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September 11, 2010 1:14:56 AM

0.19 watt hour rechargeable battery - what miniaturization!
September 11, 2010 1:35:08 AM

So where is the gold plate that adds 90 dollars value to the Nano?

Seriously, they stripped out so many features from the previous one, its just a Shuffle Plus now.
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September 11, 2010 1:49:00 AM

If the new Ipod touch had the Iphone 4's camera, it'd be worth the price they are asking. But seeing that it has the same quality camera my netbook is running, it totally disqualifies me from looking at it.
September 11, 2010 1:51:07 AM

Hey! Someone at Foxconn worked hard to put that thing together! Have some respect will ya?
September 11, 2010 2:00:46 AM

tsnorquistIf the new Ipod touch had the Iphone 4's camera, it'd be worth the price they are asking. But seeing that it has the same quality camera my netbook is running, it totally disqualifies me from looking at it.


Right..... so it has a way better screen than iPod touch 3G, faster CPU/GPU, 256MB RAM, Built in mic, front and rear camera, Is thinner, lighter and has a better battery life than the iPod 3G and it's the same price as the 3G was.... and somehow this is not worth....?

Are you smoking crack? .. or you just like talking trash about any Apple article....
September 11, 2010 2:11:03 AM

Hmmmm iThumb, to small even for my watch maker hands.
September 11, 2010 2:11:36 AM

Toshiba Apples?
September 11, 2010 2:12:38 AM

smekerRight..... so it has a way better screen than iPod touch 3G, faster CPU/GPU, 256MB RAM, Built in mic, front and rear camera, Is thinner, lighter and has a better battery life than the iPod 3G and it's the same price as the 3G was.... and somehow this is not worth....? Are you smoking crack? .. or you just like talking trash about any Apple article....


Yeah I'm not seeing whats so special about it. There are far better products on the market, a good example is that new Archos 43. It has full flash, a bigger screen, expandable memory (gasp!), plenty of music and video codecs, doesn't require iTunes, has a nicer camera, HDMI out, USB host, Blue Tooth tethering, and all at a lower price. What does the iPod have? Some screen resolution gimmick and video chat, wow...
September 11, 2010 2:19:49 AM

AMW1011Yeah I'm not seeing whats so special about it. There are far better products on the market, a good example is that new Archos 43. It has full flash, a bigger screen, expandable memory (gasp!), plenty of music and video codecs, doesn't require iTunes, has a nicer camera, HDMI out, USB host, Blue Tooth tethering, and all at a lower price. What does the iPod have? Some screen resolution gimmick and video chat, wow...


Well for one the Ipod touch does not feel like a brick in your pocket, and the Archos does.

Than it has a better screen, battery life, way more apps, and VLC just submitted their player to the Apps store so if that gets approved you'll be able to play moves from different codecs.
Did I also mention that the GUI is way smoother on the iPod touch than on the Archos
September 11, 2010 2:21:41 AM

tipooSo where is the gold plate that adds 90 dollars value to the Nano? Seriously, they stripped out so many features from the previous one, its just a Shuffle Plus now.

They obviously want users to buy the new iPod Touch.

iPod touch = app store = $$$ for apple
September 11, 2010 2:29:31 AM

jgv115They obviously want users to buy the new iPod Touch.iPod touch = app store = $$$ for apple


You are probably right...
September 11, 2010 3:34:39 AM

wonder if apple has patented iWatch yet?
September 11, 2010 3:53:57 AM

... built with care...
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September 11, 2010 4:45:11 AM

Apple products come with a level of refinement that borders on annoying. They are expensive, because an IPod isn't an IMusicplayer, its some sort of convergence device. Functionally, microsofts zune is just as capable and just as refined but lacks the appstore/any kind of apps whatsoever.

Archos? no. seriously, are you talking about how cool it looks in a magazine add or do you actually have one? Here is the difference, and it is one of the things that matters most. IPods become items that are put in pockets as part of a morning routine. An Archos player is something that you decide to take with you.

I really do hate iTunes, there is some undefinable thing about it that I can hardly stand. That said, I can do a lot from the appstore right on my iPad and rarely have to touch full iTunes.

