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November 7, 2004 3:36:57 PM

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http://cbs2chicago.com/special/local_story_309163624.ht...

Sprint is the worst on a survey list in Chicago. Verzion at the top just
behind local (regional) US Cellular.
Anonymous
November 7, 2004 3:36:58 PM

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Steve wrote:
> http://cbs2chicago.com/special/local_story_309163624.ht...
>
> Sprint is the worst on a survey list in Chicago. Verzion at the top just
> behind local (regional) US Cellular.

Sprint's had problems in Chicago in the past. I'm sorry to see they are
apparently still having problems. :( 

It was amusing, however, watching Sprint, Verizon, and some other carriers who
had problems reported reply "but that's not what *our* test results show!"

(Links to carrier replies are at the bottom of the web page.)




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Anonymous
November 7, 2004 3:36:58 PM

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I honestly don't think Sprint is having problems in Chicago. These
type of tests are often flawed and unreliable and favor the 800 Mhz
carriers. They've invested so much money in Chicago over the past 4
years that I don't believe they're really that bad.
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November 8, 2004 3:32:33 AM

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In article <cmlv63$7i8$1@ratbert.glorb.com>,
Steve Sobol <sjsobol@JustThe.net> wrote:

> Steve wrote:
> > http://cbs2chicago.com/special/local_story_309163624.ht...
> >
> > Sprint is the worst on a survey list in Chicago. Verzion at the top just
> > behind local (regional) US Cellular.
>
> Sprint's had problems in Chicago in the past. I'm sorry to see they are
> apparently still having problems. :( 

Actually, I was just in Chicago a week ago. I had been there about a
year ago and noticed how much better Sprint worked than it had in
earlier trips in 2000 and 2001, which had suggested to me that by 2003
Sprint had finally cleaned up its act in Chicago. Unfortunately, last
week, when I was there, I noticed a lot of failures to connect despite
good signal strength, which made me wonder if Sprint was deteriorating
there again.

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Anonymous
November 8, 2004 4:23:42 AM

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"Orac" <orac@mac.com> wrote in message
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> In article <cmlv63$7i8$1@ratbert.glorb.com>,
> Steve Sobol <sjsobol@JustThe.net> wrote:
>
> > Steve wrote:
> > > http://cbs2chicago.com/special/local_story_309163624.ht...
> > >
> > > Sprint is the worst on a survey list in Chicago. Verzion at the top
just
> > > behind local (regional) US Cellular.
> >
> > Sprint's had problems in Chicago in the past. I'm sorry to see they are
> > apparently still having problems. :( 
>
> Actually, I was just in Chicago a week ago. I had been there about a
> year ago and noticed how much better Sprint worked than it had in
> earlier trips in 2000 and 2001, which had suggested to me that by 2003
> Sprint had finally cleaned up its act in Chicago. Unfortunately, last
> week, when I was there, I noticed a lot of failures to connect despite
> good signal strength, which made me wonder if Sprint was deteriorating
> there again.

I was in Chicago in August. While I did experience the occasional dead spot
it was nowhere near as bad as it was a couple years ago. If Sprint is the
worst in Chicago then it must be a very well covered city because I thought
the coverage was acceptable.

-F
Anonymous
November 9, 2004 9:24:30 PM

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"Steve" <stteve@NOSPAMyahoo..com> wrote in message
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> http://cbs2chicago.com/special/local_story_309163624.ht...
>
> Sprint is the worst on a survey list in Chicago. Verzion at the top just
> behind local (regional) US Cellular.
>
Weird, I have always had good luck with my coverage in and around the
Chicago area with my Sprint PCS phone, yet my friend who has Verizon has
horrible luck with coverage in and around same area. "Can you hear me now?
NO! Can you hear me now? NO! Can you hear me now? NO!" :D 

Suzi
Anonymous
November 10, 2004 12:48:27 AM

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Based on what I see on the web, I don't understand what US Cellular is
selling in Chicago. On Andrew Shepherd's maps, Cingular is Chicago's
cellular A-side carrier and Verizon is the cellular B-side carrier.
Sprint PCS and T-Mobile are on PCS. I don't know about ATTWS - on PCS
as well?

But US Cellular is the A-side CDMA carrier in neighboring Wisconsin and
some parts of northwest Illinois. Do they have PCS spectrum in Chicago?
Or are they roaming on Verizon but selling under their own name (and
so have coverage equal to Verizon)?

Steve wrote:

> http://cbs2chicago.com/special/local_story_309163624.ht...
>
> Sprint is the worst on a survey list in Chicago. Verzion at the top just
> behind local (regional) US Cellular.

