlocked multiplier i think.
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August 17, 2010 3:35:57 PM

its actually not a typo its 1365 and 1155 they are taking off one pin for both sockets and this is confirmed by my intel rep and a couple of buddies that work there when i worked there not sure why they did this but thats the case so be ready to shell out some money for new board and proc
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August 17, 2010 3:37:07 PM

and yes K is an unlocked proc for the 1155 socket now in the 1365 socket it will be just like it is now no "K" version just the extreme version
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August 17, 2010 3:38:31 PM

JasonAkkermanIs that the unlocked multiplier?


that's what i'm assuming, 3.4 base clock is pretty high, i imagine that'll hit 5 pretty easily with the unlocked multi, times 8 logical cores and that's 40ghz of processing power... yowsers

i'm also a little shocked that all of these come with the graphics core, what kind of person is buying a 3.4ghz quad core, and not even buying a $50 graphics card that would blow the integrated graphics out of the water?
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August 17, 2010 3:40:20 PM

HA, new sockets already? Damn and AMD is still working with AM2+ and AM3. Hell even bulldozer is said to be compatible with AM3. Intel just wants you to spend money on their chipsets by buying new motherboards. Glad I dont buy intel. Feel bad for you guys.
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August 17, 2010 3:40:54 PM

Just when will v c a similar Roadmap from AMD ??? Its desperately needed.
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August 17, 2010 3:47:47 PM

well like people always say backwards compatibility isnt always a good thing thats why intel does things the way they do it.. people wanted fast refreshes.. its called tick tock. on the tick you get a refresh on the tock you get a completly new processor and if memory serves we are on the refresh right now so what more can you expect.. i am sorry that AMD cant seem to bring anything new to the market every other year it only takes them what now 5 years.. so ya i can see them being able to make it backwards compatible i am sure intel could do the same thing but they choose not too which in turn speeds up the refresh and the release of new processors. So dont complain i am thankfull they do this quickly makes sure i have the latest and greatest hardware every other year lol...
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August 17, 2010 3:52:16 PM

Have they confirmed the new 1155 and 1365 WON'T work in the current 1156 and 1366? It's not like they got extra pins that the current mobos can't fit, but rather less pins!
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August 17, 2010 3:57:14 PM

zyzeastHave they confirmed the new 1155 and 1365 WON'T work in the current 1156 and 1366? It's not like they got extra pins that the current mobos can't fit, but rather less pins!


They haven't confirmed anything yet as far as I know, so it will be interesting to see what Intel has to say about the new sockets.
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August 17, 2010 3:59:22 PM

tony singhJust when will v c a similar Roadmap from AMD ??? Its desperately needed.

I feel bad for you because you're poor and can't afford the best hardware
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August 17, 2010 3:59:28 PM

So instead of a $1000 high end CPU, it's actually a $1250 high end CPU & Mobo combo.
Could be worse.
They could bludge you for a new RAM type as well.
(knock on wood)
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August 17, 2010 4:01:34 PM

nukemasterThose(6 cores) from what I see are all on 1366 not 1156(i sure hope that 1155 is a typo)

It's been long rumored that the 1156 platform was dead.
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August 17, 2010 4:07:20 PM

per my rep he stated that sandybridge will not fuction in a 1156 or 1366 motherboard only in the correct motherboards due to diff pin arangment
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August 17, 2010 4:08:54 PM

that would suck...
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August 17, 2010 4:11:34 PM

They removed 1 pin so youd have to upgrade your system, what dicks.
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August 17, 2010 4:13:47 PM

irh_1974So instead of a $1000 high end CPU, it's actually a $1250 high end CPU & Mobo combo.Could be worse.They could bludge you for a new RAM type as well.(knock on wood)


Then again maybe the memory controller will only want DDR3 2300 and up!
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August 17, 2010 4:17:30 PM

nukemasterThose(6 cores) from what I see are all on 1366 not 1156(i sure hope that 1155 is a typo)