Android phone (droid1, chevy rom), iPad, iPod nano, Zune v1, Windows7, ubuntu linux. im no apple fanboy, but there is no denying the polish of apples products vs their competition.
September 11, 2010 5:08:04 AM

got my new ipod touch the day they were released ;) 
September 11, 2010 5:14:58 AM

Hey if the Ipod is only half made, you know what happened to the Foxxcon employee.
September 11, 2010 5:16:32 AM

LOOK MA!! over priced garbage!
September 11, 2010 5:39:46 AM

driod does everything this does and more.
September 11, 2010 6:02:40 AM

Guy 1: Hey, how much did you pay for that mac?
Guy 2: $1500
Guy 1: So it must have a nVidia 8800 and like 4GB of RAM right?
GUy 2: No, onboard graphics and 1GB of RAM
Guy 1: So why was it so much?
Guy 2: The keyboard is nice

... this also applies to these ipods...
September 11, 2010 7:01:40 AM

apple will be the downfall of civilization
September 11, 2010 7:05:40 AM

The Nano is the same size as the Shuffle. I'd probably lose both.
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September 11, 2010 9:45:41 AM

NOT an apple lover by any means, but apple products are beginning to get closer in price. I didn't think I would ever buy anything apple, but I am giving the touch a good look. It really looks like a pretty good value for the money.
September 11, 2010 10:40:15 AM

rip it apart!
Anonymous
September 11, 2010 10:55:57 AM

I think we all know Apple makes some pretty nice profit margins. Thanks to its wonderful marketing and brainwashed loyal Apple fans. As long as the products work flawlessly I think that's fine. But lately their have been some real flaws in Apple's core. I think Apple's quality in a finished product has diminished.
September 11, 2010 12:27:34 PM

jescott418I think we all know Apple makes some pretty nice profit margins. Thanks to its wonderful marketing and brainwashed loyal Apple fans. As long as the products work flawlessly I think that's fine. But lately their have been some real flaws in Apple's core. I think Apple's quality in a finished product has diminished.


Keep dreaming...

What a numbnut...

It's really funny looking at you Apple haters... Your comments make as much sense as a two year old kid on a science fare... I guess it's in fashion talking trash about apple as their shares keep going up and their products sell as hot cakes.
But it has to be the Apple's "Brain Washing" technique.
It's a conspiracy... the world against the Apple haters.

I really wish that CIA had this brainwashing technique, so it can win the war against terrorism. NO need of bombing Afghanistan and Iraq, just send Steve Jobs over there and they'll love all AMericans
September 11, 2010 12:40:52 PM

who owns apple now a days adam and eve?
September 11, 2010 12:56:30 PM

As I was looking through the pics, I couldn't help but here "bow chika wow wow" in the back of my head.
September 11, 2010 1:05:56 PM

jgv115They obviously want users to buy the new iPod Touch.iPod touch = app store = $$$ for apple



Obviously, but I think a reduction in features for the Nano should have come with a reduction in price.
September 11, 2010 1:17:33 PM

Good luck with getting those batteries replaced, those batteries which have a mean life expectancy of no more than 3 years.
September 11, 2010 1:29:51 PM

stifleGood luck with getting those batteries replaced, those batteries which have a mean life expectancy of no more than 3 years.

It's funny but a litle bit more than 3 years ago there weren't any iPhones.
NOw if my iPod touch lasts 3 years I'll be more than happy... Shoot... I change my Graphics card every other year or so ... and that is more expensive than the freaking iPod touch.
September 11, 2010 2:02:46 PM

smekerIt's funny but a litle bit more than 3 years ago there weren't any iPhones. NOw if my iPod touch lasts 3 years I'll be more than happy... Shoot... I change my Graphics card every other year or so ... and that is more expensive than the freaking iPod touch.

The difference there is that the video card is obsolete if you continue to buy new games. It simply doesn't perform to the standard required for smooth gaming. Music hasn't changed. An iPod today doesn't really play it any better than an iPod of 3 years ago. People shouldn't have to buy something new for the sake of buying something new. But, sadly, that is the result of planned obsolescence, and it permeates every market and every industry.

