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September 10, 2010 2:08:43 PM

Still, building your own system or even buying one from dell would be more cost-effective.
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September 10, 2010 2:17:34 PM

Dell? Really? try something like CyberPowerPC.com, unless you like to pay double of the actual price for any part upgrade. even that you already pay for the primary part on the original build price.
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September 10, 2010 2:19:23 PM

what do mac users need with a 6-core high-end system? do itunes and garage band really hog up that much power?
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September 10, 2010 2:20:29 PM

are u an stupid... if you build your own you might be able to make a Hackintosh.... if you buy from Dell you WONT be able to make a Hackintosh....

This article is about hackintosh not price comparisons and you did an apples to oranges comparison. have you ever priced a Mac Pro?
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September 10, 2010 2:25:57 PM

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are u an stupid


Not a very good start to that argument.
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September 10, 2010 2:27:17 PM

The only turn off for me about hackentosh is drivers :s even though I really want to set one up.
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September 10, 2010 2:31:01 PM

Why are they using and older generation video card, why not a 460?
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September 10, 2010 2:38:16 PM

Ya what's up with the GTX 285? Are the GTX 400 series not compatible with macs?
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September 10, 2010 2:38:48 PM

I'm not a big Apple fan, but I think that Tom's Hardware would do well to stop throwing in jabs at Apple in their articles. It's not very professional.

At any rate, I would love to own such a computer, but unfortunately, installing Mac OS X on a non Apple machine breaks the EULA, so I won't be doing it.
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September 10, 2010 2:38:55 PM

meat81Why are they using and older generation video card, why not a 460?


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NVIDIA 285 GTX configured to take advantage of the Adobe Mercury Playback Engine


The 460 does not support AMPE with current Nvidia drivers.
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September 10, 2010 2:39:37 PM

AseTek they feature a sealed liquid loop that is reliable and eliminates customer maintenance. This is the type of elegance Apple enthusiasts treasure.


Meaning even the manufacturer knows Mac users can't do anything without their hand being held :p 
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September 10, 2010 2:48:51 PM

tolhamwhat do mac users need with a 6-core high-end system? do itunes and garage band really hog up that much power?


iTunes, probably... lol

drinfestedI'm not a big Apple fan, but I think that Tom's Hardware would do well to stop throwing in jabs at Apple in their articles. It's not very professional.At any rate, I would love to own such a computer, but unfortunately, installing Mac OS X on a non Apple machine breaks the EULA, so I won't be doing it.


Never!
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September 10, 2010 2:57:04 PM

What? Maby a "apple" that actually might deliver some performance (Thoo outdated gpu in win-PC standards atleast for the rest of the hardware), not the ordinaly one or two generation old crap slapped together in a shiny case!
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September 10, 2010 3:08:19 PM

meat81Why are they using and older generation video card, why not a 460?

Because it is for people who want to run MAC OS, they might not notice or care, and it's cheaper. It also has 12GB of RAM, which is not necessary. This is for bragging rights, and caters to the same crowd that would want a Mac Pro anyways, so why even bother trying to justify this thing? Or it's price?
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September 10, 2010 3:10:17 PM

soccerplayer88The 460 does not support AMPE with current Nvidia drivers.

Well, this is a more reasonable response. I stand by my 12 GB comment though.
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September 10, 2010 3:20:53 PM

tolhamwhat do mac users need with a 6-core high-end system? do itunes and garage band really hog up that much power?

No, but apple computers are about status more than what they do. Most people own an apple because it's a trendy status symbol.
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September 10, 2010 3:26:19 PM

a mac pro with 2x quadcore xeon with AMD 5870 card and no SSD will cost you over $4000.
Apple needs to protect its bottom line so it will go after this company just like it did former mac clone start-ups.

I just built a core i7-930 + GTX250 mac clone for my younger brother for $1250. The equivalent Mac pro was over 4000 if you include an apple display. Such a rip off
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September 10, 2010 3:28:07 PM

cool
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September 10, 2010 3:29:48 PM

Within the last few years especially there have been many skilled and intelligent techies that have began to run OS X. Just because someone uses a mac doesn't mean they are like your 50 year old relative with a first gen iMac and OS 9 (and clueless).

