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What do I need to upgrade for next years games?

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June 10, 2011 10:35:09 PM

My PC is not the top of the line gaming rig, however its what I've managed to successfully use over these pass years to play some of the most demanding pc games such as crysis 2 and Black Ops. My pc cannot handle Operation Flashpoint Red River nor can it handle most other games that will release in the next few months. I'm ok with running games on medium settings, its the low settings and choppy performance that gets to me...

I hope to do as little upgrading as possible, since I've already invested far more in my pc then I'd like to.

My specs are as follows.

I intend to upgrade my cpu from an AMD Athlon 64 X2 4200+ @ 2200 MHz to an AMD Athlon 64 X2 5800+ 3.0GHz.

I currently have an nvidia 9500 gt which I don't intend on upgrading just yet.

I've been told to upgrade my motherboard from a KN9 SLI am2 socket to something a bit more powerful but like i've mentioned before I don't want to spend too much, i'm hoping to spend below 250$.


I appreciate your help and suggestions.

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June 10, 2011 10:48:51 PM

My computer won't run any of those games. lol But, you definitely should upgrade your graphics card. That is, if it's not inside the motherboard, otherwise, you can't take it out. I'm not sure what to recommend because I don't know what system you have and what year.
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June 10, 2011 10:54:57 PM

I've had my computer for about 5 years but I have upgraded it with a better soundcard and cooling system. I'm running on XP. My pc came with an Nvidia 7600 GS.
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June 10, 2011 11:25:26 PM

your gonna need to spend at least $500 to get it up to scratch. a dual core, especailly a slow 1 like the amd 5800 x2 just wont cut it. your gonna need a quad.
antel 2400 and an h61 motherboard with 4 gigs of ddr3 1333 will set you back exactly $250 and should be your first purchase.
upgrading the gfx first will lead to an unbalanced system that will give worse performance than you currently have which is pretty much none already.
you always start with a new cpu if your upgrading from particularly old kit.
you will also want to check out a decent psu minimum 500watts theres another 70 and the rest of your 500 can go on a new gfx card.
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June 11, 2011 1:00:55 AM

I currently have a 500 watt power supply. But I shall see about getting a new motherboard. I'm fine with my 9500 gt for now.
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June 11, 2011 2:04:04 AM

What's the model of the PSU? That matters a lot more than the watt number it claims.
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June 11, 2011 2:41:34 AM

not to sound mean but the 9500 is not a good graphics card. Hexit will not stray you wrong. that cpu has a low clock speed and needs to be replaced and so will most of your components.
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June 11, 2011 7:57:11 AM

I know I need to replace plenty but the 9500 is alright for me for now is all, I'm content on playing my games on medium settings for the time being.


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June 11, 2011 12:01:54 PM

You'll do good with that upgrade just stay at 1280 x 1024 resolution. PC gaming is very expensive than console.
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June 11, 2011 12:39:02 PM

venjhammet said:
You'll do good with that upgrade just stay at 1280 x 1024 resolution. PC gaming is very expensive than console.



This is simply not true, please let this myth die already. In fact its console gaming that is very expensive compared to PC. If you are a regular reader of Tomshardware.com then you would note they have put up 500usd rigs that run most games out in 1080p, consoles only run 5% of their games in 1080p.

The cost of games on console itself is enough to make console more expensive then PC, Every game bought on console costs 10-20usd more then PC version, in the end if you intend to be playing lots of games then PC is obvious cost effective solution if you only intend to play 2-3 games a year then console is cheaper, however note console still wont do alot of the stuff that the PC can do IE(Work, web browsing, video editing etc).

To the OP, i would strongly recommend a GPU upgrade above anything else if you intend to be gaming on that rig. In todays day and age its the GPU that does most of the work when it comes to games. You can get a GTX 460 for about 150usd, and then overclock that rig to get decent performance.
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June 11, 2011 3:31:27 PM

lol the amd athlon 64 x2 didnt oc at all well. most people were lucky to get 200mhz out of them. when they dropped down to 65 nm you could maybe get 500-700 mz for a slower sample but the fastest 3.0ghz wouldn't even do 200mhz oc's as for attaching a gtx460 you will bottleneck it so badly it wouldn't be worth the money. the best card an amd 64 x2 can handle is a 98gt and that is only if you get a 3.0ghz 1 the 4600x2 bottlenecks it by about 10 percent.
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June 11, 2011 6:04:09 PM