I'd be kicking up a storm if I had to upgrade my phone every 5 years.
September 11, 2010 3:32:43 PM

So, I am curious to know which chip is the memory chip? I remember when they used those mini hard drives or flash memory. Now it is all flash memory, and I would like to know how small a 32GB chip is these days. The battery is clearly the biggest component!
September 11, 2010 4:01:10 PM

stifleGood luck with getting those batteries replaced, those batteries which have a mean life expectancy of no more than 3 years.


You can buy barnd new, small lithium polymer batteries on ebay for next to nothing. Then it's just a simple matter of taking it apart, cutting the two wires leading to the worn out battery, and sticking them to the wires coming out of the new battery. It's a simple procedure anyone can do if they have gentle fingers and a bit of patience :) 
September 11, 2010 4:03:33 PM

They still use wires!
September 11, 2010 4:03:39 PM

WR0.19 watt hour rechargeable battery - what miniaturization!


True. Lithium polymer batteries are pretty impressive. But they weren't invented for Apple products (or by Apple for that matter). My radio controlled indoor helicopter has a 70mAh lipo battery that's about half the size of the one in the iPod Nano for example.
September 11, 2010 4:10:23 PM

smekerKeep dreaming...What a numbnut... It's really funny looking at you Apple haters... Your comments make as much sense as a two year old kid on a science fare... I guess it's in fashion talking trash about apple as their shares keep going up and their products sell as hot cakes.But it has to be the Apple's "Brain Washing" technique.It's a conspiracy... the world against the Apple haters.I really wish that CIA had this brainwashing technique, so it can win the war against terrorism. NO need of bombing Afghanistan and Iraq, just send Steve Jobs over there and they'll love all AMericans


That's not the point. The majority of people buy Apple products JUST because they're apple products. If they wanted the best bang-for-buck, they'd have to buy something else. It's the association with the company people are looking for.

I agree with randomizer, I don't see the point in buying a new music player/phone/etc. every year just to follow Apple's release schedule. As he said, it's not like a new iPod will play music any better than last year's iPod.
September 11, 2010 5:28:31 PM

iam2thecrowewonder if apple has patented iWatch yet?


Don't forget the iStamp, its an iPod just as large as a postal stamp. Enjoying the best of the 80s one click at a time. :s
September 11, 2010 5:29:21 PM

kikireekiThey still use wires!

no....

Don't you know apple products run on "Magic" energy?

The wires are their for purely aesthetic reasons.
September 11, 2010 9:09:08 PM

smekerWell for one the Ipod touch does not feel like a brick in your pocket, and the Archos does.Than it has a better screen, battery life, way more apps, and VLC just submitted their player to the Apps store so if that gets approved you'll be able to play moves from different codecs.Did I also mention that the GUI is way smoother on the iPod touch than on the Archos


I give Apple credit for the iTouch UI. I have a Samsung Moment for a smartphone now, and coming from an iPod touch it is sometimes hard to deal with. The scrolling and touch features on the iTouch are soooo smooth comparatively, however I appreciate the flexibility of Android enough to keep my phone and not even think about an iPhone.
September 11, 2010 10:45:50 PM

AMW1011Yeah I'm not seeing whats so special about it. There are far better products on the market, a good example is that new Archos 43. It has full flash, a bigger screen, expandable memory (gasp!), plenty of music and video codecs, doesn't require iTunes, has a nicer camera, HDMI out, USB host, Blue Tooth tethering, and all at a lower price. What does the iPod have? Some screen resolution gimmick and video chat, wow...

Release date on the Archos 43?
September 11, 2010 11:17:13 PM

i dont even want to "touch" a apple. no pun intended
September 12, 2010 12:03:18 AM

I'll tell you something right now. I have had a Ipod Touch Gen 1 for 4 years now. I have had no problems with it. The battery still holds a really good charge. If the new Ipod touch works a good as my Gen 1. I would buy it for sure. But I want the Iphone 4. I have been really impressed with my Ipod Touch. And this is from a user perspective.
September 12, 2010 6:18:10 AM

thanks tom. I really like this article.
September 12, 2010 11:20:08 AM

Is it just me or does the amplifier in the iPod sound crap! So i compared it with the same file played on my Xonar card, and it's not the file.
September 12, 2010 6:59:09 PM

While Apple products are carefully built (usually), and provide an intuitive environment to do stuff, it is:
- intrusive,
- a very pricey apple that someone already bit into.