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Anonymous
November 10, 2004 3:46:59 AM

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I know that PrimeCo originally had PCS service in Chicago but later
(around 2000) sold it off to somebody and it didn't become Verizon in
this case I don't think.
Anonymous
November 10, 2004 2:56:12 PM

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How does her phone work in your house?
November 11, 2004 12:52:14 AM

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IIRC, Verizon acquired PrimeCo, and since Verizon acquired the Ameritech
network in Chigcao as
part of the Ameritech/SBC merger they had to divest Chicago and a few other
markets,
which US Cellular picked up.

<larryt510@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>I know that PrimeCo originally had PCS service in Chicago but later
> (around 2000) sold it off to somebody and it didn't become Verizon in
> this case I don't think.
>
Anonymous
November 26, 2004 8:21:45 AM

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On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 21:52:14 -0600, "Randy" <@> chose to add this to the
great equation of life, the universe, and everything:

><larryt510@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:1100076419.914084.23560@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
>>I know that PrimeCo originally had PCS service in Chicago but later
>> (around 2000) sold it off to somebody and it didn't become Verizon in
>> this case I don't think.
>
>IIRC, Verizon acquired PrimeCo, and since Verizon acquired the Ameritech
>network in Chigcao as
>part of the Ameritech/SBC merger they had to divest Chicago and a few other
>markets,
>which US Cellular picked up.

Those two facts are both true (more or less), but totally separate from
each other. SBC kept its Cellular One A-side franchise and divested the
Ameritech B-side franchise to GTE. A few months later, GTE was included in
the Verizon merger. At some point, (I don't know if it was the same merger
or later) PrimeCo was folded into VZW and its Chicago holdings divested. I
believe there was actually no service for quite a while (or maybe it
continued under the PrimeCo name with little or no promotion) on that chunk
of spectrum, until USCC took it over and started service in what is, after
all, its hometown.

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December 5, 2004 3:22:27 PM

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theOne wrote:

> By the way, that whole 14 days trial doesn't sit well with me. What
> common consumer whats to go through the arduous process of selling there
> phones on e-bay (is there another option?) and then going through the
> phone number process again?

The whole point of the trial with *any* carrier is that you can return the
phone within X days (X is usually either two weeks or thirty days) *without*
having to sell the phone. You just return it.

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December 8, 2004 4:45:55 AM

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Steve Sobol wrote:
> theOne wrote:
>
>> By the way, that whole 14 days trial doesn't sit well with me. What
>> common consumer whats to go through the arduous process of selling
>> there phones on e-bay (is there another option?) and then going
>> through the phone number process again?
>
>
> The whole point of the trial with *any* carrier is that you can return
> the phone within X days (X is usually either two weeks or thirty days)
> *without* having to sell the phone. You just return it.
>
Ohh?! I didn't know that Steve. So even if I bought the phone from Best
Buy? I can just return the phone there and get a full refund. Plus
activiation fee?


Thanks for filling me in. Not very helpful at this point but maybe with
my new carrier :) 


theOne
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December 8, 2004 4:45:56 AM

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theOne wrote:

> Ohh?! I didn't know that Steve. So even if I bought the phone from Best
> Buy? I can just return the phone there and get a full refund. Plus
> activiation fee?

Details depend on carrier. With Sprint, I know for sure that the $36 activation
fee is not refundable. With Verizon, I'm not sure. With any carrier, if you
return the phone within the guarantee period you will still have to pay for
minutes you actually use. Check with the carrier you're interested in buying
the phone from, for details of their guarantee.

This information applies to carrier-owned retail stores. With third parties,
you may want to check with the store you're buying from. I think Best Buy (in
particular) actually has a more liberal return policy than the carriers do.

But the advice "check with the retailer first" applies no matter where you want
to buy the phone and/or service from.

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December 8, 2004 4:45:57 AM

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Steve Sobol wrote:
> theOne wrote:
>
>> Ohh?! I didn't know that Steve. So even if I bought the phone from
>> Best Buy? I can just return the phone there and get a full refund.
>> Plus activiation fee?
>
>
> Details depend on carrier. With Sprint, I know for sure that the $36
> activation fee is not refundable. With Verizon, I'm not sure. With any
> carrier, if you return the phone within the guarantee period you will
> still have to pay for minutes you actually use. Check with the carrier
> you're interested in buying the phone from, for details of their guarantee.

Of course, if you've ported your number over and want to port again to another
carrier, you may be screwed because if you return the phone and cancel the
service, you lose the phone number...

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