LGA 1155 is the new mid end-enthusiast socket for Intel. Its one less pin but AM3 is also a pin or two less. That means backwards compatability is a possibility.
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August 17, 2010 4:19:15 PM

wcooper007well like people always say backwards compatibility isnt always a good thing thats why intel does things the way they do it.. people wanted fast refreshes.. its called tick tock. on the tick you get a refresh on the tock you get a completly new processor and if memory serves we are on the refresh right now so what more can you expect.. i am sorry that AMD cant seem to bring anything new to the market every other year it only takes them what now 5 years.. so ya i can see them being able to make it backwards compatible i am sure intel could do the same thing but they choose not too which in turn speeds up the refresh and the release of new processors. So dont complain i am thankfull they do this quickly makes sure i have the latest and greatest hardware every other year lol...


I think you should buy a MAC, since you love to over pay for crap, I bet you like to buy those 80 Dollar HDMI cables as well cause the quality is so much better ya know.

/sarcasm

people like you make me throw up a little each time you speak. Where did you make up this tick tock BS anyways? Intel has made what 4 different socket times in less then that many years? 775 lasted Pentium 4 through core 2 quad, but since 2008 intel has announced 4 new socket types are you kidding? It went from one socket type for desktops for 4 years to 4 sockets in 2 years.
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August 17, 2010 4:22:54 PM

Asian symbols above a non-existent socket makes me believe that they are 1156 knockoffs. NoRacial.
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August 17, 2010 4:25:36 PM

aevmWhat, no 6-core CPUs at all???

According to a leaked powerpoint with Intel roadmap, their best CPU is still going to be the 980X or possibly a 990X throughout at least Q1 to Q3 next year.
http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?t=326482
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August 17, 2010 4:39:20 PM

Yet another socket and overpriced hardware. Intel, I'm really looking for a reason to switch back off the AMD platform, but you seem to be doing everything in your power to convince me NOT to. Oh well, guess I'll drop in upgrade to Bulldozer on my Crosshair IV. Maybe next generation you'll figure it out.

"The views expressed here are mine and do not reflect the official opinion of my employer or the organization through which the Internet was accessed."
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August 17, 2010 4:41:48 PM

Why is everybody so clueless to this? YES, intel made another socket, 1155, not backwards compatible, not a typo. Anything without a K on the end of it likely wont be able to oc more than 100 MHz or so. The K ones will be normal. 6 core cpus wont be coming on this one, only quads and duals. 6 cores stay on 1366 for a while, and then its socket "2011".
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August 17, 2010 4:44:54 PM

irh_1974So instead of a $1000 high end CPU, it's actually a $1250 high end CPU & Mobo combo.Could be worse.They could bludge you for a new RAM type as well.(knock on wood)


Well, for one, this isn't their high-end platform. This is the bottom feeder platform, like LGA 1156, with all the compromises. They have some pretty good processors in there, but not the top of the line like the $1000 Extreme Edition ones. You'll probably not see a $400 processor. I think they learned their lesson with LGA 1156, where they tried to fly high like an Eagle, and got shot down like a vulture by the market. People weren't as stupid as Intel thought, and rejected it as another high-end platform, but embraced it as a low-end, mid-range.

I don't think it's bad for Intel to introduce a new socket if they throw in SATA 6Gbs, and USB 3.0 onto the chipset. I heard a rumor, hopefully not true, that the chipset still won't support USB 3.0. Especially with the brain-damaged LGA 1155 platform, you really want that on the chipset and not stealing PCIe lanes you already don't have enough of.
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August 17, 2010 4:58:48 PM

The chart has NO organizational hierarchy to it. Who put this chart together? Someone’s little sister?
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August 17, 2010 5:02:41 PM

.... whaaaaaat... another socket? WTF?!?!!
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August 17, 2010 5:08:22 PM

"no 6-core CPUs at all???"
"ANOTHER socket…"
"I am desperately waiting for AMD to put competition in the high end market."
"i'm also a little shocked that all of these come with the graphics core"