With that said, I don't think any person that has been a "mac person" would go for this. To many painful memories of the old Power Mac G5's leaking.
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September 10, 2010 3:34:23 PM

lol...gtx 285 for the special adobe driver thingy

they could use a 5870 though
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September 10, 2010 3:59:01 PM

way too expensive
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September 10, 2010 4:41:01 PM

They could go for a GeForce GTX 470... Ohhh i forgot it does not support AMPE under MAC
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September 10, 2010 4:46:24 PM

The liberator companies of Apple tax (not referring to open source community), will gladly set you free for half the Apple tax... and will turn the other way around when you accidentally update your system and things break up.

Run a hackintosh for fun i can understand, I do it myself too, but buy a workstation machine and part from $4k just to run a patched version of an OS running the same programs (aka Adobe) as Windows, I just don't get it...
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September 10, 2010 5:19:18 PM

Yeah, but can it run Crysis? Wait....
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September 10, 2010 5:30:15 PM

Wow that thing is packed with a lot, too bad it can only use a GTX285.
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September 10, 2010 5:44:00 PM

tolhamwhat do mac users need with a 6-core high-end system? do itunes and garage band really hog up that much power?

No, those are half pints compared to sample engines and recording software like Vienna Symphonic Library, East West Quantum Leap products, Pro Tools, etc. With sample libraries, one can easily run into a brick wall with loading gigabytes of samples at a time. These high end media programs take up a LOT of processing power.
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September 10, 2010 5:46:47 PM

I think the primary purpose of quo is to show the general public that apple is in fact NOT magical, they are just computers like anything else, and by the way they ass rape you for one. A better move would be for someone to get people to realize the iPhone is just like any other smartphone, and there are no elves in that either.
However, from a consumer standpoint who is smart and likes the Mac OS but doesnt like the price premium for middle of the road hardware, I can see quo being an option. I am pretty happy with my Mac Pro hack, consisting of gb x58-ud3r / GTX 260 Core i7 920 and h50 cooler, clocking the CPU at 4.2 + turbo boost, hyperthreading ON and a raptor HD and 12GB RAM. It routinely runs circles around the REAL Mac Pro over in the graphics design office he simply couldnt live without, and cost 1/3 of the cost of his 3.0ghz Mac Pro with 16 GB RAM and a shitty Seagate 500GB 7200 drive and the laughable GT120 video card it has. But hey, its a shiny silver case with an apple logo on it with 2 front usb ports and firewire, mine is a boring black case with 4 USB ports eSATA, and firewire.
Ok enough jabbing at apple..
(Written on a MacBook Pro (6,1) btw)
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September 10, 2010 6:41:17 PM

trnddwn33Meaning even the manufacturer knows Mac users can't do anything without their hand being held

Yeah, last time Apple let their hand's go they weren’t even able to hold their iphones right.
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September 10, 2010 7:27:49 PM

pitoDell? Really? try something like CyberPowerPC.com, unless you like to pay double of the actual price for any part upgrade. even that you already pay for the primary part on the original build price.


He did say even Dell.
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September 10, 2010 7:30:14 PM

tolhamwhat do mac users need with a 6-core high-end system? do itunes and garage band really hog up that much power?


Because the 12 cores on a regular Mac Pro is too much?
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September 10, 2010 7:40:34 PM

justinjkissare u an stupid... if you build your own you might be able to make a Hackintosh.... if you buy from Dell you WONT be able to make a Hackintosh.... This article is about hackintosh not price comparisons and you did an apples to oranges comparison. have you ever priced a Mac Pro?


pretty sure there are premade version of osx that users have already set up for installs on Dell specific computers, such as one of the most popular uses for hackintosh around, 9" dell laptop.
..that being said... "are u stupid"?
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September 10, 2010 9:02:28 PM

Actually building your own offers still a better value. I put a better desktop together for under $300 that would have cost me $400 in a box. The other advantage is more flexible Bios settings, limitless choices of options and the fact you built it so you know what's inside!
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September 10, 2010 9:15:34 PM

tolhamwhat do mac users need with a 6-core high-end system? do itunes and garage band really hog up that much power?

can itunes even use any multi-threading?
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September 10, 2010 10:48:25 PM

kelemvor4No, but apple computers are about status more than what they do. Most people own an apple because it's a trendy status symbol.

