With a thunderbird 900mhz and an ASUS board It is 290 bucks,
the the tiger deal for the shuttle board and 900 mhz ( likely a duron) is 159 bucks ) is the most
expensive product(asus and thundbird) likely to give less headaches ? (aka problems, bugs, and last longer?)
What I am asking is is the 290 bucks for 2 products twice as good as the tiger bundle ?
I like products that are rock solid and last, but I do not like to waste money either on brand names.
on domestic UPS Ground orders $199.00 and over
In Stock: yes
Supports Socket A-based AMD Thunderbird/Duron processors
Support for a 200MHz Front Side Bus
Shuttle AI61 Motherboard with Athlon 900 CPU & Creative Labs 128-Voice PCI Sound Card (WAS $190) Price:
If a harddrive is udma 100 and the motherboard is udma 66 is the harddrive downward compatible ?
or vice versa?
Is any agp slot compatible with AGP 1x /2x and 4x video cards :
or vice versa?
Is all SDRam 168 ping?
If the motherboard is the ram SDRAM pc133 compatible 168 pin ,
will it run pc 100 ram sticks? or vs versa
Any Usb ports with motherboard? if not do I buy usb ports with motherboard?
Will a 900 mhz chip and motherboard work with 200 volt powersupply ?
I got the 128 sdram strip (compatible with pc 66/100/133 pny.com brand )
and tried it in my old computer and it did not work. ( I put the power on
do you think it damaged the sdram 128 meg strip ? )
What are the best brands of motherboards ?
What do I need to know before installing a mother board and chip?
For specific motherboards do I need to upgrade ram by 2 strips per upgrade ?
What else do I need to know for it to be compatible with
Also my computer ( 2nd one ) has maxtor udma 66 ata harddrive can I install a western digital 40 gig with udma
100 ata EIDE and will both harddrives peacefully coexist?
What if the maxtor is ide and not eide ?
I just have to change the harddrive jumper on the old one so the new hd is the master ( which is the one which is booted right ? )
I would recommend the giga-byte ga-7dx with creative sound, www.newegg.com $137. They also have reasonable prices on cpus. I would consider upgrading to an ibm 40 gig, but a western digital is a good solid drive. And ya ata100 drives are backward compatible with 66 standards. Don't monkey around with cheap memory, get your ddr from crucial, its affordable and of high quality. Make sure your power supply is approved by www.amd.com for you processor. As far as building your pc, check out tom's how to article on building your own system. It's rather clear.
-- Chaos is the better order.
May 23, 2001 3:49:55 PM
What I am asking is, for the asus and thunderbird,
is it worth 290 in comparison to the shuttle and 900 mhz duron for 159 bucks ?
For what reasons is this product (below) better then
the other 2 products?
<b>A7V ATHLON MTHRBRD KT133 CHIPSET ATX
ATHLON THUNDERBIRD 900MHZ 384K CACHE
You might want to check their price. They even more expensive than my local store's.
BTW, I'd get A7V133 which is not much more expensive than A7V but can run FSB at 133. At Newegg it's only $117 with 10 bucks of SH. http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduct.asp?submit=manufa...
<b>If a harddrive is udma 100 and the motherboard is udma 66 is the harddrive downward compatible ?
or vice versa?</b>
<b>If the motherboard is the ram SDRAM pc133 compatible 168 pin , will it run pc 100 ram sticks? or vs versa</b>
<b>Any Usb ports with motherboard? if not do I buy usb ports with motherboard?</b>
All of them have Built-in USB ports on mobo.
<b>Will a 900 mhz chip and motherboard work with 200 volt powersupply ?</b>
IMO, It wouldn't. Get at least 300W PS.
<b>For specific motherboards do I need to upgrade ram by 2 strips per upgrade ?</b>
No, it wouldn't be neccessary. 1 stick of DIMM can work alone.
<b>Also my computer ( 2nd one ) has maxtor udma 66 ata harddrive can I install a western digital 40 gig with udma
100 ata EIDE and will both harddrives peacefully coexist?</b>
Yes, but the WD will work at ATA66 instead of ATA100 if you put both of them on same cable.
<b>I just have to change the harddrive jumper on the old one so the new hd is the master ( which is the one which is booted right ?</b>
Ok feedback on my 2 choices , each a set of cpu, motherboard
,cpu fan and powersupply.
Will each set (Is group A compatible with group A) and
same with Group B? and is each set that I choose interchangable meaning Group A motherboard a7a266, and Group B (duron 900 mhz chip ) compatible with each other?
PS: which 400 watt powersupply would be good for either one?
CPU Support Socket A AMD® AthlonTM/DuronTM Processors
Supported CPU Speed (MHz) up to 1.2GHz
Number of Processor (s) 1 (Not included)
Chipset ALiMAGiK 1 chipset composed of M1647 North Bridge and M1535D+ South Bridge
Front Side Bus (MHz) 100/133MHz
System Bios Not Specified
AGP Support AGP Pro / AGP 4X / AGP 2X
Number of Memory Slots 3 PC133 SDRAM slots and 2 DDR SDRAM slots
Type of Memory Supported PC133/100 SDRAM\ PC1600/PC2100 DDR SDRAM
Maximum RAM PC133 3GB \2GB DDR
On-Board Multi I/O Six USB Ports, two serial ports, one parallel port
On-Board EIDE Dual-channel bus master IDE interfaces with Ultra DMA33/66/100, PIO modes 3/4
Keyboard Connector PS/2
Mouse Connector PS/2
Number of AGP Slots 1
Number of PCI Slots (32 Bit) 5
Number of ISA Slots (16 Bit) 0
Hardware Monitoring ASUS PC Health Monitoring and ASUS PC Probe software
Audio Incorporated No
Video Incorporated No
SCSI On-Board No
SCSI Connectors No
Form Factor ATX
Dimensions Not Specified
Additional Information N/A
powersupply 50 bucks approx
347 bucks about 22 % more bucks for group A.
May 24, 2001 6:47:00 PM
How can I find out that one of my computers has an oem soundcard and oem videocard that can only work with the
old motherboard/cpu ( which does not work on my newer computer)?
I have heard that some vendors use whitebox wholesale
versions of some products, that have the same name as the
retail but, the product is not as good, because it
is slightly different.
Example is a videocard may be named on the computer for sale
TNT 2 32 Ram , but the videocard may be slower then the
retail version of the videocard and may only work with the old motherboard that came with the computer when it was new. And if one puts in a new videocard, the videocard may not work with it or the system may not boot without the same videocard!
Also I heard it is the same with soundcards.
Well how can I find out? will the serial numbers have an OEM
near them or on them? If no OEM is on the label on the hardware product that means I am safe from OEM versions?