All valid concerns. Me either.
Also It would be nice if 1155 be compatible with 1156, but I want 1366 Sandy Bridge.
Where is the 1366 Sandy bridge roadmap, is there any, when?
It becomes a headache to know what to pick if you want to upgrade in the future.
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August 17, 2010 5:15:05 PM

New sockets for SandyBridge were announced months ago, they will be LGA1155 and LGA2011 (they will respectively replace LGA1156 and LGA1366). There is even a very good article on the subject on VR-Zone dated 4 months ago.
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August 17, 2010 5:24:48 PM

With all this socket change intel should glue on the MB the CPU ... since you need to get a new one with each upgrade.
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August 17, 2010 5:25:09 PM

ta152hWell, for one, this isn't their high-end platform. This is the bottom feeder platform, like LGA 1156, with all the compromises. They have some pretty good processors in there, but not the top of the line like the $1000 Extreme Edition ones. You'll probably not see a $400 processor. I think they learned their lesson with LGA 1156, where they tried to fly high like an Eagle, and got shot down like a vulture by the market. People weren't as stupid as Intel thought, and rejected it as another high-end platform, but embraced it as a low-end, mid-range.I don't think it's bad for Intel to introduce a new socket if they throw in SATA 6Gbs, and USB 3.0 onto the chipset. I heard a rumor, hopefully not true, that the chipset still won't support USB 3.0. Especially with the brain-damaged LGA 1155 platform, you really want that on the chipset and not stealing PCIe lanes you already don't have enough of.

Well, isn't that even worse?
Instead of an incremental CPU upgrade for low-to-mid users...
...hitting people for a mobo at the same time is just rude
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August 17, 2010 5:41:50 PM

ta152hWell, for one, this isn't their high-end platform.
They will change the High-end one as well to LGA2011, rumor has they would support PCI-e 3.0 and have 40 lanes. They would probably support SATA 6Gbps, but not USB 3.0.
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August 17, 2010 5:45:26 PM

irh_1974Well, isn't that even worse?Instead of an incremental CPU upgrade for low-to-mid users......hitting people for a mobo at the same time is just rude


I can understand what you're saying, but, at the same time, Intel isn't forcing people to buy Sandy Bridge, and because this is only a mid-range upgrade, it probably doesn't make that much sense anyway.

But, more to the point, you have a lot of complaints about a new socket, but, honestly, none of us have any idea if it's worth it or not. We don't know what compromises Intel would have lived with, if they kept the old one, so we don't know the reasons why they did it. I remember with the Tualatins, you needed a different chipset/motherboard. It made everyone pretty upset, of course. But, they lowered the voltage of GTL+ from 1.5v to 1.25v if I remember correctly, meaning it lowered power use. For the 1% of people that wanted to upgrade their CPU, this wasn't worth it. For the 99% of people who never cared about this, they saved money every day (albeit, not a lot, but when multiplied by the number of people using the CPUs, it's a lot).

So, until we know the benefits, it's not fair to say Intel made a horrible mistake by not allowing the CPUs to work with old motherboards. In any situation, when you are only aware of the cons, and not the pros, it's naturally going to seem bad.
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August 17, 2010 5:46:07 PM

pbrigidoI might be missing something, but what distinguishes the 2600K and the 2500K from just the 2600 and 2500?


K = unlocked multiplier.
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a b å Intel
August 17, 2010 5:46:40 PM

I may upgrade this Spring. My primary is still on LGA775, so a socket upgrade is a foregone conclusion for me anyway.
So, this is maybe one of a dozen pieces of necessary information. Prices? Interfaces? What about Bulldozer; same needed there, and of course benchmarks for both. Current CPUs are fast enough for me, so factors other than pure speed are important. I like the low wattages up there, but want to see what AMD will be offering too.
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August 17, 2010 5:46:50 PM

WOW, the ignorance of some of the comments are overwhelming. I don't think one person on this thread knows our understands what this articles entails.
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Anonymous
August 17, 2010 5:53:16 PM

Bring on AMD Fusion and Bulldozer, q4 2010 is where its at
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