You could make that argument with Macbook laptops and iMac computers (although I would say most iMac buyers want to work on the OSX interface more than impress people with their desktop at home) but not with buyers of Mac Pro towers. As the name implies, these users are typically professionals, mostly in the creative or science fields. It is these users that will take advantage of 6-cores. Almost everything you see and hear on TV, in movie theaters, music videos & albums, etc. was mastered on Macintosh computers, mostly because so much industry standard software and plug-ins are only for Mac.
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September 11, 2010 12:00:29 AM

wildwellYou could make that argument with Macbook laptops and iMac computers (although I would say most iMac buyers want to work on the OSX interface more than impress people with their desktop at home) but not with buyers of Mac Pro towers. As the name implies, these users are typically professionals, mostly in the creative or science fields. It is these users that will take advantage of 6-cores. Almost everything you see and hear on TV, in movie theaters, music videos & albums, etc. was mastered on Macintosh computers, mostly because so much industry standard software and plug-ins are only for Mac.


I assume you must be referring to protools, which now supports windows vista pretty well. Adobe already has shown PC users a lot of love as the adobe suite is massively faster due to GPGPU support on windows. The lack of a video card faster than the old 280 for mac is a major problem as well. I think mac dominance (in that area) is in the process of changing in a big way. Apple clearly has tossed aside the relationship with adobe which WAS in my opinion the best thing apple had going for it.
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September 11, 2010 3:18:30 AM

kelemvor4I assume you must be referring to protools, which now supports windows vista pretty well. Adobe already has shown PC users a lot of love as the adobe suite is massively faster due to GPGPU support on windows. The lack of a video card faster than the old 280 for mac is a major problem as well. I think mac dominance (in that area) is in the process of changing in a big way. Apple clearly has tossed aside the relationship with adobe which WAS in my opinion the best thing apple had going for it.

I WISH that were the case, my friend. I'm a film composer studying at NYU, and I'm a PC guy. They... are Mac. There are still several big programs in the music field that are keeping people from switching over. Logic, Final Cut Pro, and Digital Performer. Those are juggernauts in media production. The problem is that FCP and Logic are both Apple products. Unless Apple decides to commit suicide and provide these products with full support for Windows, then the music production industry will stick with Macs. I understand the hardware comparison, but what has been the industry standard has now become tradition, and it's pretty hard to part with tradition, no matter how much better PC's perform.
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September 11, 2010 7:39:44 AM

tolhamwhat do mac users need with a 6-core high-end system? do itunes and garage band really hog up that much power?

Too much power is never a bad thing.

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September 12, 2010 6:15:21 AM

can we see the inside.
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September 13, 2010 4:22:03 AM

tolhamwhat do mac users need with a 6-core high-end system? do itunes and garage band really hog up that much power?


Video, graphics and sound editing can (and will hog up your ram).
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September 17, 2010 8:52:09 PM

1 - current Mac Pro's are bad price/performance at low and mid levels
2 - Reason they mentioned maintenance free liquid cooled is likely problems with G5 liquid-cooled - also indicates why Apple has been loathe to use 3.6 GHz chip - Intel's chps have been running hot. This is why laptop chips have not improved.
3 - I just bought and am using a refurbed 2009 I7 27 inch iMac - great bargain at 1699. I am currently ripping my X-files collection (not pirated) at over 4x the previous speed and I will be changing Handbrake to 64 bit, which should help further as I went with 32 not knowing that my computer came 64 out of the box.
I wanted a dual quad or single hex, but they were overpriced.
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