Moreover, their customer relation isn't really up to snuff (see iPhone 4):
Customer - there's an antenna problem.
Stevie - no there's not.
C - yes there is! Look, I hold it thus ("death grip"), and I drop a call.
S - you're holding it wrong.
C - I hold it with my hand, to my ear! And I drop calls!
S - reception was bad in your area, all phones will react the same.
C - No, look, when I hold it thus, I lose 3 bars - that other phone doesn't lose more than one!
S - here's a software patch. It was AT&T's fault. Nevermind we gave them exclusivity.
C - the software patch doesn't help if I lose enough to dropa call!
S - you're holding it wrong. The iPhone 4 is perfect.
C - No it's not! Look, if I put a little bit of duct tape on here, it solves it! You designed the antenna wrong!
S - No we didn't. The iPhone 4 is perfect.
Customer report quality tests - the iPhone 4 loses 24 dB of reception quality in a normal left-handed grip - more than any other concurrent phone. We can't recommend that phone, as it doesn't phone well. As a media player maybe.
S (reading Customer Report's QT) - ah damn, the Apple Distortion Field didn't hold in front of Universal Rules and Physics - ok, have a free rubber wrap if you bought your iPhone 4 recently or until September 30th. You already got one? No refunds you're screwed.

That's it for customer relationship.

Now, software quality - you want to upload a song to your iPod. You need iTunes. Which needs Quicktime. Which needs a system-level service running 24/7 with SYSTEM rights. You also need a discovery service that keeps spamming the network to find another computer with itself installed. And while you're at it, use Safari as default browser. And a background process looking for updates. Nevermind that security fixes for iTunes, Quicktime and Safari are usually shipped 3 months after an exploit has been discovered and used.

And people wonder why I hesitated so long before I stopped using my iRiver to use the iPod Mini I was given.

Well, I actually enjoy the iPod Mini a lot - especially since:
- having "Rockbox"ed it, I can now click-n-drag MP3s and AAC files to it - or, Vorbis, FLAC, AC3, WAV, WMA... Without iTunes;
- having replaced the 400mA battery with a 750mA, it finally went past 3 hours autonomy to reach 5 hours;
- having replaced the hard disk drive with a $30 8 Gb CompactFlash card, it's become completely silent, much less prone to suffer damage, and went past 9 hours autonomy (actually, if I listen to it by 4-hours increments and take a break here and there, the battery lasts for 15 hours).

So yes, I own an Apple device; it became bearable when I managed to change the firmware, the storage and the battery. Since the newer ones don't allow that, I won't get them.
September 12, 2010 8:09:36 PM

mitch074So yes, I own an Apple device; it became bearable when I managed to change the firmware, the storage and the battery. Since the newer ones don't allow that, I won't get them.


Wow.. what a rant.... Good for you though...
I got my girlfriend the iPod touch 3G few months back and she loves it, and so do I.
I just ordered the iPod Touch 4 for myself and am suppose to get it this coming Thursday. Wohooooo!
September 13, 2010 10:35:41 AM

Apple products are for those with a lesser intelligence and willing to part with their money.
September 13, 2010 1:20:30 PM

del35Apple products are for those with a lesser intelligence and willing to part with their money.


Keep saying that to yourself.... You might start feeling better.
September 13, 2010 1:28:08 PM

AMW1011Yeah I'm not seeing whats so special about it. There are far better products on the market, a good example is that new Archos 43. It has full flash, a bigger screen, expandable memory (gasp!), plenty of music and video codecs, doesn't require iTunes, has a nicer camera, HDMI out, USB host, Blue Tooth tethering, and all at a lower price. What does the iPod have? Some screen resolution gimmick and video chat, wow...

Ahhh, Archos support. They still have the same yearly firmware updates on their products? I bought an Archos 7 about two years ago, so far it's advertising of, "Enjoy hd video's and streaming on site's like youtube!"
Of course the Archos 7 only uses Flash 9 lite, and there have been no further updates at all.
Archos plans that you have one of their products for about a year before needing to buy a newer model, although you don't have to pay for the extra codecs anymore on their droid models.
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