HEXiT said:
lol the amd athlon 64 x2 didnt oc at all well. most people were lucky to get 200mhz out of them. when they dropped down to 65 nm you could maybe get 500-700 mz for a slower sample but the fastest 3.0ghz wouldn't even do 200mhz oc's as for attaching a gtx460 you will bottleneck it so badly it wouldn't be worth the money. the best card an amd 64 x2 can handle is a 98gt and that is only if you get a 3.0ghz 1 the 4600x2 bottlenecks it by about 10 percent.



He said its a athlon system @2200 MHZ that seems awfully low there might be potential of 400-500mhz there with a better cooler anyways. He wont be seeing much of a performance improvement on the games with the GPU he has anyways regardless of whatever CPU he gets. I said GTX 460 because its a good bang for the buck and in the future if he does decide to go for a full system upgrade like a 400-500usd rig, the 460GTX will come in handy at that time too, while allowing him to play any of his current games at much better framerates and AA.

Bottom line even with a CPU upgrade the 9500gt isnt really suited for games (its got a GPU thats actually weaker then ancient consoles out today).
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June 11, 2011 6:35:23 PM

your rite in that its a good bang for buck but it wont actualy give any performance increase because it will bottleneck so badly. its likely to give worse performance and thats if it even works on his motherboard.
not all pci-e x16 slots are backwards compatible if he has a via or nforce chipset with a 1.0a pci-e then its likely the card just wont work at all.

i really do know from experiance that the cpu wont handle it. i had a 4600+x2 and it wouldnt handle an 88gt without bottlenecking by neatly 10 percent. not you apply that logic to a very similar but slower cpu with a card thats x4 more powerfull and you can see that the card will indeed cripple his cpu by as much as 70 percent or more.
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June 14, 2011 3:13:26 AM

^ +1 i agree, motherboard/cpu upgrade to newer platform first.
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June 14, 2011 3:20:38 AM

I am waiting to build a new pc as well..bu ti am waiting for the new ati 7x00 cards to be out, and till April/May 2012 for the Ivy brige to be out.... ;) ...long wait...but that build should last me a good 4 years....I hope....or until cheaper dx12 gpu's will be out ;) 
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June 18, 2011 10:46:37 AM

I will upgrade my video card in time.My problem now is finding a good cpu to fit my processor, I have an am2 socket and most seem to be dual core or lower. Any suggestions....I guess I have no other options except to upgrade my board.
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June 20, 2011 8:33:26 PM

So I think I've decided to get an ASUS M4A785-M Motherboard and AMD Phenom II X4 920 Quad Core OEM Processor Bundle. Obviously its a step up from my rig but is this good choice?
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June 22, 2011 12:03:15 AM

Ah nice combo, I guess I will just have to wait a bit longer to scrape up the cash. I have never replaced a motherboard, does the type of case I have matter?
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June 23, 2011 4:13:04 AM

Q6600 are cheap.. and I've been thrilled with the performance I've had for almost 2 years now (?), I regularly overclock to 3.0 with nearly no issues coming up unless I leave the beast on for many, many days. Most my restarts come from game crashes that seem to be non fp related I believe.

Lately I've been running W2, Crysis2, and FONV mostly topped out save the AA
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June 23, 2011 4:39:29 AM

Oh and the case shouldn't matter as long as it's not proprietary (dude your getting a dell, ..or some such), that is if all your considering changing is your main and cpu. The power supply of course is another issue. Most sites you can order from usually have tools now days to help you figure out what kind you might need.. enjoy!
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June 24, 2011 4:11:35 AM

^ I second that , I have a Q6600 and it is awesome...no games (besides shogun 2) that i cant run maxed out...
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June 24, 2011 5:05:09 PM

why invest in 2 gen old technology?
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June 25, 2011 8:19:38 PM

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cbrunnem


why invest in 2 gen old technology


Price is always an issue, if it isn't your in denial or headed for divorce my friend :lol: 


Besides if you can run a Q6600 you can usually upgrade later to a Q9650 which easily competes with the mid upper i7's ^^, just add graphic card!
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